CoH Declaration of Freedom Sale - and its implications
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Posted on: 2011-08-17 11:01 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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I figure no matter how well a set of Devs manage to update a MMO a given game's total possible lifespan is probably only around 10 years or so before they basically have to start over from scratch. The technology involved with the graphics and other underlying software are eventually going to become too cumbersome, convoluted and outdated to simply tack on yet another patch. The time will come when even if the Devs of this game -want- to continue they'll be better off creating a "CoH2" than trying to give us Issue such-n-such.|
Originally Posted by SwellGuy
I am still trying to figure out how this game continues to be so enjoyable to me after a bit over 87 months of playing. I thank and congratulate all devs, mods, and fellow players present and past for their role in that and future ones for the next * years.
* I am beginning to wonder if they can just keep updating it so it never ends. |
That said it would be amazing if this game could, like once every 10 years or so, recreate itself and continue for decades to come.
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Aw Hell..... I HOPE launch is mid-September.. I still need to buy a ton of Booster Packs.. like $110 worth... And there's no way I can drop that before the 30th!!!!
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I'm trying to decide if I actually need another premium-level account to go with my 2 VIPs. It's certainly enticing, and does demonstrate that at least someone understands the "micro" part of "microtransactions". |
Originally Posted by Quasadu
I was able to create a third game account under my master account using a code I just purchased for $2. So it works.
I figured for $2, I'd take the plunge and find out. |
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That's SORT of a misstatement. You get 400 Paragon Points on the first of each Month prior to the launch that you have an active subscription. If you activate now and, however unlikely, they launch Freedom before the first of the Month, you may not get any additional Paragon Points.|
Originally Posted by RosaQuartz
No goodies. But if you make the account prior to I21, you get at minimum 400 Paragon Points for having an active account prior to launch.
This is a good deal for anyone who wants to play Free/Premium on a new account. It's essentially $5 of points for $2. |
After the launch, you will get Paragon Points on your billing date for the entire duration of renewal. So if you are paying monthly, you would get 400 points on the day you get billed. If you are on the 3 month plan, you would get 1200 points on your billing date. If you are on the annual subscription, you would get a whopping 4800 points on your billing date all in one lump sum.
I haven't heard how they are handling interim points for existing long term subscriptions. For example, if you are on the annual plan, and just renewed in June. Not sure if they are giving you the balance of what you would get between now and June all at once or treating you like a monthly subscriber until your next billing date.
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Originally Posted by Frosty_Femme
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This seems nice, but paying 1 extra euro in commission to my bank for something that's supposed to cost $2 (~1.5) is a bit steep.
Hmm...
I'm actually amazed this is the first time I run into this sort of issue, in our world of microtransactions everywhere. I guess I'm usually buying locally or in bulk.
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It is possible that they want some time between shutting down the NCSoft store and bringing up the Freedom store. That may not be a simple matter.|
Originally Posted by Lothic
Paragon Studios would not likely go full month or longer without some outlet to sell their products. That outlet would have to be the Paragon Market of Issue 21. Might be time for your pool to reassess the situation.
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It seems far too late for an end of August launch to me because this isn't just an issue release: its essentially a relaunch of the title. My guess is Paragon Studios and NCSoft will want to announce a date at least two or three weeks ahead of launch, and I don't think any announcement is likely this week. Which for me means the current best case launch date is between September 5th and September 12th. The target date I've had in mind for a while now (which, I am forced to emphasize, is not based on any insider information but is just my best judgment) is end of September to early October.
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Indeed. There's a significant technical aspect to ensure works properly. Access to the beta bug reports for the Freedom store would be invaluable in this case, but are there any real show-stopper bugs for the Freedom store? (Veteran rewards seem buggy as it is.)|
Originally Posted by Arcanaville
It is possible that they want some time between shutting down the NCSoft store and bringing up the Freedom store. That may not be a simple matter.
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The other issue. though, is financial. How much transitional time is NCSoft prepared to write off their books when CoH isn't bringing in any new income? In the current economy, doubtless not very long.
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| My guess is Paragon Studios and NCSoft will want to announce a date at least two or three weeks ahead of launch, and I don't think any announcement is likely this week. |
But why does NCSoft need to make an announcement with that much lead time? The news about CoH Freedom has been circulating for a while now and arguably crested at Comic Con. In the Internet age, events can move surprisingly fast. (A certain MMORPG revolving around a particular barbarian's era, having announced its transition to the F2P model earlier this year, recently sprung their actual switch without much advance notice about implementation.)
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| Which for me means the current best case launch date is between September 5th and September 12th. The target date I've had in mind for a while now (which, I am forced to emphasize, is not based on any insider information but is just my best judgment) is end of September to early October. |
How sleep-deprived is Positron looking in the UStream videos these days? That may be the best indicator for what's going on within the walls of Paragon Studios as the CoH Freedom launch inexorably approaches.
Okay, important question here - can you gift these? I'm considering buying a few just so I can hand them out to any acquaintances who might be interested in playing.
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Launch date of the 30th? I hope not, not with 11 days until the 30th and there is still no resolution on beta for Mac users. I know they are testing internally but it needs to be on beta for through testing IMO. I doubt NCSoft wants to be grouped with Netflix.
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Originally Posted by Father Xmas
NCSoft isn't going to cut off any income from the store if they weren't damn sure that Freedom would be launched within days of that date, August 29th.
