F2P Players need chat love
lol oh well....who as F2p is going to go as far as t3? for the $ u spend going up to T3 u better go VIP for some months :S
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Hell, just buying a few costume sets/aura's/power set and you are getting close to automatically having this as an extra...
I personally think that actually just going "Subscription" is better in the long run (at least until you get to the higher tiers and most stuff will be available when you are "premium status"),
yeah , the idea of selling costumes , auras is nice .....but not worth it
why buy an costume set while u are f2p? if u are really interested in having fun go VIP and u get 400 points that u can spend on whatever u wanted in the 1 place.....
yeah , the idea of selling costumes , auras is nice .....but not worth it
why buy an costume set while u are f2p? if u are really interested in having fun go VIP and u get 400 points that u can spend on whatever u wanted in the 1 place..... |
- Barbarian Costume (36 pieces)
- Magic Costume (25 pieces)
- Animal Costume (18 pieces)
- Cyborg Costume (16 pieces)
- Mutant Costume (18 pieces)
- Steampunk Costume (43 pieces)
- Superscience Costume (21 pieces)
- Valkyrie Costume (20 pieces)
- Vanguard Costume (23 pieces)
- Wedding Costume (10 pieces)
- Origins Capes (5 pieces)
- Circle of Thorns Costume (12 pieces)
Those are *not* available from the get go for new VIP subscribers (there are also all of the Aura's and Capes pieces to go with it on top)
BTW, the 400 points that you get each month as a VIP customer...
That will buy 1 of the above sets.
For every 1200 points that you buy, you get a Reward Token as well, so that means (for example) that by buying all of the above costume sets you have actually unlocked Global Chat channels... Hell buy a few of the power sets, and you are 1/4 of the way there as well... Buying all 6 power sets costs the same as buying all of the Costume sets
(Note: Beam Rifle is a "Pay for" Power, it is not free to VIP customers)
As i said, i do believe that at least at the start a VIP customer is probably better off, but there is still enough stuff on the market to make it viable for a new player to start off.
Hell, with the exception of "Incarnate" content, you can pretty much get by with buying everything off the market that you need as you need it, and you would probably end up saving money in the long run...
Unfortunately this was predicted months ago. IMO the lockdown on freemium talking is a pretty serious disconnect with common sense. Of course they are are going to talk in the Help channel. That is if they bother continuing with the game after discovering they can't talk (I wouldn't if it had happened to me in the games I've free-played).
Anyway for some reason there actually is a filter for a LFG channel but no actual mechanic for chatting on it that I know of.
Unfortunately this was predicted months ago. IMO the lockdown on freemium talking is a pretty serious disconnect with common sense. Of course they are are going to talk in the Help channel. That is if they bother continuing with the game after discovering they can't talk (I wouldn't if it had happened to me in the games I've free-played).
Anyway for some reason there actually is a filter for a LFG channel but no actual mechanic for chatting on it that I know of. |
For the Death from below trial especially, more people should use and explain how to use the LFG queue when forming, that way you form one, and more will form from the LFG. Let it actually be used. And I've had good experiences using the LFG queue for the sewer trial several times now.
Unfortunately this was predicted months ago. IMO the lockdown on freemium talking is a pretty serious disconnect with common sense. Of course they are are going to talk in the Help channel. That is if they bother continuing with the game after discovering they can't talk (I wouldn't if it had happened to me in the games I've free-played).
Anyway for some reason there actually is a filter for a LFG channel but no actual mechanic for chatting on it that I know of. |
For the Death from below trial especially, more people should use and explain how to use the LFG queue when forming, that way you form one, and more will form from the LFG. Let it actually be used. And I've had good experiences using the LFG queue for the sewer trial several times now.
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Why are you perpetuating the problem with the LFG system by pre-forming groups? DfB doesn't require some mystical "perfect" group setup. Any group of players with lukewarm IQs can finish that thing. Queue up, tell other people to queue up, et voila! You are automatically placed in a group that you don't have to micromanage invitations.
The LFG system is there for a reason. Use it! Encourage other people to use it! I understand pre-forming for iTrials, which can easily be failed without a small amount of balancing. I *don't* understand pre-forming for DfB, which pretty much can't be failed. /b Queuing Death from Below, a fun lowbie experience with tons of XP - click "LFG" on your chat bar and queue up! |
The LFG system is useless at level 50.
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/lfg should do it, but only if you are already queued up using the LFG interface apparently (http://wiki.cohtitan.com/wiki/Communication_Channels)
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So wait a minute. The LFG chat channel can only be used and heard by people inside the tool that puts you in a team automatically?
That is... very strange.
Why are you perpetuating the problem with the LFG system by pre-forming groups? DfB doesn't require some mystical "perfect" group setup. Any group of players with lukewarm IQs can finish that thing. Queue up, tell other people to queue up, et voila! You are automatically placed in a group that you don't have to micromanage invitations.
The LFG system is there for a reason. Use it! Encourage other people to use it! I understand pre-forming for iTrials, which can easily be failed without a small amount of balancing. I *don't* understand pre-forming for DfB, which pretty much can't be failed. /b Queuing Death from Below, a fun lowbie experience with tons of XP - click "LFG" on your chat bar and queue up! |
I agree. Indeed, I believe I suggested such during open beta - that the giant Shivan fight could explain and require use of the LFG feature to enter it. The player response was that such was unnecessary because some aimless NPC near Atlas' statue mentions it if you happen to walk near enough to it and notice the NPC chatter.
