Help me build a jarhead that's not cliche
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Posted on: 2011-10-20 04:52 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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No derail intended, but why is that?|
Originally Posted by PSLAnimal
Any Marine would object to your use of the term "Soldier."
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Also, I have rad Troller and used the empty jarhead option to say that he is something like a nuclear reactor "core" type. I havent figured out the full bio yet.
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"Soldier," in military parlance, refers to someone in the Army. A Marine is always referred to as "Marine," and every real-life jarhead I've ever met would object to the term "soldier." |
Originally Posted by CrazyJerseyan
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It's an old inter-service rivalry thing.
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What about an astronaut for the brain in a jar theme? Some type of accident in space dissolved skin bones and muscles just leaving the brain and nervous system floating in fluid inside the space suit now.
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I knew I was forgetting something, but a search back through the thread revealed what that was - this gem right there.|
Originally Posted by UnicyclePeon
Hey, or you could be the body of a supersoldier who lost to his evil nemesis back in WW2, but the repercussions included loss of the despot/tyrants body. So he cut off the head of Captain CloseButNoCigar and uses it by attaching the superior brain to the superior body in a horrific gestalt of evil! Super soldier with Super brain. Brain in jar. SS/Shield Brute or STJ/Shield scrapper.
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Thank you for this!
I really like that idea. Having someone's brain in someone else's body, while not entirely uncommon, is a twist just clever enough to spin something out of. I'm still not sure if I want to go with a violent theft of body of a benevolent self-sacrifice, and I'm still not sure what, precisely, could end up causing this, but when I do get around to making my "brain in a jar" character, that's definitely the angle I want to go with.I can't believe I glossed over this idea before!
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.
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Originally Posted by PSLAnimal
"Soldier," in military parlance, refers to someone in the Army. A Marine is always referred to as "Marine," and every real-life jarhead I've ever met would object to the term "soldier."
It's an old inter-service rivalry thing. |
Basic definition of soldier - a person engaged in military service
I spent just a few years in the military and never felt a rivalry with any of my brothers/sisters in arms, especially once I realized one branch could not execute its mission effectively without the other. I think the appropriate answer is that the Marines specifically feel very strongly about this point (we've all seen the sexy commercials...fancy unforms, the few & the proud etc...got it, understand the strong sense of pride in the Corps). Honestly though, I have never seen navy personnel get riled about about being called a soldier and responding with, "Im not a soldier, Im a Seaman!".
You have to realize that many civilians dont see the difference and that the term soldier is often applied across the board with no disrespect intended. A good example would be me sitting in a bar awhile back when a woman mentioned that her daughter (in the AF) would be home soon and a guy nearby raised his beer up and said, "I love our soldiers".
Military groups with a strong "sense of self" and unit esprit de corps often seem to buy the hype theyre sold about being the best and fall into the mindset. When I was jumping out of airplanes, alot of the paratroopers I served with thought they were better than their "dirty leg" counterparts that werent Airborne. Its funny when you think about it in the most basic of terms and realize that somebody went to a school...learned how to jump out of a perfectly good airplane and then considered themselves a step above those that havent attended the school. The funny part is once you're a civlilian again...none of that or military affiliation really means much to anyone except to the individual.
God bless you if you served and God bless all of our "soldiers"
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Visual of it since it's a cool idea!|
Originally Posted by Canadian_Medbot
Well you'd have to use a female body for this one. An empty jar with the shoulder-cat to explain the lack of fish in the tank.
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I would honestly love to make a female one like this, but the Think Tank is slanted back too far on the female model.
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Time and again, I run into problems of how things in this game are rigged or tinted much more so than what the editor can do, and it's actually quite frustrating.
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.
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This would be the only Jarhead cliche that I can think of:
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.
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Here's mine. Simple name "The Fish Monster" with the concept of trying to make not a headless costume, but a different type of head, with the mouth and eyes placed in a unique way.
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Originally Posted by Bubbawheat
Here's mine. Simple name "The Fish Monster" with the concept of trying to make not a headless costume, but a different type of head, with the mouth and eyes placed in a unique way.
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That's very good and inspired this concept:
A mutant fish that was initially trapped for study but escaped its captors and now on the loose, carrying its artificial environment environment with it. You could make it a tank and call it "Aquarium"
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Ninjar, the headless assassin.
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
OK, this is officially a big problem. When I saw the Think Tank, I knew it was an AMAZING piece of kit and I wanted to have it, but I simply didn't have a good enough idea of what to do with it. Insane Rick was a nice initial concept, but he's just a jarhead gimmick. Give him a regular head and he's a pretty basic, uninspired concept. I've come up with a few ideas of my own, only to open up the Best Costume Designs thread and see that other people came up with pretty much the same idea, only they got to it first. And this leaves me actually quite depressed.
