Fun with Burnout: What are the possibilities?
You can stack Ice Blast's Tier 9, Blizzard. I tried to stack Ice Storm twice but it didn't work. Ice Storm only lasts 15 secs so I may have spent too long popping blues and the first Ice Storm expired normally. Afterburner requires almost 50 end to activate. If you have any afterburn tricks you want to try make sure you got some blues handy.


I haven't played around alot with burnout but I LOVE it so far on the few I picked it up on.
Claws/Elec brute: I use energize, power surge then burnout(energize reduces the end cost) and have them back up to use again when they wear off if things get rough.
MA/Regen scrapper: When things get rough I can have DP, instant healing, mog then burnout then use shadow meld and anything else as needed.
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A blue inspiration from 0 end is not gonna be enough to use Burnout unless you've slotted it heavily.
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So far my favorite thing I've done with it is:
Phantom Army - Lightning Storm - Tornado - Water Spout - Burn Out - Lightning Storm - Tornado - Water Spout
How EFFECTIVE this particular string of powers is is up for debate, but the sheer mad cackling it inspired in me was well worth the respec to fit it in.
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I liked using double Overcharge with my character on beta.
Went on a famous (or infamous) Smurphy ITF the other day and he made ample use of Burnout on his Illusion/Rad Controller for double Fallout/Mutation goodness.
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I love the thread, but I'm hoping someone can answer your actual question, which powers stack? Love the combos though, especially the double fallout. Wow! But can someone make a list of all the longer recharging powers from each set that have stackable secondary effects?
I love the thread, but I'm hoping someone can answer your actual question, which powers stack? Love the combos though, especially the double fallout. Wow! But can someone make a list of all the longer recharging powers from each set that have stackable secondary effects?
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Still we (Empaths) can do Fort (target 1) + AB (target 1) + Nuke + Judgement Nuke + Burnout + Fort (target 2) + AB (target 2) + Nuke + Judgement Nuke. Now imagine that in a paired (or multiple) Empaths where target 1 is of course the other Empath and target 2 is a Rad defender using Fallout, Nuke, Judgement Nuke, his own Burnout repeat.
Just an FYI, Burnout does not recharge Incarnate/pool/Patron/APP/inherent powers. It only recharges primary/secondary powers
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Maybe during a BAF or something with a lot of spawns, Dimension Shift -> Burnout -> Dimension Shift? You know, just so that everyone will love you and get a big kick out of your jovial nature. No, no ... Not kick, as in kick me from the team ..... *sniffle*.
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The biggest use I've found for it so far is to double the duration of my tier 9, for extended AV fights. I just have to make sure to use burnout before the crash, and then as soon as it crashes, I pop one blue, use the tier 9 again, and seconds later I have a full blue bar again, along with tier 9 defense. It works very well.
Just an FYI, Burnout does not recharge Incarnate/pool/Patron/APP/inherent powers. It only recharges primary/secondary powers
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While I was stripping IOs off my emp I picked it up just to mess with before stripping more IOs.
Regen Aura, Recov Aura, Phantom Army do not stack. (sadface).
Adrenaline Boost can't stack on the same target, but you could use it to get AB on 2 people (which is nice, I suppose, and get Fortitude on an extra person at the same time, or rezz 2 people back to back, if you actually take the rez).
For a support emp I could see it being a decent choice, the -end is really unfortunate, but emps don't really have any endurance issues. For most other things it looks to be pretty gimicky.
Now here's the big question, because of burnout's nature, would this allow me to stack Drain Psyche castings?
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(which in turn would theoretically result being able to hit drain psyche, black star, blue inspie, burn out, drain psyche again, then follow up with a second black star?) |
And while we're on the subject, what powers can we stack with Burn out? I know some are programmed to NOT be stackable, others are, and others we don't know purely because we've never been able to recharge them fast enough to test. |
Most pet-like powers in buff/debuff sets will stack. Fallout, Power of the Phoenix, Liquefy, Sleet, Freezing Rain, Tornado, Lightning Storm, Tar Patch, Glue Arrow, Disruption Arrow, Oil Slick Arrow, Caltrops, Triage Beacon, Acid Mortar, Poison Trap (both versions), Trip Mine, and Time Bomb will stack, allowing you to have another one out at the same time. Dark Servant, Seeker Drones and Force Field Generator do not stack.
