Looking for Jack of all trades type toon.


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I am in search of a character that can do anything and everything solo (perhaps not better than something else but I would like to be able to do most of the difficult things solo.

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Solo MoITF
Solo GM/AVs
Solo +4/x8 quickly

Influence/time is not an issue can and will make the most expensive build if possible, I am just trying to find something to cure this damn altitis of mine, would like to finally have a character that is decent at everything that I will like to go and get all of the badges/accolades etc, something to actually call my main.

The closest I have come to really would be my Bots/Traps MM but I have found she is utterly useless in trials, and seems to quite a bit less powerful since incarnates.


 

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The closest I have come to really would be my Bots/Traps MM but I have found she is utterly useless in trials, and seems to quite a bit less powerful since incarnates.
...what?

I think you need to elaborate before anyone is going to be able to help you. Bots/Traps is one of the most versatile builds in the game.


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Versatile yes, but I find with incarnate powers out there MM's are severely severely lacking when it comes to high lvl gameplay, I find I might as well be doing nothing but re summoning and rebuffing bots in trials


 

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These are not jack of all trade goals. These are multiple high end goals. You're asking for high survivablity, high single target dps, and strong AoE damage. Basically, the best of best.


 

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Ok how about this, a character that can do what my MM can but without the necessity of pets due to how poorly their AI can perform and how useless they are in trials, and I never said high ST dmg was that important.


 

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Ok how about this, a character that can do what my MM can but without the necessity of pets due to how poorly their AI can perform and how useless they are in trials, and I never said high ST dmg was that important.
How do you propose to solo GMs/AVs without high ST damage?... just curious.


 

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How do Ill/Rad controllers do it, their ST dmg is pitiful in comparison to most characters, The magic of debuffs


 

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Dark/SD/fire scrapper or a SS/fire/soul brute.
Fire/rad corruptor or controller.


 

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These are not jack of all trade goals. These are multiple high end goals. You're asking for high survivablity, high single target dps, and strong AoE damage. Basically, the best of best.
That's what it sounds like to me too, and the only suggestion in that case is a SS/fire brute.


 

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Yeah, you're not looking for a "jack-of-all trades". What you want is high damage and high survivability, solo. Easy enough to do on any toon. This says nothing of team-play value, buffing, debuffing, controlling, agro management, or other means of mitigation. If you want versatile, you want to be able to do (most of) these things. You want to have different damage types so that if some of your attacks are heavily resisted, you can use a different attack chain. If enemies have debuffs, you need to be able to counter those debuffs.

THAT would be a "Jack of all trades". Otherwise, just take your favorite toon, give them soft-capped defenses and a high-damage ST attack chain and you'll be able to do the things you listed in your post.


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Ill/Cold if you want to focus on mainly hard target. Can do +4/8, but I doubt by anyones definition of quickly

SS/Fire Brute if large spawns are more important for you. Hard targets will take a little more time.

Fire/Traps Corr is almost middle of the road between them imo.


 

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Originally Posted by Taterrex View Post
I am in search of a character that can do anything and everything solo (perhaps not better than something else but I would like to be able to do most of the difficult things solo.

IE.
Solo MoITF
Solo GM/AVs
Solo +4/x8 quickly

Influence/time is not an issue can and will make the most expensive build if possible, I am just trying to find something to cure this damn altitis of mine, would like to finally have a character that is decent at everything that I will like to go and get all of the badges/accolades etc, something to actually call my main.


The closest I have come to really would be my Bots/Traps MM but I have found she is utterly useless in trials, and seems to quite a bit less powerful since incarnates.
Perma-Eclipse Warshade. They are outstanding solo. Expensive to build, but so worth it. Two of my friends have solo'd AVs with it, they cut through +4/x8 like a knife through butter.


 

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GLHF. But boy, am I tired of seeing "OOBER Tankmage wanted, n00bs need not apply, gimmeh eveything NAO!" posts.

Soloing everything in the game is a measuring contest. You win, you're the greatest. Is that good enough?

Apologies for the snark, the sarc, and the general negativity. But seriously, only the Devs have an UBER button, and the ones that I've talked to it say the game is booring with that pressed.

The game is designed so NO ONE CHARACTER CAN DO EVERYTHING WELL. Many, in fact, most characters can do many things well, and between IOs, Incarnates, and more upcoming powers and IOs, this kind of questions borders on the ridiculous.

Pardon my assumption, but with a join date of 2005, is this news to you?


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BTW, the quote is "Jack of all trades, MASTER OF NONE."

What you are asking for is "Master of All Trades." Nope.


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To be fair, characters are capable of 2-3 builds. Though I don't believe any one build can be a master/jack of all trades, I do believe it's plausible that there are certain ATs with certain powerset combos that can design up to three builds that can do each of the things you desire (Solo TFs, solo AV/GMs, and do +4/x8 quickly). My guess would be a VEAT or HEAT as they both can be designed around certain specialties. Nonetheless, you may be able to make a toon with the capability of performing your 3 desired tasks, I don't believe you will be able to do all the different variations of those tasks; you may have a weakness (let's say psi resistance) that certain enemy groups will exploit.

Good luck finding what you want


 

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Tri-form shade. Done.


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....and I never said high ST dmg was that important.
Yes you did..

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I am in search of a character that can...
Solo GM/AVs


 

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How do Ill/Rad controllers do it, their ST dmg is pitiful in comparison to most characters, The magic of debuffs
Partially. It's more the magic of 4 and a half pets, 3 and a half of which can't die, while they hold the aggro for the one that can die.


 

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I am in search of a character that can do anything and everything solo (perhaps not better than something else but I would like to be able to do most of the difficult things solo.

IE.
Solo MoITF
Solo GM/AVs
Solo +4/x8 quickly
Oh that's easy, I'd suggest a ...

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The closest I have come to really would be my Bots/Traps MM but I have found she is utterly useless in trials, and seems to quite a bit less powerful since incarnates.
Welp, never mind.

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ok this is a more positive reply, i know what your looking for, heres a set, ss/shield brute, shield/fire brute with mu set, a kheldian with perma lightform, perma clipse warshade as mentioned, personLLY a bs/shield brute can be quite lethal, add fire app for fireball altho a lil end heavy so take cardiac alpha slot on incarnates and job done, hope this helps.


 

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Solo MoITF
Solo GM/AVs
Solo +4/x8 quickly
You're not going to get all 3 of those things on one character. It's just not going to happen.

2 out of 3 is possible, but not all 3.

MoITF and soloing GMs is possible with an Ill/Rad controller, but you won't be soloing +4/x8 especially fast (you can solo at that difficulty, just not fast)

Some brutes and scrappers can pull off 1 and 3, and can solo AVs, but soloing GMs will be beyond them unless you plan on using Lore pets.

Basically, what you're asking for is a character that fits into 3 different specialized niches, which is next to impossible to pull off, and it's that way by design.


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ss/fire/soul brute.