So the Avatar of Hamidon is...uh...yow...

So I've run the Underground Trial a few times now, and I keep running into this interesting phenomenon. Namely, the Avatar of Hamidon is completely ridiculous.

WAIT! This is not a complaint though, I actually LIKE this. I'm always kind of dissapointed by boss fights that I can just cakewalk over on my first attempt. Bosses are supposed to be bigger, meaner, and tougher than every other challenge in the game, and the Avatar of Hamidon is just that.

Now I am stupidly persistent when it comes to boss fights; I've literally have to retry some boss fights upwards of 20 times (Emperor Ing, I'M LOOKING AT YOU), so I will eventually take this guy down, mark my words.

The problem is I'm worried that a lot of other players will get to this guy, get killed, go "BLEH THIS IS TOO HARD!" and go back to farming BAFs over and over. So my question is, how exactly does this guy work? And what is the best way to take this guy down?

I'm not sure whether my League was lucky last night or if my Bots/Traps is just that good, but we tore him to pieces.

I don't really know what was going on. I was confused (the status effect) a few times, but I kept on laying my traps down and when I wasn't getting shot by my own bots I had them shoot the Avatar. Somehow, he died.

What is this Avatar of which you speak; I have yet to kill a Giant Robot in a lichen infested room

Done it two times so far.

First time we make it all the way to the final room Avatar of Hamidon appears and Desdemona thinks it's a moving wall hehehee. But we had like no debuffers and I was what seemed to be almost perma confused. We lost that one ran out of time.

Second time same thing except this time I was only confused the one time and we spanked Avatar of hamidon. We had lot's more debuffers and some people doing a great job of keeping people from being confused cause I still saw the same power confuse on me threw the buff bar(looked like seeds of confusion was cast on me) but no confuse.

So make sure you gots some people that can make confuse go byebye and then alittle debuffs and just brute force the rest for the final room anyway.

Oh and on the second run I took a blaster that had no incarnate exp at all beside tier 2 alpha slotted and I got 83% unlocked for both judgement and interface so it gives out really really good iexp.

Did it on Victory on our first try... didn't seem that hard. My favorite part was when I was confused (I think?) by the Avatar and I Judgemented my team.

He's really a very binary fight right now; either you have enough Confuse protection and you destroy him, or you don't and the league descends into chaos.

What other powers besides Tactics and Clear Mind (clarity too?) help with Confuse?

The lichen-infested Warwork very nearly got us, but, and I am happy to say I came up with this all on my own, I taunted him waayyyyyy back to the portion of the cave where there are only 1-2 lichen... After that, we defeated him (with 2 seconds to spare).

The seed of Hamidon was another matter... We ran out of time, and I was confused a great deal. My judgement didn't even seem to phase the SoH, but we did our darndest.

The length of the trial was certainly a factor, but, to the credit of the folks on Freedom (some of whom can be impatient), we stuck it out even though we did not prove victorious.

Next time...

For dealing with the Lichen infested Warwork, Beorn has the right idea... you taunt him all the way to where the lichen are under control and then life is much easier.

Re: the Avatar... when we ran it for filming purposes, it was grimly amusing that he insisted on Confusing the one person NOT actively participating in the fight - me. I was just flying around filming, so I was perfectly content to let him Confuse me while my teammates continued to shred him.

Incidentally, I MUST find that picture of Razorhead doing the Call to Justice... and punching the Avatar of Hami right in the nads.

Michelle
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Samuraiko/Dark_Respite

i personally really like the underground trial, while it is a tad longer than the others, making 12 astrals on avg is very very nice and you get lots of threads plus its just more enjoyable, a lot of moving around, very cool map

BAF and lambda get boring fast since the whole map is small as heck

I have only run the UT once, and it was a cakewalk. I only died once and that's because some moron was running ahead thinking they could spike the bombs. :P

Reading this makes me reluctant to try it again, as I think I just got very lucky.

If it helps anyone, I've just posted a walkthrough of Union's Underground Trial strategy here.

I'm 0 wins, 5 losses, and 1 disconnect on the Underground Trial. Failure has most often come about due to the War Walkers wiping out most of the league and taking down Desdemona while she's unguarded. Is there a visual for when someone has been targeted or am I simply losing it in the visual noise?

Done it twice so far, both successful, though second time we got a little sloppy w/ the bombs...

The Spore Infested area is a pain if you run out of greens, no heals...and you're squishy. Think my Blaster died twice trying to get through it.

Pulled him to the side corridor. Ignored the TEST enemies. Everyone grabbed and used BFs in batches of four to resist the confusion for decent lengths of time in order to get some damage in. He's very weak without his tricksy tactics.


The first time I did it, the Trial broke. The timer counted down to zero then reversed and starting counting back up, negating the time pressure.

This led to the discovery that if you leave Desdemona to fight the final AV for a sufficiently long time, she will kill him without any help needed from the actual players

I thought the trial was fun until we reached the endless spiralling GIger alien caves. My computer can't handle the very large maps, when I pan the camera around it feels like I'm moving the physical level around my stationery character, almost like those huge corridors have weight and inertia to them.


I'm still getting the "out of memory" bug that made me play less and less in recent months

Tried it last night but failed. We were steamrolling everything until the Avatar. I was confused almost permanently, and overall we just weren't doing enough damage or living long enough. Sometimes it felt like half the league was running back from the hospital at any given moment.

I know we didn't use pets because we were afraid they would hit us. Anyone with clarion was using it, I think. Maybe we were too spread out for it to be very effective. I was trying to pay attention to those huge messages on the screen, but I think the devs have a wider monitor than I do. I don't think the first and last words were even on my screen, and the second and next-to-last words were covered by the chat box and the map. All I could see were things like "seeds! Back a" and then I'd start running, just in case.

For me the worst part of the whole trial was when I disconnected about 2/3 of the way through and I could not for the life of me find a way back to the team. They were in the middle of what sounded like a very exciting fight, so no one could spare a moment to TP me for what felt like a very long time. (Note: I'm not complaining about them, they were a great bunch. I just hated being sidelined during a fight like that.)