Discussion: Divided We Fall

Air Guitar!!!!

*shrug* So, I can keep looking forward to it and hoping it happens.
(because it deserves too, all the criminals in Praetoria need to come to justice)

Arrg, beware, mateys--here, there be spoilers!

never saw this--what arc do i need to play?

Rich

Has anyone asked the rednames at a gathering or whatever, whether there'll be *any* future *individual* character development arcs (ex. Ramiel, clone) post-50? My love of the game is a mighty thing, but it looks more and more like we're sacrificing individual development for a purely "big story" group game.

RIch

"The Greater Good."

Well, Tyrant did eventually save some of people of Rome, but only after the Devouring Earth had killed enough to suit his purpose - but it was all for the greater good, I'm sure

If you discovered that a serial killer was taking care of his elderly mother, would you say he wasn't "all bad" and just a good man with a character flaw?

Cole is the bad guy because, unless you are a fascist, he believes he has the right to control the world and remake it in his image, and that's traditionally considered bad.

The fact that Cole is not an indiscriminate mass murderer does not make him automatically a hero. It makes him not a mass murderer. He still wants to take over the place, install a dictatorship, deploy thought police, and crush all opposition to his will. Cole believes we need to be saved from the Hamidon, so he'll try to save us from the Hamidon. Cole also believes we need to be saved from ourselves. Everyone willing to be saved from themselves, step forward and join the Praetorians. Everyone else will have irreconcilable differences with his majesty.

Human beings are not all bad or all good, but we can judge people based on their overall actions and morality. Cole's morality is "I know what's best, and since I have the power to bend everyone to my will for the greater good I intend to use it." Whether that's "good" or "bad" depends on your point of view I suppose, but I know which side I'm on.

They're working on some form of soloable Incarnate content, which will be quite a bit slower than the progress players can make on the core Incarnate content of the Trials - so I think that's the place where we'll see the smaller scale Incarnate stories, like the Mender Ramiel arc, rather than the cosmic war scale stories of the Incarnate Trials.

It's not really connected to an arc - it's the letter you find at the end of the Twilght's Son TF at Ouroboros - the TF itself doesn't have any connection to what we read in the letter, apart from it being a warning about the TF contact.

1 for talos and 1 for sharkhead

Hmm. Their Hamidon was so much more powerful and destructive than ours because theirs was the fully grown and mature Hamidon, while ours has been stunted into relative infancy.

You know, this implies that Primal Earth was actually saved by the fact that we farm everything.




Primal Earth FTW! Ye-haw!

Almost anything's possible right now as we know so little about them

In Soviet Praetoria, Hamidon farms you? And maybe that's why Cole won't allow an AE building.

No.

Or at least... I don't think so.

Rularuu is an entity unto itself: http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Rularuu_the_Ravager

Rularuu's conflict with the Midnight Squad post-dates the encounter the Rikti Lineage of War had with the Battalion: http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/The_Battalion

What we don't know yet is if the Battalion that is on it's way to Earth "now" through the Shivan's is the same Battalion that the Rikti faced off against, or if the Battalion that is on it's way to earth is the Primal Version of the Battalion that the Rikti fought, and we'll eventually ALSO face the Rikti-dimensions Battalion as well.

Either way, there seems to be no link between the Battalion and Rularuu.

If you are asking for a solo path consider this post by Positron: http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showp...&postcount=312

Time is a bit fungible in City of Heroes and MMOs in general, but I'm assuming that Cole doesn't care if he completely erases Duray's memories of planning the Hamidon incursion, Cole is just trying to set Duray back far enough so that any proximate plans Duray had were just basically nullified.

I'm also guessing that while Duray's memories are being erased, his older memories aren't being rewritten. So Duray is going to wake up suddenly with a month gone, and I'm guessing he's going to put two and two together and realize that whatever he was planning, it didn't end well. But with a month of his memory gone he won't know what specifically went horribly awry without careful research, and he won't have the time given he's being sent right into combat.

That was my impression as well. And in fact, who's to say that Duray wasn't a product of Olympian Guard engineering in the first place in the Praetorian dimension.

Yes, I'm excited.

Also, Jesus, people. Stop talking if you don't have anything worthwhile to say.

oh, so that's it? Hmm...I had been thinking it was more than a 1-shot deal. If it is a repeating invasion, I'm noting that it is in Talos and Sharkshead, right around the level where free players might be deciding this game might be worth paying for. Giving them an occasional taste of Praetoria might push them over the edge.


Also, I think Duray needs a voice and it needs to be actor Jeffrey Combs. After this reading, Duray is the new Weyoun. All of him.