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We need a Psychic Melee and a Psychic armor powerset for all melees, or at least brutes.

I think that would be cool, not sure if its doable or not, but cool. I am guessing it's doable since I am guessing they gave psionic melee attacks to Dominators I am guessing mental manipulation will have a few psionic melee attacks and I know the burnouts for sure in First Ward got some awesome psionic based melee attacks.

As for the armor set, it would be cool to make it a mix of like Electric Armor, Ice Armor, and Fire Armor or something I guess. I think that PBAOE damage and confuse aura in teh controller epic set would be awesome on a brute.

Not really good with ideas, because every idea i had has been beaten by Positron and his staff bar none. They have ALWAYS come up with some miles better than anything I could suggest. But I figure if I were just post the idea of a Psionic Melee and Psychic Armor Set and throw a few of my lame ideas, then maybe that ocho guy who reads theses and moderates these forums would pitch the idea for me and they'd come up with something awesome!

Especially if I get alot of responses.


 

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Isn't willpower basically psychic armor?


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I'm not sure what Psychic Armor would do - it seems like Willpower or Energy Aura already pretty much cover that. Psychic Melee could be cool though.


 

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Psychic melee doesn't really make sense to me. I just imagine someone headbutting people a lot.


 

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Especially if I get alot of responses.
Like "What, we don't have enough melee sets already?"


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Like "What, we don't have enough melee sets already?"
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Isn't willpower basically psychic armor?
No actually willpower was thematically designed for the "natural" type of hero. The guy who doesn't really have super powers or super tech to rely on but trains every day both body and mind to be the best he can be without the help of mutated genes, gama rays, or fancy armored suits.

Willpower types of characters would be people like Elektra for example.

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I'm not sure what Psychic Armor would do - it seems like Willpower or Energy Aura already pretty much cover that. Psychic Melee could be cool though.
The concept of a psychic melee character is probably best embodied by Psylocke. Psychic weaponry that possibly uses the same mechanics as the demon summoning whip attacks (no redraw no actual customizable weapon model) would be the ideal. There are also characters who fight using "psychic armor" a sort of telekinetic shell that protects and adds some oomph! to their melee hits. It would probably be a set of mixed psi and smashing damage (possibly some lethal as well) with some light control. Drain Psyche and Psychic Shockwave would probably be part of it in some form as well.

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Like "What, we don't have enough melee sets already?"
Yea we really do have ALOT of melee atm. Time for more control sets IMO. ^_^


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Psychic melee doesn't really make sense to me. I just imagine someone headbutting people a lot.
No, that's Cranial Melee. Totally differeent.


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No, that's Cranial Melee. Totally differeent.
I think that unless you could slot damage resist in your own attacks, it would upgrade to Mental MeleeĀ® by the time you "hit" level 3.


 

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Another way to do this is to have the attacks be touch-based rather than weapon or punch/kick based. Dark Melee has a couple of powers that kind of have this aesthetic but it's not quite as developed a concept as I think it could be. There are a number of characters in comics with "draining touch" type powers who are not necessarily "psychic," but expressing that damage as Psi makes a lot of sense given the entities who tend to resist it (e.g. Robots).


 

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Another way to do this is to have the attacks be touch-based rather than weapon or punch/kick based.
[Mind Probe] comes to... erm... mind.


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[Mind Probe] comes to... erm... mind.
Exactly the line I was thinking.

Other power animations that could fit:

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I remember a few years ago...this was brought up by the devs, by way of giving players a choice.

They had proposed something like 3 or 4 melee sets and 3 or 4 defense sets.

I don't really remember all of them...but i do remember that for melee, it was Psychic Melee, Dual Blades, and 1 or 2 others. Obviously...DB took the win (i personally voted Psy Melee).

For the defense side...i can only remember the winner...Willpower. (tho i THINK Psy Armor might've been an option)


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I remember a few years ago...this was brought up by the devs, by way of giving players a choice.

They had proposed something like 3 or 4 melee sets and 3 or 4 defense sets.

I don't really remember all of them...but i do remember that for melee, it was Psychic Melee, Dual Blades, and 1 or 2 others. Obviously...DB took the win (i personally voted Psy Melee).

For the defense side...i can only remember the winner...Willpower. (tho i THINK Psy Armor might've been an option)
Psi Armor was an option, though Shields was actually the winner. We were just told at the time that that set would take a lot more work than other sets to get done, so they gave us Willpower (the second place finisher) first.


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Fighting the Awakened in First Ward shows some inkling of what Psy Melee might be if the devs make it. Maybe they're a test bed for the powerset like the Cimeroans were for Shield defense.

Kin Melee colored psypink is works for me atm though.


 

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We need a Psychic Melee and a Psychic armor powerset for all melees, or at least brutes.
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We need a Psychic Melee and a Psychic armor powerset for all melees, or at least brutes.
I would just be patient.

Psychic melee attacks have made their first appearance on foes in First Ward. I'd suspect there may be something in the works...


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Purple Kinetic Melee/Energy aura or Willpower.


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Originally Posted by Deathbeforedisco View Post
We need a Psychic Melee and a Psychic armor powerset for all melees, or at least brutes.

I think that would be cool, not sure if its doable or not, but cool. I am guessing it's doable since I am guessing they gave psionic melee attacks to Dominators I am guessing mental manipulation will have a few psionic melee attacks and I know the burnouts for sure in First Ward got some awesome psionic based melee attacks.

As for the armor set, it would be cool to make it a mix of like Electric Armor, Ice Armor, and Fire Armor or something I guess. I think that PBAOE damage and confuse aura in teh controller epic set would be awesome on a brute.

Not really good with ideas, because every idea i had has been beaten by Positron and his staff bar none. They have ALWAYS come up with some miles better than anything I could suggest. But I figure if I were just post the idea of a Psionic Melee and Psychic Armor Set and throw a few of my lame ideas, then maybe that ocho guy who reads theses and moderates these forums would pitch the idea for me and they'd come up with something awesome!

Especially if I get alot of responses.
I made a "psychic melee" character using Dark Melee and Dark Armor. Both sets seem to work well with the idea of "psychic melee" set. There is a LOT of overlap.

you could probably do the same with kin melee and en armor as well


 

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If I wanted to make a Psylocke style character, I'd use claws with purple vanguard claws. You have the mental touch effect with ranged knockdown attacks. The secondary could be super reflexes (mind reading your opponent to dodge before they move), or ea/lightning/dark recolored depending on which set you want to roll.


 

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No actually willpower was thematically designed for the "natural" type of hero. The guy who doesn't really have super powers or super tech to rely on but trains every day both body and mind to be the best he can be without the help of mutated genes, gama rays, or fancy armored suits.

Willpower types of characters would be people like Elektra for example.

Willpower could absolutely be played as Psychic armor.

It's all about how you play it off conceptually.

I use Willpower and use it conceptually in the sense that I am superhumanly durable and my abilities increase or decrease according to my "Willpower".

A wise person once told me. "Don't let in-game descriptions ruin the way you play the game".


 

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There are already several Psi melee powers in Blaster and Dom sets.

Mind Probe
Telekinetic Thrust
Drain Psyche
Psychic Shockwave
Concentration (Buildup)
World of Confusion

Add a few more ST attacks and Taunt and you have a set.

Drain Psyche and World of Confusion would probably fit better in a defense set though.


 

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Wouldn't the secondary effect be similar to Ice? It seems that it wouldn't make sense for Brutes for the same reason that Ice doesn't. Counterproductive to building Fury.


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We need more non-melee sets. I want to try some of these other archetypes out, but I want to play them with the benefit of new game design rather than some of the old boring stuff.