So I'm guessing the targeted launch date is Tuesday the 30th. |
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You would get Premium access, 400 Paragon point, +1 Reward tokens all for $1.99. |
Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
I have to ask, though - why would I get this specific very cheap version of City of Heroes if all I wanted out of it were a Premium account? Isn't all I need to do a single purchase from the store for something simple and cheap? Does this version come with goodies?
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That seems like a decent deal to me.
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I find it too coincidental that the end of the current NCSoft CoX store is on a Monday, which is a really odd day of the week to end on, when almost every new issue launches on a Tuesday.
Although I find it hard to believe they will be ready to go in less than 2 weeks as well.
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I wonder if the box codes will stop working at that time as well. More specifically, the Architect Edition box, which gives the person using the code a choice of either the Cyborg Booster pack or the Magic Booster pack for free. Fpr the record, the MA code does still work as I picked one up for <$7.00 shipped and applied it just now (successfully).
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Originally Posted by Ultimate Wrath
More potential evidence for early Sept. release-
Look at https://secure.ncsoft.com/cgi-bin/St...ory&category=2 Specifically the boosters, and how they all say "available until August 29th". |
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Who knows, but it looks like the 'available until Aug. 29' text is gone... anyone else find this curious?
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Originally Posted by Texarkana
I wonder if the box codes will stop working at that time as well. More specifically, the Architect Edition box, which gives the person using the code a choice of either the Cyborg Booster pack or the Magic Booster pack for free. Fpr the record, the MA code does still work as I picked one up for <$7.00 shipped and applied it just now (successfully).
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Very odd indeed, especially since that note has also been removed from the CoH download, which now makes the whole "Declaration of Freedom Sale" confusing.|
Originally Posted by Ultimate Wrath
it looks like the 'available until Aug. 29' text is gone... anyone else find this curious?
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Is the Declaration of Freedom Sale still over on August 29th? Were the other CoH products similarly labelled due to an error that has now been corrected? Or, donning my tin-foil top hat, I wonder, has something changed behind the scenes for the CoH Freedom launch?
Incidentally, the F2P-account side of the CoH Freedom went into into open beta yesterday, so make of that what you will.
Perhaps the webserver guys got a bit over-zealous when they heard 'the sale's on till the 29th' and added all the unavailale text. Then marketing noticed and said 'No, we don't want to stop selling the game on the 29th, just the sale ends then'. Nice they're keeping the site updated though.
I mean it was a bit odd that they'd stop selling boosters without a concrete date for City:Freedom.
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Sounds more like they decided that the 30th of August would be rushing it.
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This. And thank goodness -- Freedom isn't ready quite yet. If this is paragon's/ncsoft's last shot at maintaining the franchise, then it has to be near flawless if not flawless at launch.
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Originally Posted by Father Xmas
Sounds more like they decided that the 30th of August would be rushing it.
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I have a quick question, first of all, I try to read the forum for answers but never find what I'm looking for ( I'm old ). You all seem to be up on the straight poop so to speak. I have 4 COH accounts, and whenever Freedom comes out I want to continue playing at whatever the highest ranking is, ( VIP I guess ). Do I need to buy anything ? And, what of my current characters, I do get to keep them?
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Are you talking about continuing to run ALL FOUR of your accounts at the highest level - which, yes, is VIP? In that case, you don't need to do anything more than keep subscribing for all four of them. If you want, though, you can run VIP on just one and let the other three lapse into Premium.|
Originally Posted by BABonehead
I have a quick question, first of all, I try to read the forum for answers but never find what I'm looking for ( I'm old ). You all seem to be up on the straight poop so to speak. I have 4 COH accounts, and whenever Freedom comes out I want to continue playing at whatever the highest ranking is, ( VIP I guess ). Do I need to buy anything ? And, what of my current characters, I do get to keep them?
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As long as your accounts remain VIP, they will nose NOTHING AT ALL. All of your characters, items and everything you've ever paid for will still be there. You may end up having to pay additional money for some NEW stuff, but everything your accounts have now, they will keep if they go VIP.
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
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let the dice throwing gods be in their favor when they transfer it to the live servers
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Originally Posted by Texarkana
This. And thank goodness -- Freedom isn't ready quite yet. If this is paragon's/ncsoft's last shot at maintaining the franchise, then it has to be near flawless if not flawless at launch.
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I beg to differ. As an elite super-snobby VIP, I thumb my nose at everything!
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
As long as your accounts remain VIP, they will nose NOTHING AT ALL
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Now the whole Booster Pack sell-by date is official:
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The fact that out of all of the CoH products, the retail box will still be sold after August 30th suggests that some bets are being hedged. Apart from that, though, the indications suggest CoH Freedom is going to happen sooner rather than later.|
Originally Posted by Avatea
With the launch of City of Heroes Freedom™ drawing nearer, and all the new and exciting things coming your way in Issue 21, we also have to say goodbye to some of the products you have come to love over the years.
As a result, we will be discontinuing the sale of all Booster Packs, Expansions and Boxed sets in the NCsoft store on August 30, 2011. The good news is that players who wish to take advantage of the current pricing are still able to do so before these items are officially discontinued. Likewise, remember that thanks to the Declaration of Freedom sale, the original City of Heroes® is available until August 29, 2011 (August 30 in Europe) for new accounts only at a super-low price of $1.99 (1.49 € /£1.29), as announced here. In addition, the original City of Heroes retail box will still be available for $9.99 USD (8.99 € /£5.99) after August 30. Don't miss this opportunity to enjoy these products and buy yours at the NCsoft store now! |
EDIT: n.b. September 1st is of course the first day of the last quarter in not only the calendar year, but also NC Soft's fiscal year.
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