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By Arbegla,
Posted on: 2011-09-23 18:11 in Archetypes and Powers General Discussion

 

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k so retype this now.

so tryed tank agian. fowed out i dont like being the "MEAT BAG" anymore so ya. no idea what to make.

k i am lookin for something good at..

1) doing dam weather it be by debuffs or pure dam
2) something that can make my dream of killing all AVs by solo posibly it makes me happy.
3) i figer by above 2 good at soloung but with only 30 mil to work with something on a lack of cash i can make work for incar content.
4) fun to play. but if it feal strong to me this last one doesnt realy matter

 

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Originally Posted by humulass View Post
k so malin a main is a pian.... I have fowed out I am no longer a tank.. Lookin for somethun defrent..



Ao basics od what I wood like
1)dam beast(even if latr on ingame)
2) av soloer
3) good soloer(have crap comp for atleast a nother month)
4) I donno fun
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Why are you no longer a Tank Humulass?

Have you thought about a Dark Melee/Shield type of character?

He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.

 

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Ill be home in 10 mins ill retype using a comp not a busted screen iphone

 

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1) dam beast

try getting the animal pack, and maybe play in Faultine? there's a dam there.

2) average soloer

since every AT can solo, this is tough

3) good soloer

every AT is good at soloing, but why list 'average' and 'good' soloer twice?

4) Idonno fun

not sure wht kind of fun 'idonno' is, but everything about this game is fun. except maybe incarnate content, and inventions.

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A mind/fire dom may be to your liking. It won't knock your socks off right out of the gate, but Mind is a safe control primary and Fire is a very good assault set. It's also a combo people have used to do some crazy things like solo the LRSF.

 

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k retyped. hope its semi beter. dislexic so doin what i can...

 

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If you want damage, then try scrapper, blaster, or any villain AT. The people I know of who solo AVs use scrappers or illusion controllers. Illusion/kin is it? I forget now. Anything can do ok in an incarnate trial from what I've seen, but support characters are generally more appreciated than scrappers.

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ill/rad is one of the famous AV-killers, ill/cold is another I think.

 

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Spines/Dark Scrapper or Bots/Traps MM. I also quite like pretty much any type of brute but SS/SD or SS/FA seem to be popular builds.

 

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OP: i'd seriously suggest a VEAT. They start off fairly average soloers, but by the twenties they're quite good, and always great when teaming. My personal preferences are the Night Widow and Crab Spider branches. Crab Spider is especially good at wiping out large groups of enemies and Night Widows are very effective against most hard targets.

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Originally Posted by Schismatrix View Post
OP: i'd seriously suggest a VEAT. They start off fairly average soloers, but by the twenties they're quite good, and always great when teaming. My personal preferences are the Night Widow and Crab Spider branches. Crab Spider is especially good at wiping out large groups of enemies and Night Widows are very effective against most hard targets.
Here is a rather expensive (go go gadget Emp Merits!) tanking crab build- With the tier 2 nerve alpha, you are soft-capped to everything. And, except for psionics, your resists run in the 40-50% realm.
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Level 28: Arm Lash -- Armgdn-Dmg:50(A), Armgdn-Dmg/Rchg:50(29), Achilles-ResDeb%:20(29), Armgdn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(31), Armgdn-Dmg/EndRdx:50(31), Armgdn-Dam%:50(31)
Level 30: Venom Grenade -- Posi-Acc/Dmg:50(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx:50(33), Posi-Dmg/Rchg:50(34), Posi-Dmg/Rng:50(37), Posi-Dam%:50(43)
Level 32: Combat Training: Defensive -- Krma-ResKB:30(A), LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(33), Ksmt-ToHit+:30(36)
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Level 38: Frenzy -- Achilles-ResDeb%:20(A), Erad-Dmg/Rchg:30(39), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:30(39), Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:30(43)
Level 41: School of Sharks -- Enf'dOp-Acc/Rchg:50(A), Enf'dOp-EndRdx/Immob:50(42), Enf'dOp-Acc/EndRdx:50(42), Enf'dOp-Immob/Rng:50(42), Enf'dOp-Acc/Immob/Rchg:50(46), Enf'dOp-Acc/Immob:50(46)
Level 44: Bile Spray -- Posi-Acc/Dmg:50(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx:50(45), Posi-Dmg/Rchg:50(45), Posi-Dmg/Rng:50(45), Posi-Dam%:50(46)
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Level 0: Invader
Level 0: Born In Battle
Level 0: Marshal
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I'll post my current widow PvE build when I find it.

