Sure as long as the people that have had their ability to delete and create new AE content perma-locked for abusing the feature remain banned from making AE content.
Actually... this could be a really good idea. Especially since all arcs are stored locally on one's own computer. This COULD encourage story writers to fix the things that are broken in their arc and re-publish it in the "proper" spot.
However, I think the "Farm" section should likely be suggested as "Non-Story Arcs," that way the Devs aren't coming across as if they condone farming... but it would be a pretty specific nod in their direction.
It would mean losing my low number.. but I am all for it...
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I'm all for it.
The stars need to be done away with, though. Just a simple Like/Dislike.
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The stars need to be done away with, though. Just a simple Like/Dislike.
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Also could we not call them farms, how about having a category called "Combat Missions"? A category for people that want to make tough missions without extensive story content.
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Also could we not call them farms, how about having a category called "Combat Missions"? A category for people that want to make tough missions without extensive story content.
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Well no, because some people do actually create missions that are designed just to be a hard fight.
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Well no, because some people do actually create missions that are designed just to be a hard fight.
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However, I think the "Farm" section should likely be suggested as "Non-Story Arcs," that way the Devs aren't coming across as if they condone farming... but it would be a pretty specific nod in their direction.
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"Story arcs"
"Non story arcs"
All with their own subcategories. Stories have the whole "Canon related," "Origin story," etc. Non story arcs can have a "Farm" label, "Challenge," "Experimental," "Non-combat" (for things like the "crafting room" or whatever it was) and the like.
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Are you familiar with Stack Exchange? I was thinking of a rating system like they use. Mostly people only rate things they like (you rate them up or down) but rating them down causes a slight lowing of your own rating. It seems to work very well and prevents troll 1 star drive-bys. Obviously you need to have an authors rating system as well that runs along side story arc rating. You don't directly rate individuals though.|
Originally Posted by Memphis_Bill
Ehh... I'd be a bit wary about this. Say, the first two are fine, third starts affecting it unless you give it time to "roll off" or something.
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Or maybe something like Cube Points?
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As others have said, and I agree. AE desperately needs several problems addressed. (Not that they're likely to be, since it's now 7 issues past and this game's devs are all about the New Hotness, until it ceases to be that.)
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I am also okay with this, as long as I get to mark my own arc as one not to be deleted. I like what I have done with it and I don't want it to die. 
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Who's to say that certain farm, combat mission, etc. authors won't purposefully mis-categorize their missions for the purposes of visibility, or just to spite "RPers", etc.? I think we're putting far too much faith in the honesty of other players, but that's one of the key components of the AE I suppose - faith in other players.
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I think it would be fair to wipe everything, so long as a warning were sent out beforehand so that active players could back arcs up to their local drive, so they may republish them after the wipe.
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I am also okay with this, as long as I get to mark my own arc as one not to be deleted. I like what I have done with it and I don't want it to die.
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Well after they had to crack down on AE exploits the devs learned they can't trust the players as far as the AE is concerned.
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Who's to say that certain farm, combat mission, etc. authors won't purposefully mis-categorize their missions for the purposes of visibility, or just to spite "RPers", etc.? I think we're putting far too much faith in the honesty of other players, but that's one of the key components of the AE I suppose - faith in other players.
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Well, I don't really feel that AE needs a restart. If it should happen though there are some good ideas in here.
I *would* like to see some Restricted Missions though. This would let players publish some arcs (and have them count towards their published total) that would not be seen by other players. Some players would use this for farms, yes. Others would use this so that their SG-buddies would be able to see their arcs more easily, or people on their Global Friends or Server Friends lists.
I know that I make a lot of arcs that are geared towards my friends and Super Group. I'd kind of like to make it easier for them to find them, and make it easier for me to find theirs without having to search for the globals all the time. Yes, we could use unique tags... but come on.... this would be a neat feature
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Errr how does this help if the 1 star trolls aren't creating any missions?
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Are you familiar with Stack Exchange? I was thinking of a rating system like they use. Mostly people only rate things they like (you rate them up or down) but rating them down causes a slight lowing of your own rating. It seems to work very well and prevents troll 1 star drive-bys. Obviously you need to have an authors rating system as well that runs along side story arc rating. You don't directly rate individuals though.
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Not only that, but some of the exploiters actually blamed the Devs for trusting them in the first place. (Because, as we all know, if something is possible we are compelled to do it.)
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Well after they had to crack down on AE exploits the devs learned they can't trust the players as far as the AE is concerned.
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I have a friend who's currently playing the OTHER superheroic game right now (no not THAT one, the one that went F2P), who wrote at least two GOOD AE arcs before she had to let her CoX membership lapse due to hardware issues.
In any event, I think it'd be a shame to "wipe the slate" of all but specially ranked AE content for exactly that reason. Yes, I realize there's a lot of crud in there...but is it worth getting rid of it all for the few jems that would fit what people have been wanting to see out of AE?
There are some that would say "yes". I say it's throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
Which you never, EVER want to do 'cause you end up with a wet and critcally injured baby...
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I would rather see a better search engine than erasing everything and starting over.
I'm for a better search engine. My SG has used AE consistently and have a large volume of arcs for our group. Definitely, don't want to see them wiped.
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Errr how does this help if the 1 star trolls aren't creating any missions?
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http://stackoverflow.com/faq#reputation
Down voting someone elses question costs you some of your own reputation.
I'd be happy if farms were their own category. Then farmers wouldn't give my stories 1 star ratings, and I wouldn't get into a farm by accident.
My enthusiasm to pimp and ***** my own arc has certainly hit a wall, so I'd never get the same rating/hits as I currently do, but yeah, I'd be happy with it.
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I would think most (No not all, some people seem to be driven to be jerks.) farmers were like the idea. The biggest complaint most folks have is the farms drowning out the real story arcs. If the farms are in their own section, that complaint would be taken care of and the farmers have the chance to find the best farming arcs, without accidentally getting some stupid story arc. IOW, their own self interest would push them toward using the system correctly.|
Originally Posted by Obsidius
Who's to say that certain farm, combat mission, etc. authors won't purposefully mis-categorize their missions for the purposes of visibility, or just to spite "RPers", etc.? I think we're putting far too much faith in the honesty of other players, but that's one of the key components of the AE I suppose - faith in other players.
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The problem of course is first, getting the programming/graphics time for the changes to the UI. Then the decision about what to do with the current arcs. Wipe out all except for the Dev's Choice or try sorting them into categories as it. The first has the advantage of being easy, but there would be some cost of loss of arcs where the author has left the game. Probably not many, since older arcs are likely to have become broken over time, but still some. The second would avoid that, but at the cost of a horrendous workload trying to go through all of the arcs and determining what goes where. Actually, I doubt it would even be possible. Even doing a search on Farm would result in inaccuracies, with some farms not having that in the title or description and some story arcs using it.
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MARTy sounds like a good throttle, while leaving the non-over-the-top farms alone. But AE still needs cleaning up.
I suggest two things:
1. Redo the AE interface. Have a tab for Dev Choice/Hall of Fame, one for Story Arcs, and yes, one for Farms. They're going to be made anyway, make it a spot away from those who want story arcs (with their own ratings) and gathered for those that want to.
1a. Yeah, redo the rating system, too.
2. Wipe out all non-Dev Choice arcs. Just start over.
We've got so many dead arcs, broken arcs, broken farms and the like cluttering it up, it's time to do a wipe. It will also let arcs be placed where they'r e"supposed" to go. (Not sure what to do with Players Choice, since there are farms in there, too.)
Yeah, it means actual work on AE, so it won't happen, but still.
Wanted: Origin centric story arcs.
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