Discussion: Retiring Booster Packs, Expansions and Boxed Sets on the NCsoft store on August 30
Hopefully they get those fixed, but I wouldn't count on them not launching it within the next week or so. They have already cut off one source of generating new players. As of Tuesday, they will also completely cut off their income streams except for subscriptions and account services (rename, transfers, slots, etc). I can't see them doing that for more than one or two days.
So yeah, I am looking for Tuesday or Wednesday of next week. |
And if it launches with Options/Map resetting on zoning thing, i'll be on my PS3 till thats fied anyway, major annoyance...
Of the four packs I'm missing (Origins, Party, Animal, and Steampunk), it looks like the best idea would be for me to buy the Animal and Steampunk packs from the store while they're still available, then buy the Origin and Party items as needed.
Then again, maybe I should just obey the voice of my OCD and buy whatever is left to be bought so that I can save my Paragon Points for all the fresh, new shiny stuff.... |
The Devs HAVE changed numbers after something went Live, and if traffic in the new Market system isn't where they'd like it to be, don't you think they'd lower the prices or offer more deals to get more business?
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Have they lowered the price on the Party Pack? I sure haven't seen many people with it in game, and there was widespread agreement that it was far too expensive for what it gave.
As far as "The devs have changed numbers," saying they've changed (power) numbers is not the same as saying they've changed *prices.* Burn gaining or losing fear, for instance, did not cost me $5 either way - and once the store comes into the equation, there's *another* group of people (NCSoft's marketing/store folks) to deal with at the very least.
Will the temp 30 day jet pack be purchable via points? If so how much?
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Rocket Board current price: 600 points or $7.50. Downside for this one is that it disables all powers except "walk" (and that will kick you off the board) and you can't even use inspirations while using it.
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The store currently DOES have packs for things like enhancement sets, and the devs have never said definitively that they will be added. All we have had (that I know of) a listing of a potential magic pack cost, and not in an official page or something like that.
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Magic Bolero Jacket Package 440pp $5.50 Magic Cape Package 440pp $5.50
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Current price: 300 points or $3.75.
Rocket Board current price: 600 points or $7.50. Downside for this one is that it disables all powers except "walk" (and that will kick you off the board) and you can't even use inspirations while using it. |
I don't plan on being one of the 1000's silver surfer cloans or Marty Mc Fly's in the game. So a flying board is of no value.
A flying broom maybe......
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No, we have not received an official statement about the future availability of booster packs. However, in all recent dev/community references to booster packs, language such as this (from the OP of this very thread) pops up:
The good news is that players who wish to take advantage of the current pricing are still able to do so before these items are officially discontinued.
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[Edit: Another bit of iffy language is that we've never been told the store will specifically have Booster Packs. Instead they're always referred to as bundles, sets, etc.]
And if I sound bitter and distrustful, it's because I am. Between previously being told from the Producer himself that they "don't want to nickel and dime us" and the loads of hype about how "convenient" ala carte pricing is (which, when combined with an abstracted points system is a nice way of obfuscating real costs), I've become quite concerned with the current state of the Paragon Store. (And that's on top of all the other problems I have with Freedom best kept for other threads.)
I'm not even trying to accuse the devs of intentional ill-will, I'm just saying that they're presenting a questionable image at the moment, and it's largely thanks to a lack of communication on the issue(s).
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For those that want a glance at prices in USD:
Prices in yellow are more expensive than the store, the prices in green are lower. |
On the other hand, the Paragon Points pricing is also inflated because it includes Shadowy Presence. Worst power ever.
Well, if this pricing holds up as you all predict, it will be bad for everyone who used the old system and doesn't have the packs they want. New players and vets who own all the packs won't even notice it as a problem.
In Champions, there were never any booster packs, everything was always ala carte and it is pretty common to spend 5 bucks for points and end up with like 4 outfits. for about 2.00 you can get a hat pack that has 4 hats. No one had a problem because there was nothing to compare it to. I am not saying that COH is apping Champions, but if they are making money with it, surely NCSoft has to consider this marketing strategy.
One time A group of my friends were shooting the breeze and they started talking about Xbox gold service or something. I was spitting nails because they wanted us to pay for matchmaking.
ME:"On The PC? Are they freaking crzay?"