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Completely disagree. I'd rather folks get used to the way UPPER LEVEL trials will be formed. Which is PREFORMING before queuing.
The LFG system is useless at level 50. |
I honestly am completely baffled that you're against using a system as designed for low level content that is extremely forgiving to group makeup.
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Nope. Gonna disagree with you there.
Help is too important to the free playerbase - to help them figure out how to actually PLAY THE GAME to have questions bumped off by idiots misusing the channel to LFG. That channel is busy enough with chatter, it does NOT need LFG spam in it too. We should all be trying to keep the Help channel as clean as possible for the new folks, so they can get their questions answered, NOT encouraging people to junk it up with LFG spam. |
How about an option that would allow VIP/Premium players a tag to receive/not receive tells from freebies? Then people wanting to run groups for the frees could receive tells from them and those who don't want to hear from them (because of spam or whatever) could keep them silent.
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How about an option that would allow VIP/Premium players a tag to receive/not receive tells from freebies? Then people wanting to run groups for the frees could receive tells from them and those who don't want to hear from them (because of spam or whatever) could keep them silent.
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As for the spammers, making the game F2P was always going to give the potential for them to get in. Simply put, ignore them or report them, that's all you can really do about spammers, putting in plenty of barriers for all free players isn't going to help.
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What a few of us are trying to do is get it known that if a player is organising a team/tf/trial, then that person shouts it out on the help channel and also states if somebody can repeat it on the TF channels and to send them a PM for an invite.
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Well if you are forming a team and are willing to accept Freemies then you broadcasts should include a location that they would/could be familiar with so they can find and talk to you with /local.
The obvious choices are around the Atlas statue or by the steps of City Hall or what I use to do around Christmas, prop myself up on the wall adjacent to Ms Liberty so my name is above the crowd around her. Never had problems with people finding me when I was giving out Inf to low level characters.
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Nope. Gonna disagree with you there.
Help is too important to the free playerbase - to help them figure out how to actually PLAY THE GAME to have questions bumped off by idiots misusing the channel to LFG. That channel is busy enough with chatter, it does NOT need LFG spam in it too. We should all be trying to keep the Help channel as clean as possible for the new folks, so they can get their questions answered, NOT encouraging people to junk it up with LFG spam. |
In my experience Help doesn't generally work the way you think it does; it's normally monopolised by a bunch of players discussing anything that crosses their minds, often nothing to do with the game - at least on Virtue when I'm on - with the occasional actual help request getting lost and ignored in the spam.
I would encourage all Free players to use the Help channel as a LFG channel as it's the only real communication channel they have access too, until the devs see sense and give free players their own free player channel that people worried about the inevitable gold selling spam can simply ignore.
The chat restrictions were stupid under the old trials, they're still stupid now.
I have to agree with Sugar here, having just logged off from Virtue for the maintenance.
Help channel is being used as a general chat channel, the discussions this morning were not about forming groups or anything other than random noise. Now that's actually healthy, the community feels vibrant and alive with all these new players so it's something to be encouraged.
However - legitimate questions easily fall underneath all of the noise or get flooded off the channel before anyone sees them. Responding to questions also suffers the same issues, indeed you have to add **PLAYER NAME** to try and get their attention, which works but is not ideal.
I would dearly love to see some form of server wide channel implemented which is open to everyone, regardless of account type. A unified channel people can advertise groups on or just chat about whatever crosses their mind. This then leaves help clear for it's original purpose and gives others the option of disabling this new unified channel if they don't want to read it, but still allowing them to provide help.
I understand the issues over potential RMT spam, but if anything it's worth a trial run and cannot be that difficult to implement.
I think my concerns about chat restrictions mainly stem from the fact that I want people to sub.
1) If I reffer a friend to the free to play DEMO, but cannot speak with them properly, it causes them to leave. Many of my gaming buddies were playing other games with sub fees but are growing tired of them. They know I have been playing this for a long time and I suggested trying it. I mean, it's free, and they might like it. "Meet me on Virtue where we can...Oh wait...not talk ever"
(I know my forum account says differently, but I did at one point have an alternate account which was taken in the divorce )
2) In a game that requires teaming, and heavens knows redside is needs the love a ton on Virtue, at least, it's almost strange that the one most important concept of City of Hero's Freedom, feels so limited. Yes I know there are work arounds, and yes I know that we could all move to Exalted to be rushed away from the onslaught of new players and technical issues, but the main concern I have is that the element of team building which has always been the shining gem of CoX has been replaced by clunky work arounds which effect new players and old players alike and create a rift between the two types of players.
Now I am not saying things should be 100% free, but we cannot tote the fact that the community is one of the best features of CoX if the new player entering the game cannot experience that community spirit that we go on so much about.
Limiting communication is fine. No custom channels is fine. Not being able to broadcast, send tells, or communicate with others just means old VIP players don't pick up new players. This can leave a bad taste in their mouths.
Right now as it is, I am having a hard time inviting friends to try the game, because word of mouth is only effective if the other person can hear, respond, and communicate back.
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