Freedom: Travel power at level 4

wtf

I *did* say it was functionally how it ended up working. It's not exactly a difficult concept to grasp. It's simple - just because A happens before B doesn't mean A causes B.

I hear you there. Feel that way plenty of times myself, then years later they make a change and we all say "i told you so" lol

You cannot take Haymaker without taking Jab or Punch. It does not, has not, and will never work in any other way.

That's not functionally how it works. That is how it works period. There is absolutely no possible way to take Haymaker before Jab/Punch. The game doesn't work that way outside of the AE.

This is like Fire Swords in a Fiery Melee set - yes, you can explain it, but it's not necessarily a package that intuitively goes together. If I take Super Strength (just to perpetuate that tangent), all I'm really choosing is attacks based on super-human strength. In this regard, ripping chunks from the ground, stomping my foot or sending people flying is all within context. But if you assumed, for instance, that any super-strong character would also have to be super-tough (required secondary powers) and therefore put in a power in the set that revolves largely around being tough... That's now out of context.

This is actually largely the case for Shield Defence - because passive powers could not force you to have your shield out, they couldn't be concept-specific to the shield, so the next best thing Castle and BABs could do was to make Shield Defence passives revolve around the physical fitness of the character, rather than any direct result of having the shield. As a result of this, every shield user is hard-coded to be extremely tough, and that's somewhat limiting in terms of concept. Unfortunately, in this case there was no way around it.

Another example, actually, is Dual Pistols. Having and using pistols in no way requires one to be acrobatic or super-fast, yet Dual Pistols -> Hail of Bullets still has effectively super reflexes level of dodging while the power is taking place. Because the set's animations are so fast and acrobatic, people sort of assume every character using dual pistols would have to be, as well. Understandably, those who want to make Wild West gunslingers or no-nonsense thugs are left disappointed as the specificity of the set writes them out of the picture.

In much the same way, lumping invisibility and intangibility together strikes me as an unpleasant decision. There are far too many concepts I can think of which want one but not the other to mention, but the reason I have so many is that invisibility and intangibility are not, practically speaking, the same thing. I'm really not sure what powers you could make around an entire intangibility pool, though I suspect at least a couple could revolve around phasing enemies for short periods of time, or possibly debuffing them.

Originally Posted by Arcanaville Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

B cannot occur without A. This does not mean A causes B. This means that A is a prerequisite of B.

It's not a difficult correction to grasp.