Most mez-like powers in buff/debuff sets will stack: Howling Twilight, Fearsome Stare, Thunder Clap, Poison Gas Arrow, EMP Arrow, EM Pulse will stack. Black Hole, Detention Field, and Sonic Cage also stack, if the target's not phased after the first hit. Neurotoxic Breath's hold stacks but not its slow.
I don't know about Time Manipulation, but since the devs are still going through an extended buff/debuff phobia phase, I'd expect Time to be mostly or entirely unstackable, like Poison.
Theoretically yes. Though it would have to be a lot of blues.
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Also, does anyone know, is Instant Healing stackable? I'm curious just how high hp/s can get.
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Instant Healing doesn't stack, sadly (at least according to Mids). And good luck actually getting super inspirations to use, unless you want to spend millions of inf just to pull off a cool trick.
I do think I want to take Burnout if I ever make an Ice Blast user though... double stacked Blizzard sounds fun.
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Instant Healing doesn't stack, sadly (at least according to Mids). And good luck actually getting super inspirations to use, unless you want to spend millions of inf just to pull off a cool trick.
I do think I want to take Burnout if I ever make an Ice Blast user though... double stacked Blizzard sounds fun. |
And supers are not particularly expensive unless they spiked again while I wasn't looking. I have lowball bids out on many of them and am slowly filling my base's insp storage with them. I have like 20 or so without investing more than 10 minutes into it over the past 2 weeks.
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Thank you everyone at Paragon and on Virtue. When the lights go out in November, you'll find me on Razor Bunny.
Double Stacked Blizzard as a Corruptor on an AV with < 15% Health would do the single most damage in the entire game.
1) Blizzard is a pet power, thus, it does the same damage regardless of being a Blaster or Corruptor.
2) Blizzard can crit via Scourge and less then 15% means it crits every time.
3) It would deal 2,027.68 damage unehanced, at the damage cap it would do 5 time this number or 10,138.4.
10,138.4 -- That would destroy most AV's.
Edit: And lets say you add the corruptor damage debuff so -30% resistance... it would bring this up to 13,179.92 damage.... if an AV was at the resistance cap by being debuffed and with 0 resistance it would do 40, 553.6 DAMAGE.
Double Stacked Blizzard as a Corruptor on an AV with < 15% Health would do the single most damage in the entire game.
1) Blizzard is a pet power, thus, it does the same damage regardless of being a Blaster or Corruptor. 2) Blizzard can crit via Scourge and less then 15% means it crits every time. 3) It would deal 2,027.68 damage unehanced, at the damage cap it would do 5 time this number or 10,138.4. 10,138.4 -- That would destroy most AV's. Edit: And lets say you add the corruptor damage debuff so -30% resistance... it would bring this up to 13,179.92 damage.... if an AV was at the resistance cap by being debuffed and with 0 resistance it would do 40, 553.6 DAMAGE. |
So #1 is true, despite them being two separate pet entities. For some reason the Corruptor version has exactly the same damage values as the Blaster Version, but with Scourge also added in. And, as with Rain of Fire, Scourge does twice the damage of the normal ticks, in other words a Scourge damage tick is three times higher than an unscourged. And Ice Storm is the same!
I'm now even more happy I made an Ice/Time Corruptor.
So I was working on a dark/mental blaster build and looked over burnout as a possible power choice, the prime reason for this would be to instantly recharge Drain Psyche.
Now here's the big question, because of burnout's nature, would this allow me to stack Drain Psyche castings? (which in turn would theoretically result being able to hit drain psyche, black star, blue inspie, burn out, drain psyche again, then follow up with a second black star?)
And while we're on the subject, what powers can we stack with Burn out? I know some are programmed to NOT be stackable, others are, and others we don't know purely because we've never been able to recharge them fast enough to test.
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