So, please, help me cure my depression. Help me come up with a use for the jarhead that ISN'T something lots of people have thought up before me. A few examples of what people have thought of include: 1. The headless character 2. The Victorian brain in a jar 3. The jarhead robot I'm not saying any of the above are bad, it's just that... Really, everyone's doing them and frankly, doing them better than I could. I've never been good at character design or concept writing, I've just been good at finding designs and characters others haven't thought of, so even when they're ugly, they sell on their novelty. I just can't come up with anything here. So, what concepts can you come up that include a jarhead but aren't one of the above three? I'm putting no limits on anything. In fact, the weirder the better. Insane? Sure. Goo alien? Go for it. Lovecraftian horror? Well, if you can sell it well enough. Basically, I just want to find a new use for the jarhead because the obvious uses for it were snatched up by our community pretty much instantly |
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I have horrible altitis so I won't use this myself as I went the ectoplasm route.
But how about making a water cooler like you would find at the office. I thought about making one as a villain/digruntled employee tired of the office standing around him with all the office banter and gossip.
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I must be going crazy, but I'm almost positive I saw a screenshot of just that, but I can't find it now. I checked the Best Costume Designs thread, I checked the two Halloween threads... Nothing. But I already saw someone doing a "next gen water cooler" design somewhere. It's not a bad idea, though.|
Originally Posted by HYBRID_Z
But how about making a water cooler like you would find at the office. I thought about making one as a villain/digruntled employee tired of the office standing around him with all the office banter and gossip.
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Also, "Lighteater" fell through. I can't work with the empty bowl. AT ALL. I gave up and swapped to a different head, then killed about 30 minutes of the Vulpish One's time, but that character is ready and not a jarhead, in the contextual sense of the word.
What's also gone is my desire to make an empty-bowl ANYTHING. Until we get an opaque bowl, leaving it empty just makes it disappear more often than not, and it bugs me too much to use. That leaves the other possibility, the brain in a jar... The jarbrain, if you will.
For a jarbrain concept, I found there's something in particular I want to use - the jar and the Vampire Collar Cape. These two seem to have been made together, and they look AWESOME. If I can wrap those around having one person's brain attached to another person's dead body and somehow not be like half the people who posted in the Best Costume Designs thread, that would be a great end to a great day
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.
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The thread you're looking for is titled "Gruesome, Morbid, not really" in the S&A forum.
you could always just have a female body, empty jar and call her "gave head"
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I tried to get Celestial eyes inside the tank but the orientation is wrong: I hope they fix that because two glowing eyes suspended in an empty tank would be interesting.|
Originally Posted by wei yau
Also, I tried using the A.C.C.A.H.U.D. Combat Aura, hoping that it would appear *inside* the Think Tank and maybe create some kind of Spectral Smile character or something.
It didn't quite work out and I couldn't get it to look the way I wanted to at all. However, I'm not convinced that it can't be used for something else. I just don't know what. |
In terms of concepts for the think tank beyond the obvious, and what was mentioned so far, I can think of three off the top of my head:
1. (Tank with brain and eyes) Invisibility experiment goes horribly wrong when scientist tries to figure out how its possible for invisible people to see anything. Can make him an energy aura scrapper that can manipulate energy fields, but unfortunately everything except eyes (and brain attached) still invisible.
2. (Empty tank) Character is actually a telepresence robot: the tank is a holographic system allowing the player to remote control the robot from another location. The player stands in a holographic chamber far away from the fight, and the tank projects a 360 view of the environment around the robot.
3. (Empty tank, thunderhead aura on hair) Character is a storm elemental that is working off a community service obligation.
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Originally Posted by HYBRID_Z
But how about making a water cooler like you would find at the office. I thought about making one as a villain/digruntled employee tired of the office standing around him with all the office banter and gossip.
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I went with the old standby of "Brain-In-a-Jar-On-a-Cyborg-Gorilla"...
But then, I'm a traditionalist.
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Originally Posted by X_Porter
I went with the old standby of "Brain-In-a-Jar-On-a-Cyborg-Gorilla"...
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The French Gorilla is in a relationship with the brain in a jar.
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A gorilla brain in a human body would be better. The mad scientist just had one of each left over after the aforementioned experiment and figured "Why not?"
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Originally Posted by X_Porter
I went with the old standby of "Brain-In-a-Jar-On-a-Cyborg-Gorilla"...
But then, I'm a traditionalist. |
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