Freedom: Travel power at level 4

No, it's more like how the City Traveler vet reward lets you pick any of the first three powers in the travel pools at level 3 instead of needing to pick one prerequisite and then the travel power at 14. You'll just be able to pick from the first three powers in the pools at level 4.

Also I think it effects all the power pools, but I'm really not sure though. You do still need to have two powers from the pool to take the fourth tier power at 20 though. Oh, and the travel pools are getting a fifth power (fast flight, immediate recharge for speed, a shield charge type power for jump, zone teleport).

Or at least that's my understanding of it all anyway.

Thought this for level 6, not 3. But if the Freedom stuff is allowing us to do that at level 4 instead of 6 that'd be cool.

Indeed. Come Freedom, everyone will be able to choose any of the first 3 powers of any pool at level 4. Aid Self? Yep. Tough? Sure thing. Fly? You bet. Any at level 4.

I still think everyone should be allowed to choose one travel power at creation. Of course, I think the travel powers should be costume options. Combat powers like Combat Jumping and Hover should be the advanced versions available through the pools. Speed of travel is not the advanced factor, control is.

This is unfortunate because you'll still need that tier 1/2 power to get to what you may really want.

Bah, typos. I should really stop trying to post before going to bed. But yea, first three powers at 4 for everyone really is fantastic. I remember before I got my city traveler badge that wait to 14 (no matter how quickly I progressed the character real-time wise) always seemed interminable.

The last I had heard about this was that everyone would be able to pick travel powers at four, but only those with City Traveler can do the same with any Pool Power. Is this inaccurate?

Based on the released Paragon Rewards Table Information the City Traveler Reward seems to have been removed. The spot it would logically occupy in the tree is filled by "Blazing Path Aura".

This is not the case. Pool Tier 3 powers outside of travel powers will still be restricted as they are now. Only travel powers will benefit from this change.

That's been changed then? Because I was told differently at the SDCC.

Edit: Well, I was told that it was working as intended during the beta that the third tier powers were available at level four. I'm aware that it was just something that they were trying at the time, not something that they were promising with Issue 21.

Now, is that because it is level 4 instead of 6?

OK, see, this is where bad things and Fail happens. Allow me to explain.

If someone allows a person to believe something as fact when they know isn't true and they still don't correct them, that's bad.

A while back, Positron unveiled the Incarnate system during a presentation about Going Rogue with little more than "Ta da! Incarnates! And you'll need Going Rogue of course..."
He neglected to elaborate further. He also neglected to correct the people who honestly assumed the Incarnate system would be launched *with* Going Rogue, or that it would be released piecemeal over several years.

For over a year, he nor or anyone else on the dev team, corrected the countless threads by people who were stating how much they were looking forward to GR and the Incarnate system. Until a month before Going Rogue was to launch, after most people had already put their money down, did he "clarify" at last, that none of the Incarnate system would by in GR at launch and that it would in fact be spread over several years.

This irked a number of people, understandably. It seems impossible that Positron and every other dev and community team member missed ALL those threads over that previous year and only thought to clear things up at the proverbial 11th hour.


Now, to the point.
SDCC didn't happen a year ago. It happened a couple of weeks ago. Since then, I've counted at least four or five threads about the travel power changes, each reporting that similar changes were also made to the other pool powers too. This got people excited. They will now be disappointed to learn the truth. The disappointment can be proportional to the amount of time they were under the misconception, so at this point in time, not a lot of damage done.

So...if there are any other widely reported misconceptions or false news reported about any aspect CoH: Freedom I strongly suggest they be squashed sooner rather than later. These misconceptions should readily jump out to anyone reading the player created topics on the subject if they are in fact in the know, like a dev or community member.

Additionally, the gag order on players in the Closed Beta isn't helping; the sooner you guys go open beta, the sooner people can stop biting their tongues and the sooner people gain access to the facts for themselves. Just saying.



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It's worth noting that for a good chunk of the Going Rogue beta, Incarnate stuff (first two tiers of Alpha slot and related salvage) WERE in the game. But because of peoples reactions in the beta, they decided to put off the Alpha slot for an issue so they could put some content in with it too (the intro arc and the two new TFs).

So, it's not like they were intentionally misleading people and keeping quiet about it. For a long while, Incarnate stuff WAS supposed to launch with Going Rogue. But that changed at the last moment... which sometimes happens with things in beta.

It was still some time between when took it out and when they actually told anyone, and between when they told people that the rest of the system would be spread out the way it was (which was already planned long before they made that vague unveiling).

I doesn't matter what their intentions were, it still looks bad and causes unnecessary grief and drama.


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Bull manure.

http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showp...88&postcount=7

Now back to whatever you thought you were saying.

It only irked people who made gigantic assumptions and keep trying to rewrite history.

It did not irk anybody who was actually... you know.. paying attention.

They didn't miss them.

There was no reply.

All of those threads were based on giant assumptions made by players who either intentionally misread and / or misheard everything the developers said.

How exactly are the developers supposed to respond to players who are the textbook version of delusional: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/delusional


Good. You haven't made one yet.

So... people got excited... about a beta version of a game engine... that they new wasn't final...

Um. Why?

What part of BETA do you not understand?

Squashing misconceptions can have little effect. I've squashed your misconception on Incarnate content and Going Rogue more times than I can count, and yet I still see players, such as yourself, claiming that misconception as "truth"

... Wow.

Just. Wow.

You... do not.... on any level... what so ever... grasp the concept of a Beta Test.

This is just so far out there, I don't even know where to begin. You really need to read through that article I wrote years ago about testing beta software.


And while I'm at it, knock this little period thing of yours off. All it does is increase the space your post takes up, nothing more.

If you want to make your posts be more noticeable, say something that cannot be debunked with 2 seconds of google searching.

We're running out of forum lines? What about the strategic reserve? Or the Northwestern fields that haven't even been tapped yet?

Good thing my sig point is classed as a 'light truck'.








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I was at the SDCC CoH Panel and all they said was travel power at level 4, 5th power for each travel pool. Nothing about any changes to the other power pools. Also, anything in the beta is subject to change. That's why I didn't become attached to anything I saw while playing the beta there.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

So you're saying it is the devs responsibility to immediately correct anyone who either makes an incorrect assumption, cannot listen, or cannot read (the bulk of your incarnate example is actually based on those three, not anything the devs actually stated)? How often does that happen on these forums? IN ALMOST EVERY THREAD!

I'd much rather they were working on the game than using resources to correct everyone who gets something wrong here. That would be a full-time job in and of itself.

I'd also have to say that Zwill has been doing a great job in trying to correct misconceptions about Freedom.

So, you are admitting that without your signature your posts would be pointless?

..or else, what?

Right, I'm aware they said nothing about it at the panel. It's just something I noticed when playing on the floor, so I asked them about it, and I was told that it was something they were trying.

I do understand if they aren't trying it anymore. I know the difference between a beta build and a live build.