So how long before they spill the beans for the new dom stuff?

Scatter the mobs to the end of the wooooorrrllldddd!

Just a thought I had:

What if the major plans the devs have in store for Dominators isn't that they're getting access to new powerSETS, but that they're getting access to new powerset CATEGORIES... Namely, melee attack and ranged attack?

What if you could make a Dom using a Control set primary and an Assault set OR a Melee set OR a Ranged set for your secondary?

This would allow new Dominators to specialize in one type of damage-dealing and would give them MANY more powersets to choose from.

Just a thought.

MC

Assault sets are already a mix, if you want specifically melee or range you just go with whichever assault is more heavily in favor of what you want.

Personally, I'd rather Doms *not* get illusion control, I like the idea that each AT keeps at least 1 unique powerset no one else has.

I'd definitely prefer some sort of shadow/darkness/void control

so issue 21.5 patch notes are up and there are most def no new dom stuff there. oh well heres to hoping that issue 22 will be that glimmer of hope.

I think they meant issue 22 anyway. Not 21.5

Considering that I have zero interest in grinding Trials I'd far prefer some new Dominator powers I'd actually use over Incarnate powers I'm not going to get in the foreseeable future.

So much in this thread that I couldn't muster energy to address, but let's see if I can.

Regarding 'easy new' options like Dark Control, any new control set, in order to maximize value for effort, is going to have to be 100% portable between controllers and dominators. In any circumstance where they release a controller primary with a visible secondary to go with it, the 'new' primary had best not obviate that secondary.

For consideration, look at controller storm - it still gets all the control powers the defender gets. There's no great issue with controllers having redundant controls in a secondary, and indeed, getting better controls in a secondary that defenders regard as a primary is a stated difference between the two.

What this means is the cone fear and the hold in /Dark are almost certainly not appropriate ports to a primary for dominators. In other words, Dark Control Is Not An Easy Thing To Make.

Regarding Illusion - the stated reason in days of early castle was that it was a hard set to balance for dominators because it did not benefit at all from domination. When that was said, domination boosted your damage as well. Since that point in time, dominators have received Earth Control that lives in almost the same space, a set that inherits little from domination as a control power, and electric control with it. This is fine - it's part of the more modern understanding of dominator primaries, where some sets benefit a lot from domination (Mind) and others don't (earth), with a higher valley and lower peaks in the latter's case.

Gravity is Fine. You should know better than talking about buffing this perfect special jewel of love that nobody understands.

Stalkers got something, Therefore doms should have. Stalkers have a huge number of easy proliferation options from every extant melee set. Dominators have one AT we can get secondaries from (awkwardly) and one AT we can get primaries from (where we have almost all of them).

Doms were just at the back of the line, sacrifices had to be made, and so, doms were the sacrifice. It happens.

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just seen some of the previous posts regarding doms getting new powers, id say likely issue 23 at best, as for grav getting overhauled or revamped, pfft dont count your lucky stars, in terms of ideas for new dom powers i like the dark blast and control, however, its too linear, my saying that because its all the same, you play a dark blast and dark miasma on defenders and blasters, its pretty much the same and repetetive, devs need to think outside the box and come up with some new and interesting sets, porting stuff from other sets as a "complete package" is pretty much lazy and lets be fair, doms havnt had much love in this area, it needs to be fresh new and exciting so that players wont get bored of the same old animations that we are pretty much used to, again im not bashing on anyones ideas, i just think doms should get a whole new set or 2 respectively since melee has got 2 on its way that i know of, just my two cents really.

Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.

I think it's pretty clear that the dev have "no time" for Dominators right now. Yes, the population of Dominator has increased since the change but it is still way behind Brute/Scrapper and Blaster/Corr.


It has become pretty clear to me that the goal of this F2P is to create something that makes more money at a faster pace.

Dominator is one of the only three ATs (besides MM and Blaster's secondary) that requires a totally new set, so if you were the boss and you want to see more sales coming in, would you spend MORE TIME on a new set for ONE AT or 2-3 new sets for 3-4 ATs (SJ, Titan and Staff)?? Do your math.

Mind you, Stalker isn't getting Titan Weapon because they don't have the time to modify for Stalker. They say a big weapon on Stalker doesn't match the "theme" and yet they are fine with Brute using a "Ninja Sword". Funny how "logic" and "theme" only matters to one AT but not the others.


So yeah, Dominator won' see any new stuff until maybe 22 or 22.5 and as far as "Surprise" goes... there is no surprise. Since when a new set is supposed to be a "surprise"? A "surprise" is when something happens that are not "meant to happen". Dominator already got ZERO Proliferated set so if Dom gets something in the future, that is not a surprise at all, is it?


Quite frankly, there is no "surprise" in the works. The dev really has no time for Dominator. I am just surprised that they would work on Titan before announcing something/anything for Dominator fans.

"Surprise! Dominators aren't getting anything!"

It'd be an expected surprise but it's still a surprise.

I personally think that locking Controller and MM doesn't have anything to do with lag or difficulty, it's to do with making the game more of a standard MMO for all the Freems who are familiar with the traditional tank/range/heal style. Ignoring Dominators, the last niche AT, is an extension of that. After all, the remaining sets are all Melee-, Blast- or Support-centric. Even the Tanker primary is being ignored in favour of the secondary.

Consider; the rationale behind the restriction of controllers and masterminds was server load. There are very few controllers who can generate more server load than dominators with the same primaries. Dominators are not restricted from free players... probably because the devs rightly assessed nobody really wants to play them.

The tank secondary is a case of overlap. There are three other ATs who get a primary that the tanker has as a secondary - it's not that the tanker's 'primary' is being ignored, it's that the tanker gets to ride the popularity of brutes and scrappers.

We're low priority.

Oh, and

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Originally Posted by Jibikao It has become pretty clear to me that the goal of this F2P is to create something that makes more money at a faster pace.

Well, durrrrrrr.

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Gravity just needs 2 tweaks, one is make propels animation time significantly lower or make the damage on par with say energy transfer or assassin's strike. For the time it takes to kill something with it the damage should be huge. Second swap dimesions shift with wormhole. Once thats done the set will be perfect. I refuse to play the set to 50 because 26 levels is entirely too long to go without some real form of aoe control.