Cake

Originally Posted by Frostbiter

Let them eat cake.

Originally Posted by Calash

Just because you pay for VIP does not mean that everybody else does not have a right to play the game how they want.

Originally Posted by Dispari

Have you been away from the game for a while? Because it has already happened, in this game.

Originally Posted by Catwhoorg

If you are a tourist alignment, you retain that as a Premium.

Verfied in game.

Originally Posted by Dispari

The reason the chat restrictions exist is the game would be flooded with gold farm spammers if they could access our normal chat for free. That said, it would be nice if the game was smart enough to allow a free player to respond to a tell from someone who sends them one first.

Originally Posted by Chase_Arcanum

Correct.

A chum bucket has been a common fisherman's term for over 100 years, a common aquatic animal trainer's term for at least half that long, and even familiar to most people that visited a sea world in the last 30-odd years.

When we talk about two words that go together, we're talking about things that become uniquely identifiable. "Sky" and "walker" are two common words. "Skywalker" is more unique.

There is no clear-cut definition of when something goes too far for trademarks. its all rather murky.


A "trademark" is just that- a "mark of trade" that an organization does business under. They register something distinctive (a word, a picture, and word+picture) and ask the government to give them the right to use this to identify themselves in a certain field of business. The government agrees, but puts requirements on them... things like "if you want to use it, YOU have to protect it. if you let others casually use that trademark too much for things unrelated to your product, then it could enter the public domain, too bad for you."

An example would be how so many people ask for a "kleenex" instead of tissue paper... or a xerox instead of a copy of a paper... or "jello" for any gelitan product... or even "google it" for searching on any search engine. Its a delicate balance- being so dominant in your field that you suddenly become synonymous with everything in it can sound like a good thing, but it means that your "brand" has lost the distinctiveness with your sole part of the business, so you risk losing it if you LET other people offer their own "xerox machines" or other jellos. You gotta sue them to stop... and usually you gotta sue them well before that point to have a good effect.

That makes trademark protectors rather sue-crazy, which makes places like NCSoft legitimately overly-cautious on what they let players do.

... and to be absolutely clear. This protects you, too. During the last round of lawsuits, one of the points that came out is the actual offender is the creator of the violation (the player) and NCSoft was just the facilitator. If anyone like Marvel wanted to sue the facilitator again, they'd also may have to identify the original offender. That means that YOU could find yourself in a costly trademark lawsuit too...

Originally Posted by Kioshi

Originally Posted by Zombie Man

That's why I always buy 80 of each.

Originally Posted by The_South

Plus ya know, if ya like to play as a character in one game, why not another?

Originally Posted by Calash

This thread needs more pie!!!

Originally Posted by CactusBrawler

Well if they don't accept UK law, they wouldn't be able to do business with UK players.

And they certainly wouldn't charge us in pound stirling.

Originally Posted by CactusBrawler

Problem in some countries for example the UK that policy is illegal.

Originally Posted by Feycat

My billing date was Oct 3.... I don't fee l like I'm "months behind" if I get my points on October 11. I'm a little miffed I don't get a token until November 3, but hey.

Seriously, some of these threads are just sad. They don't NEED to compensate us for every time we get a wrinkle in our panties.

Originally Posted by TrueGentleman

To reiterate, that's months plural, not singular. If that were the case, this wouldn't even be a discussion. Indeed, if all players were on the same schedule and could play regularly every day from week to week, it wouldn't be an issue either. That's not how things are in real life.


Thank you, that's actually a piece of solid information (not mentioned in Von Krieger's helpful summary). Unfortunately, Zwillinger did not specify this in his post, so either the situation has changed or further clarification is necessary.

As it stands, some players can now look forward to months of missing out on regular sales. After repeated server downtime, unscheduled maintenance, market bugs and inaccessibility, Freedom's eleventh-hour delay, the end of level pacts, etc., etc., what's one more glitch between Paragon and paying customers?

Originally Posted by Shubbie

So the refund policy is no refunds unless you are lucky and call the rep when they arent having a bad day?

Really?

Originally Posted by Shubbie

Why I dislike the set is irrelevant in this discussion.

Whats the return policy.

Half the posters say No Refunds

Half say call customer service..

This is not good. It doesnt even matter what the policy is, whats bad is no one knows.

Originally Posted by Gunbunny

One could argue that this is an online sale. Just like a postorder.

If I buy something at a postorder company, I can send it back and ask for a refund. The same thing applies to Internet sales (at least in my coun try). So if you buy this set then decide you hate it, you should be able to send the package back and get your money or in this case points back.

Not sure how well the customer is protected in the States though.

Originally Posted by Shubbie

I think I will

If I really really was upset, I would charge back the point purchase, I know credit cards will back the customer on this over the game company, I did it before to another company that did tick me off to that point.

But it does create a bit of a mess.

Originally Posted by Justice Blues

It never stopped. I usually saw one or two on Virtue help every week before Freedom launched. And apparently it is very active in local near the Wentworth's in AP on Virtue and Freedom.

All the stuff put into the game because of the RMT spammers has never stopped it, just slowed it down. The influx of new players means the amount will increase, but not as much as the spammers would like, because of those limits.