Warning! Circle of Thorns Bundle is a rip off!.. By 4 whole points.
By
BigMoneyHustla,
Posted on: 2011-09-27 16:16 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
They don't cost 33 points each seperately
Always remember, we were Heroes.
I demand the devs make this up to us.
I demand Jay create us some CoT socks night nao!
When you buy the CoT Bundle, it prices each element at ~33 points each to equal 400 points.
But when you look them up separately, there almost twice as much for each piece.
Speeding Through New DA Repeatables || Spreadsheet o' Enhancements || Zombie Skins: better skins for these forums || Guide to Guides
Yeah. They cost as low as 20 points and as high as 60 points individually with most being 40 points.
Quote:
They did on my 'items purchased' after sale totals. Alas, no screenshot. But still, when you get shown 12 items listing 33 each (=396), what do you think initial assumptions will be?|
Originally Posted by Dr_Darkspeed
They don't cost 33 points each seperately
|
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Zombie Man
When you buy the CoT Bundle, it prices each element at ~33 points each to equal 400 points.
But when you look them up separately, there almost twice as much for each piece. |
Clearly, we need more lasers.
Quote:
The socks aren't to wear, they are to be put on the doorknob to let your roommie know you brought home a girl whose a really poor judge of character. |
Originally Posted by warden_de_dios
I demand the devs make this up to us.
I demand Jay create us some CoT socks night nao! |
You realize now they're just going to raise the price of the single pieces.
"You don't lose levels. You don't have equipment to wear out, repair, or lose, or that anyone can steal from you. About the only thing lighter than debt they could do is have an NPC walk by, point and laugh before you can go to the hospital or base." -Memphis_Bill
We will honor the past, and fight to the last, it will be a good way to die...
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by LaserAddict
They did on my 'items purchased' after sale totals. Alas, no screenshot. But still, when you get shown 12 items listing 33 each, what do you think initial assumptions will be?
|
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Zombie Man
When you buy the CoT Bundle, it prices each element at ~33 points each to equal 400 points.
But when you look them up separately, there almost twice as much for each piece. |
When I was working on Stormrune I settled on the pieces I wanted to use. Five of them total came to 220 points. That's when I decided I was better off buying the whole pack.
Current Blog Post: "Why I am an Atheist..."
"And I say now these kittens, they do not get trained/As we did in the days when Victoria reigned!" -- T. S. Eliot, "Gus, the Theatre Cat"
Yeah, I feel like I'm getting punished for looking daring to read my sales receipt here. Not to mention, if a sales receipt is giving inaccurate numbers, what am I supposed to trust?
So, not the problem I posted thinking. But still very much a problem.
Clearly, we need more lasers.
Quote:
Well, the other way in which they can display the price on the reciept is as an overall "discount" on the package... so show the proper price of each item and then at the end show how much of a discount you actually get.|
Originally Posted by LaserAddict
Yeah, I feel like I'm getting punished for looking daring to read my sales receipt here. Not to mention, if a sales receipt is giving inaccurate numbers, what am I supposed to trust?
So, not the problem I posted thinking. But still very much a problem. |
Side note: It also doesnt help in that the market could well be set up to ignore all decimals for price points...
I think I see what you're asking for...
You'd like to see the in Market prices, and then a display of how much of a discount you received by purchasing all of the pieces together as opposed to separately.
Perceived value.
I'll pass the suggestion along and see if it's possible.
Andy Belford
Community Manager
Paragon Studios
Quote:
The sales receipt is giving the price each piece cost as part of a bundle. Showing you how much each cost when sold as part of the pack. Try looking at the prices in the market of the individual pieces.|
Originally Posted by LaserAddict
Yeah, I feel like I'm getting punished for looking daring to read my sales receipt here. Not to mention, if a sales receipt is giving inaccurate numbers, what am I supposed to trust?
So, not the problem I posted thinking. But still very much a problem. |
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Zwillinger
I think I see what you're asking for...
You'd like to see the in Market prices, and then a display of how much of a discount you received by purchasing all of the pieces together as opposed to separately. Perceived value. I'll pass the suggestion along and see if it's possible. |
Dr. Todt's theme.
i make stuff...
Quote:
Will that result in the bundles that cost exactly the same as buying them separately will be discounted? Please?
|
Originally Posted by Zwillinger
I think I see what you're asking for...
You'd like to see the in Market prices, and then a display of how much of a discount you received by purchasing all of the pieces together as opposed to separately. Perceived value. I'll pass the suggestion along and see if it's possible. |
Quote:
I think we are suppose dot report any bundles that are equal in price to separate purchases.|
Originally Posted by Bubbawheat
Will that result in the bundles that cost exactly the same as buying them separately will be discounted? Please?
|
Also what happens if you buy a bundle you already bought a few items from on their own?
Do they get removed form your bundle purchase?
If not could they be removed from the bundle price (at the discount cost not full cost)?