Console only buddy looked at me: "Why? what's the big deal? It's the same price as Sony's"
Other PC buddy: "Because we've never had to pay before for matchmaking"
So veterens who have not purchased the packs they want are the ones who will be most upset. The ones who have them, have them and there will not be any more bundled with that much stuff. Temp powers are seperate, auras are seperate, etc.
Apparently, there are not a lot of people upset about this. Compare this thread to the Party booster pack thread.
We will just ahve to wait and see.
I'm not even trying to accuse the devs of intentional ill-will, I'm just saying that they're presenting a questionable image at the moment, and it's largely thanks to a lack of communication on the issue(s).
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The ONLY reason not to post, is to avoid influencing the data. What data?
I'm sure they are collection data like :
Category A - % expected to quit
Category B - % expected to go free 2 play
Category C - % expected to purchase items as is
Category D - % expected that will purchase at various % reduction
Yes they did say prices subject to change at comic con, and I believe day 1 open beta...but nothing since. Not with all the threads and discussions. After all they are finding time to post about other things. No excuse other than a lack of respect to fans.
I speak only for myself, but whatever comes out of Freedom. Whether I stick to this game or not. I certainly do not feel like a valued player, just a % to fit into a Category A-D.
Purchase wedding pack: check.
Purchase GvE item pack: check.
Purchase... Sorry, we can't accept your order at this time, try again later.
Le sigh, guess I'll have to come back tomorrow.
Tyger (50), Mutation-Controller Mind/FF - oldest Mind/FF on Union
Purchase wedding pack: check.
Purchase GvE item pack: check. Purchase... Sorry, we can't accept your order at this time, try again later. Le sigh, guess I'll have to come back tomorrow. |
Yellow items will be more expensive after Issue 21 launches.
Green items will be cheaper after Issue 21 launches.
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This might be a silly question, but why would you buy a booster pack that will be cheaper AFTER issue 21 launches?
Yellow items will be more expensive after Issue 21 launches. Green items will be cheaper after Issue 21 launches. |
*reads the rest of the thread, sees table* Ah crud.
Chalk it up to not keeping up with the tabulated prices and assuming they'd all be dearer afterwards
Tyger (50), Mutation-Controller Mind/FF - oldest Mind/FF on Union
Sorry if this has already been stated somewhere but just had a quick question on paragon points.
Will the 400 paragon points a month be back dated so if, for example, I have been playing for 20 months I will receive 8000PP when freedom launches?
Thanks,
Ben
No, points started last month. So right now, everyone has 800 Paragon Points.
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I expect that Beta prices are more likely be adjusted after items are removed from the Online store. This is to ensure some profit is made on certain bundles, while others may end up at the same pricing point in total. While I understand current Beta prices are steep, I won't make any purchase decisions based on those numbers. Personally, I do however appreciate the weak dollar and Euro, which has made me pick up packs I haven't bothered with previously while buying some extra game accounts during the sale.
Gonna miss the Booster Packs and good to hear that they are still going to release costume sets as a whole.
Up until now I have purchased every extra the game offered so I'm sure that trend will continue with Freedom.
The list is not quite correct because GR and GvE also include a free month, priced at $15. So if you only count the features of these packs, GvE is only $5 while Going Rogue Complete is $15.
The list is not quite correct because GR and GvE also include a free month, priced at $15. So if you only count the features of these packs, GvE is only $5 while Going Rogue Complete is $15.
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The Going Rogue: Complete Item Pack is, as others pointed out, $6.99 not $9.99. However it didn't include a free month's play. So your objection that it doesn't include a free month is also invalid.
The GvE listed above is for the Item Pack only. So your complaint is completely invalid for the GvE comparison price.
The ONLY "pack" in that table that includes a free month is the Going Rogue: Complete Collection. However I didn't include the month's subscription in that line. If I did, the point cost of Going Rogue: Complete Collection would be 10,140PP/$126.75, not 8,940PP/$111.75. This would be a savings of $96.76 if you buy the pack today instead of after they remove the expansions from the store.
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The GvE listed above is for the Item Pack only. So your complaint is completely invalid for the GvE comparison price.
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Still, thanks for the table for more careful purchasing in these last few days.
Tyger (50), Mutation-Controller Mind/FF - oldest Mind/FF on Union
Prices in yellow are more expensive than the store, the prices in green are lower.
Then again, maybe I should just obey the voice of my OCD and buy whatever is left to be bought so that I can save my Paragon Points for all the fresh, new, shiny stuff....