Doctor Who: Closing Time - 24/9 (9/24)
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Posted on: 2011-09-24 13:07 in Comic and Hero-Villain Culture
I thought it was a really lovely episode! Craig and the Doctor have brilliant chemistry. Plus I loved the small chameo appearance with Amy/Rory 
...Also that ending was incredible and creepy! Kovarian gave me shivers 
It's one last call for alcohol?
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The finale looks to be quite packed. Hope it doesn't suffer through being crammed into one episode.
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I'm wondering if it might be a bit longer than normal.
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Originally Posted by Snowzone
The finale looks to be quite packed. Hope it doesn't suffer through being crammed into one episode.
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Yeah. It also suffered for following after the last two, which were excellent imo |
Originally Posted by Zikar
Overall, it was "okay".
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I thought this episode was excellent! Better than the last few. I thought it was well-balanced with humor and seriousness, though more on the light side because of the "calm before the storm" thing mentioned. Craig is a great foil to have with the Doctor, and Stormageddon is both witty and charming (I'd love a future episode with him grown up).
The Amy/Rory cameo was great, the running gag of "can he REALLY speak baby?" was continually funny and used to great effect, and there was just the right amount of lines that made you stop and realize, yes, the Doctor is going to die tomorrow... but he's so fun right now.
This did feel like a sort of extended version of one of the scenes we saw David Tennant jump around in, as he was nearing his own death. It did feel like the Doctor was saying his final farewells, like he really was going to die, once and for all. Of course, we know he's back next season and that somewhat spoils the mood, but I'm very curious as to how it all plays out. This episode convinced me that it isn't a Ganger or any of the other theories around, it's actually The Doctor walking towards his own death. But to paraphrase the Doctor himself, he's going in with no plan and no one to help him. Doesn't that terrify you?
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Great episode...see, sooo glad Cybermen were just a "filler" episode...ugh...that villain is just so "meh" to me... 
I really liked the episode...still have issues with the music/talkingtoofastthatIcan'tunderstandwhatTheDoctor is saying sometimes though...
In the previews for the next/final show...it does seem that there may be a lot of time traveling in it...I think I saw Winston Churchill in it (or was it a diff. fat guy in a tuxedo/suit shooting something?)....dinosaurs...hmmm...
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I'm still not convinced. And if it *is* a Ganger, it's been one since the end of the Ganger episode and that was the real Doctor left behind.|
Originally Posted by Mr_Samoa
This episode convinced me that it isn't a Ganger or any of the other theories around, it's actually The Doctor walking towards his own death. But to paraphrase the Doctor himself, he's going in with no plan and no one to help him. Doesn't that terrify you?
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This episode was a bit fun, though it seems a strange episode before a non-2-part-finale. I must admit I was expecting the Doctor to fail and for Craig to die.
Goodbye may seem forever
Farewell is like the end
But in my heart's the memory
And there you'll always be
-- The Fox and the Hound
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Actually I think it is more that time has gone all wibbly wobbly since that is Churchill and he is being fanned by Romans. There has been more info that I have read about but as River says, "Spoilers."|
Originally Posted by Energizing_Ion
In the previews for the next/final show...it does seem that there may be a lot of time traveling in it...I think I saw Winston Churchill in it (or was it a diff. fat guy in a tuxedo/suit shooting something?)....dinosaurs...hmmm...
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And about the ganger idea with the real Doctor being the one left behind, I recall seeing at the end the Doctor that stayed behind burst into white goo when he activated his sonic.
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That he did. But, as others have pointed out previously, there have been gaps of time between some of the episodes. It's quite possible that the Doctor ran into the Ganger and they've switched places.
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Originally Posted by Dr_Mayhem
And about the ganger idea with the real Doctor being the one left behind, I recall seeing at the end the Doctor that stayed behind burst into white goo when he activated his sonic.
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Goodbye, I guess.
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I must've missed that. For some reason I just recall it cutting away leaving me to guess what the final outcome was.
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Originally Posted by Dr_Mayhem
And about the ganger idea with the real Doctor being the one left behind, I recall seeing at the end the Doctor that stayed behind burst into white goo when he activated his sonic.