Quote:
Yes, and when I examined and counted the sales receipt, all twelve items listed as 33 each adds up to 396 on 400 point bundle that claims you are getting a discount. Which is why I made the OP in the first place. The sales receipt is still giving false information, and gave me my reason to post.|
Originally Posted by Schismatrix
The sales receipt is giving the price each piece cost as part of a bundle. Showing you how much each cost when sold as part of the pack. Try looking at the prices in the market of the individual pieces.
|
Telling someone to look at the individual item prices when the bundle prices are what are being listed wrong, is not helpful. Individual item pricing should have separate pricing anyways, even if the Bundle pricing get listed accurate. Sure, 400 and 396 are both less than what the individual sales prices would add up too. But it does not change the fact the sales receipt numbers add up to something that was less than 400.
I'd have made a similar topic if the sales receipt pricing added up to more than 400, because the sales receipt would still be wrong even though I didn't lose anything.
I wouldn't have had any reason to make this topic if the sales receipt was accurate.
Clearly, we need more lasers.
Quote:
Right, the whole thing with the market only displaying whole numbers and not displaying anything after the decimal point would be. That is annoying.
|
Originally Posted by LaserAddict
Yes, and when I examined and counted the sales receipt, all twelve items listed as 33 each adds up to 396 on 400 point bundle that claims you are getting a discount. Which is why I made the OP in the first place. The sales receipt is still giving false information, and gave me my reason to post.
Telling someone to look at the individual item prices when the bundle prices are what are being listed wrong, is not helpful. Individual item pricing should have separate pricing anyways, even if the Bundle pricing get listed accurate. Sure, 400 and 396 are both less than what the individual sales prices would add up too. But it does not change the fact the sales receipt numbers add up to something that was less than 400. I'd have made a similar topic if the sales receipt pricing added up to more than 400, because the sales receipt would still be wrong. I wouldn't have had any reason to make this topic if the sales receipt was accurate. |
Dr. Todt's theme.
i make stuff...
Quote:
I think you could have made the title a little less attention-grabbingly provocative though :P
|
Originally Posted by LaserAddict
I wouldn't have had any reason to make this topic if the sales receipt was accurate.
|
Bleah. The "rip off" part is the part where none of the good parts were included. 
There are no words for what this community, and the friends I have made here mean to me. Please know that I care for all of you, yes, even you. If you Twitter, I'm MrThan. If you're Unleashed, I'm dumps. I'll try and get registered on the Titan Forums as well. Peace, and thanks for the best nine years anyone could ever ask for.
Quote:
The last piece appeared as 37 for me when I purchased the pack, which would equal the 400 points paid. No screenshots unfortunately, but I'm pretty sure of it.
|
Originally Posted by LaserAddict
I didn't realize until after I bought it, but think about it.
The bundle costs 400 points, and claims it is at a cumulative discount. There are 12 items in the bundle, each at costing 33 points seperatly. 33x12 = 396. |
Quote:
I'm just going by the spreadsheet that Snow Globe made where the prices of bundles were compared to buying everything individually and I remember seeing some differences of 0.
|
Originally Posted by LISAR
I think we are suppose dot report any bundles that are equal in price to separate purchases.
Also what happens if you buy a bundle you already bought a few items from on their own? Do they get removed form your bundle purchase? If not could they be removed from the bundle price (at the discount cost not full cost)? |
While you are on the subject of the market, Zwillinger, can you please pass on a suggestion that we can see previous purchases ? As it is now, once you have made your purchase, there's no record that we can see, we don't receive an email about the purchase either. I had to contact support to find out what I used some points on, because I believed I purchased something and didn't have access to it, only to find out I had purchased something else.
CHAMPION!
Quote:
This.
|
Originally Posted by DumpleBerry
Bleah. The "rip off" part is the part where none of the good parts were included.
|
Types of Swords
My Portfolio
Quote:
I hope we at least get a CoT Lore Pet option:|
Originally Posted by DumpleBerry
Bleah. The "rip off" part is the part where none of the good parts were included.
|
Boss: Death Mage/Hellfrost
LT: Energy Mage/Spectral Daemon Lord
Support: Air Thorn Caster (Flight, Snow Storm, O2 Boost, Lightning Bolt)
Also: I want my Pope Hat! I dont care if it looks stupid with Force Field - My Warshade has that problem with the shields showing up on the Dwarf Form's Crotch already! (BTW: VERY appropriate in the Respec Trial Radiation Shielding)
Deamus the Fallen - 50 DM/EA Brute - Lib
Dragos Bahtiam - 50 Fire/Ice Blaster - Lib
/facepalm - Apply Directly to the Forehead!
Formally Dragos_Bahtiam - Abbreviate to DSL - Warning, may contain sarcasm
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Shubbie
Im very good at taking a problem and making it worse.
|
I didn't realize until after I bought it, but think about it.
The bundle costs 400 points, and claims it is at a cumulative discount.
There are 12 items in the bundle, each at costing 33 points seperatly.
33x12 = 396.
Sure, it's only a four point difference. But it's still a bundle that costs MORE than buying all the parts individually. Yeesh.
Dooooooom!
Clearly, we need more lasers.