 

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Originally Posted by humulass View Post
k so retype this now.

so tryed tank agian. fowed out i dont like being the "MEAT BAG" anymore so ya. no idea what to make.

k i am lookin for something good at..

1) doing dam weather it be by debuffs or pure dam
2) something that can make my dream of killing all AVs by solo posibly it makes me happy.
3) i figer by above 2 good at soloung but with only 30 mil to work with something on a lack of cash i can make work for incar content.
4) fun to play. but if it feal strong to me this last one doesnt realy matter
If your looking to a build that can solo almost any AV for only 30mil inf then I think that fairly well limits the choice to Bots/Traps MM's.

They can destroy most AV's on SO's and for less then 10mil you can cover that for your whole 1-50 journey.

I would suggest hitting up the market forum and getting some tips on how to turn that 30mil into several Billion and then being able to open up all kinds of choices for what to play.

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Originally Posted by humulass View Post
k i am lookin for something good

I'd recommend "Merriam-Webster."

 

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Now, now, we aren't French, no need to be international elitists.

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Originally Posted by humulass View Post
k retyped. hope its semi beter. dislexic so doin what i can...
You should've mentioned this before instead of using the 'busted iphone' excuse, people wouldn't make fun of your posts (at least most here ).

Well if you like MMs, robots/traps can do all the things you listed.

Ill/Cold and Ill/Rad are also like that but can't do the same on SOs, they require substantial investment.

And people have been doing crazy things with SS/Fire Brutes lately, they can farm on SOs but expensive IO builds can pull stupid tricks, but it won't be as easy as the above ATs, you have to stay more 'on your toes' since even with capped defense or whatever, Fire Armor can get killed quickly if you don't pay attention.

 

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Originally Posted by joebartender View Post
If your looking to a build that can solo almost any AV for only 30mil inf then I think that fairly well limits the choice to Bots/Traps MM's.

They can destroy most AV's on SO's and for less then 10mil you can cover that for your whole 1-50 journey.

I would suggest hitting up the market forum and getting some tips on how to turn that 30mil into several Billion and then being able to open up all kinds of choices for what to play.
Agreed. Personally I'd start with say...a Katana/Willpower Scrapper. Fun, easy, and fast right out of the gate and only gets stronger. You'd have to invest a lot of money to solo AVs, but that's going to be the case for most characters you play. Even the ones best at it. Besides AV's, they are absolute beasts solo with very little investment(Frankenslotting for instance).

 

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Originally Posted by joebartender View Post
If your looking to a build that can solo almost any AV for only 30mil inf then I think that fairly well limits the choice to Bots/Traps MM's.

They can destroy most AV's on SO's and for less then 10mil you can cover that for your whole 1-50 journey.

I would suggest hitting up the market forum and getting some tips on how to turn that 30mil into several Billion and then being able to open up all kinds of choices for what to play.
I'll also second this vote. And I will point you at seebs over in the market forum. He has an offer that you will want to take him up on.

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K so after goin throw 20 pages of mm forums. I am down to makin one of two mms.


Bot/trap - your standerd pwn all mm


Bot/ff - easy mode but well need vem dagger or lore pet for avs

Both seem good. trap more so but steep leatnin curve from what I can tell. Ff is easy mode but might seem like I am just folowing around my nots fealin useless

 

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Originally Posted by humulass View Post
K so after goin throw 20 pages of mm forums. I am down to makin one of two mms.


Bot/trap - your standerd pwn all mm


Bot/ff - easy mode but well need vem dagger or lore pet for avs

Both seem good. trap more so but steep leatnin curve from what I can tell. Ff is easy mode but might seem like I am just folowing around my nots fealin useless
Really traps isn't hard. You just have to know what each power does and in the beginning you'll feel like the powers take forever to recharge, that changes later.