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Goodbye may seem forever
Farewell is like the end
But in my heart's the memory
And there you'll always be
-- The Fox and the Hound
I'm leaning towards the doctor using the twin streams facility some how to have 2 of him. But that is only a wild guess and probably wrong. I think he deliberately split himself and one goes to his death so the other can hunt the killers. Note that his tardis was only with the younger Doctor, where was it? That is a huge anomaly.
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So, here's my question: If things are as they appear, and this Doctor only has a day to live, then when does the Doctor go on all those romantic dates with River that River has already experienced?
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All of that's already happened I think. In A Good Man Goes to War, her adult self had been on a romantic date with "a" Doctor.
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Just cause the Doctors gonna die tomorrow doesn't mean he can't go on a date with River 20+ years in the future. That's how the Doctor rolls |
Originally Posted by Zombie Man
So, here's my question: If things are as they appear, and this Doctor only has a day to live, then when does the Doctor go on all those romantic dates with River that River has already experienced?
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But it hasn't happened yet for our about-to-die Doctor.
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Originally Posted by Zikar
All of that's already happened I think. In A Good Man Goes to War, her adult self had been on a romantic date with "a" Doctor.
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Remember, the Doctor is 200 years older in Closing Time. 200 years is a long time. The two gaps this could have happened during is between A Good Man Goes To War/Let's Kill Hitler, and/or The God Complex/Closing Time.
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Originally Posted by Zombie Man
So, here's my question: If things are as they appear, and this Doctor only has a day to live, then when does the Doctor go on all those romantic dates with River that River has already experienced?
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We will honor the past, and fight to the last, it will be a good way to die...
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The latter seems to make more sense; he didn't seem quite so resigned to death (well, the death in question anyway) in Let's Kill Hitler which suggests it was still some distance away.
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Originally Posted by DarkGob
Remember, the Doctor is 200 years older in Closing Time. 200 years is a long time. The two gaps this could have happened during is between A Good Man Goes To War/Let's Kill Hitler, and/or The God Complex/Closing Time.
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As has been pointed out, there's been 200 years missing between A Good Man Goes to War and now.|
Originally Posted by Zombie Man
But it hasn't happened yet for our about-to-die Doctor.
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I wouldn't be surprised if that 200 years was between A Good Man and Let's Kill Hitler, since the Doc isn't with Amy and Rory and that's also the "first" time River meets the Doctor.
I still guess that there is a slight-of-hand involved. The Doctor did prepare gas/petrol to cremate the body. To the companions, it would appear, as stated, that they are protecting his genetic material from exploitation. Really though, I think he's burning the evidence that it is not him. That gives him a chance to hunt for a change, and might free River from her exploiters.
As to Closing Time, it was okay. Unlike others I think Craig's whiny goofiness was too heavy-handed, but otherwise it was ok. Nice to have the cybermats back, at least until the one was crushed.
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Rule #1 - The Doctor lies. It hasn't been 200 years, and he hadn't actually done all the things with River that he said he had done. 'twas a ruse to convince help everyone that this was the end of the line.
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Originally Posted by Zombie Man
So, here's my question: If things are as they appear, and this Doctor only has a day to live, then when does the Doctor go on all those romantic dates with River that River has already experienced?
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I like how we see where he gets the blue letters/ the stetson. And wasn't it supposed to be River as a child in the astronaut suit?
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The reflective shield was down when the astronaut came out of the lake, so we couldn't see who was inside. The reveal in the following episode kind of implied that the suit's occupant was the little girl, but no one ever said with any certainty that she did shoot the Doctor.
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Originally Posted by Shadowclone
I like how we see where he gets the blue letters/ the stetson. And wasn't it supposed to be River as a child in the astronaut suit?
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Goodbye, I guess.
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Well, this is the first non two-parter finale since Nu-Who started.
It was an okay episode, seems like a "lull before the storm" type of episode so we don't overdose on seriousness.
Overall, it was "okay".
Although, the ending is confirming many of the guesses we had made, but maybe not exactly how we had been guessing them.
Also, I'll bet anyone we will have Radio controlled Cybermats in shops by Christmas.