And well, if you make a toon that needs lore pets to defeat an AV (in case you are making an AV soloing toon), just know that even an Empathy Defender that didnt take any power from his secondary can solo AVs with lore pets. I wouldn't make a Bots/FF foe this intention, and with traps you'll have soft capped defenses anyway, FF has no powers that help you with AVs other than the ones that grant defense, traps has - defense, - regen, - resist, + regen (Traige Beacon), slow (web grenade, poison trap, caltrops), not sure how much AVs resist slow and - rech tho.

 

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K /trap it is. Sence I well be right in enemys face goin tankminder makes sence.


So its ether
Bots/ - like them just lack a concept but have a few days to figer it out.

Ninjas/ - i,like them alot. Have concept have a costumes,made from a dark/ma tank that works purfectly. Would trap,make up for thare sqishyness a bit. AV killin isnt to important if its fun.

 

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Originally Posted by humulass View Post
K /trap it is. Sence I well be right in enemys face goin tankminder makes sence.


So its ether
Bots/ - like them just lack a concept but have a few days to figer it out.

Ninjas/ - i,like them alot. Have concept have a costumes,made from a dark/ma tank that works purfectly. Would trap,make up for thare sqishyness a bit. AV killin isnt to important if its fun.
Ninjas are very squishy and lots of people get frustrated with them. Bots are very strong and as a bonus they do -regen which is great vs AVs. Also, ninja's to mostly lethal and smashing which is the most resisted type of damage in the game.

I have just started a /nin mm myself, but really I have to recommend bots based on the experience you want to have and your goal of fighting AVs.

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I can be found, outside of paragon city here.
Thank you everyone at Paragon and on Virtue. When the lights go out in November, you'll find me on Razor Bunny.

 

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Originally Posted by humulass View Post
k so retype this now.

so tryed tank agian. fowed out i dont like being the "MEAT BAG" anymore so ya. no idea what to make.

k i am lookin for something good at..

1) doing dam weather it be by debuffs or pure dam
2) something that can make my dream of killing all AVs by solo posibly it makes me happy.
3) i figer by above 2 good at soloung but with only 30 mil to work with something on a lack of cash i can make work for incar content.
4) fun to play. but if it feal strong to me this last one doesnt realy matter
your problem is using a tank to solo AVs. Tanks can (if built right) never die to an AV (depending on the AV of course)... and just take constant beating. However it's rare, without some serious incarnate nonsense, for a tanker to be able to do the debuff/damage necessary to solo an AV

I know you can manage this with certain scrapper and brute builds (an far less common a stalker). Controllers and Masterminds (and to a lesser extent Doms) are infamous solo AV killers. You might even be able to manage with the right Corr build... But you're probably not going to manage with a Defender/Blaster or Tanker... atleast not without massive incarnate style help.

If you want something to easymode an AV or GM, i'd suggest an Illusion/Radiation controller. Once you've got permanent Phantom Army, you can pretty much roll over anything, even the toughest AVs/GMs will melt.

After ill/rad comes Fire/Kin, or Fire/Cold controllers, and your 'anything/poison' masterminds... actually a lot of masterminds get into this category... as well as fire/psi and maybe a few other dom builds... maybe some extreme brute builds slip into this tier (i doubt it, i think they're generally about a step under this for "ease" of victory but then i've never been a huge fan of brutes)

 

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Originally Posted by Sprite Fire View Post
But you're probably not going to manage with a Defender/Blaster or Tanker... atleast not without massive incarnate style help.
Anyone with a Traps/anything, Rad/anything,or Cold/anything defender would likely beg to differ. Time/ will soon join that list as people start to get a hang for the set and see how nice the layerd debuffs are against AV's.

As for Tankers, you only need a bit over 100dps to kill an AV. Toss in an envenomed dagger temp power and you don't even need that much dps. It may take a bit of time for a tanker to whittle down the AV but no incarnate powers are needed as long as you have a decent attack chain.

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