Discussion: Find out more about the Paragon Market!
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Posted on: 2011-08-02 10:55 in News, Events and Announcement Discussion
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Surprisingly, I understand how bundles work. |
Originally Posted by Chocolate_Bacon
Why?
Buying things a la carte is more expensive than buying them in bundles. This is true in any situation I can think of from tacos and apples to bombs and bombshells. |
One reason I wonder about this particular instance is that the party pack seems to be cheaper in the new system (even than the old bundled version).
Also, being 65% much more expensive for non-bundle v. bundle is more of a mark-up than I would expect. Something like 20% would be much more reasonable. A 65% markup makes me worry that even the bundle will be more than $10 in the Paragon Market.
Sermon
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Again, once you drop from VIP to Premium, you don't have any slots unlocked automatically. You're given a supply of Character Slot Tokens equal to the number of character slots you have earned/purchased in the past + 2.|
Originally Posted by Benchpresser
Ah but here's the question, say a 6 year VIP starts with his original 12, 6 from vet rewards and he's bought 15 slots for a total of 33. Freedom goes live and he buys the 12 available JUST for VIPs. If that VIP then goes Premium, does he still keep those "VIP 12"? He should since technically they are bought slots.
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You can use these Character Slot Tokens on any server (or combination of servers) up to the max, which appears to be 36 per server for non-subscribers.
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Originally Posted by Nethergoat
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Again I think you might need to let go of the old "bundle/pack" concept.|
Originally Posted by Sermon
Also, being 65% much more expensive for non-bundle v. bundle is more of a mark-up than I would expect. Something like 20% would be much more reasonable. A 65% markup makes me worry that even the bundle will be more than $10 in the Paragon Market.
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Buying items in this game is no longer going to be confined to "collections" of items.
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Originally Posted by Golden Girl
I think I might buy some extra slots
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Originally Posted by Nethergoat
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Huh? There will still be bundles in the store. Even today's update about the Paragon Market gives a price for the complete magic costume set (which is presumably cheaper than buying the pieces individually). They may well still sell the whole magic booster pack as a bundle in the new store as well.|
Originally Posted by Lothic
Again I think you might need to let go of the old "bundle/pack" concept.
Buying items in this game is no longer going to be confined to "collections" of items. |
edit: The store screenshot even says "bundled offers" as one of it's tabs . . .
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You're right, thats what I meant. I just wrote slots instead of trays accidently. Oops :P|
Originally Posted by Chad Gulzow-Man
I think Computer was saying he's excited about largely unslotting an existing character, but I could be reading that wrong.
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Edit: Well trays wouldn't work in that context, but I can see how someone could misunderstand it.
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As revealed in another thread those are like purples: can only slot one set; are BIND ON EQUIP NON-marketable, and are AT specific.
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Originally Posted by Smiling_Joe
I just noticed in the picture on the market that there is a section for crafting. Does that, perchance, refer to the crafting of IO's?
In other words, will you be able to buy recipes from the market? Woot!, if so. But now that you can spend two hero points to get merits and potentially (unless I'm wrong) buy them from the ingame store, doesn't that kind of undercut the current reward merit price of 220-ish for the rares? |
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I said bundle not pack.|
Originally Posted by Lothic
They might offer bundles. But I think what may be more important is that the concept of what used to be called a Booster Pack is going to be replaced by the a la carte concept. Will it really matter if you buy every "mutant pack" item when the very idea of there being a collection of items called a "mutant pack" doesn't really exist anymore?
Like Yoda famously said, "You must unlearn what you have learned."  |
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It wasn't a joke |
Originally Posted by Chad Gulzow-Man
It took me several seconds to realize that was a joke. I'm having a slow day.
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That depends, how much can they charge for an "I win" button?|
Originally Posted by Smiling_Joe
This. Just how easy do we want this game to be, anyway? It's not Progress Quest yet by any stretch, but sometimes it feels that way.
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More new soloable content please. Level 30-50 please. Or at the very least remove the minimum team size restrictions from TFs so I can just run them with a few friends who don't think racing to see who gets to nuke the swarm of blue-cons first = fun. It's become pretty obvious to me that the majority of the player base wants an easier game, so at least give me options for not playing with those people.
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The Paragon Store looks very cool and I have a feeling I'll be using it more than I should. 
(But I *NEED* more character slots and costume slots and super duper inspirations and... )
Anyway, one concern I have is that the description of items to be bought seems a little on the terse side. I would like to see a "More Info" button that brings up a window with more information such as:
- Is item for one character or account wide
- Numeric stats where appropriate, e.g. super inspirations duration/percentages, travel powers's speeds, etc.
- List of power sets' powers, damage types, etc.
- In-store (not just in costume creator) pics of costume parts
- etc.
I can't wait for this to ship!
-Buxley
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I'm gettin' spendy wit' it!
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Originally Posted by rian_frostdrake
ok costume slots are global, time to get spendy
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This. Requiring those of us who want more challenge to solo kind of leaves me cold when new content is bound to the concept of enforced teaming. The removal of team size limits for tf's is one thing I've wanted for a very long time.
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Originally Posted by Eva Destruction
That depends, how much can they charge for an "I win" button?
More new soloable content please. Level 30-50 please. Or at the very least remove the minimum team size restrictions from TFs so I can just run them with a few friends who don't think racing to see who gets to nuke the swarm of blue-cons first = fun. It's become pretty obvious to me that the majority of the player base wants an easier game, so at least give me options for not playing with those people. |
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YES FINALLY. 12 more character slots! I have been hoping we'd get this someday. *Opens wallet, grabs credit card*
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Lisa thinks before she posts...enhancement trays, character slots, costume slots|
Originally Posted by Golden Girl
It wasn't a joke
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Darn, which slots????
Golden Girl are you going to explore more ATs, or are you going to increase your wardrobe?
Either way, Yay
Lisa.
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I want this very badly devs and am willing to pay more then my sub price to get it!!!!!
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Originally Posted by Smiling_Joe
This. Requiring those of us who want more challenge to solo kind of leaves me cold when new content is bound to the concept of enforced teaming. The removal of team size limits for tf's is one thing I've wanted for a very long time.
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I'm not even sure what I use I would have for two more enhancement trays... but I want them.
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Oh so being a vip lets you buy a previously 10$ booster for...10$ and having to use up your 400 points too....Yeeeeaaahhhh.|
Originally Posted by Dr_Darkspeed
Except you get $5 (or $6.88ish) included with your subscription, so if you are a VIP once a month you can buy a full booster pack worth of stuff for roughly $10, or get a free one every 3 months or so.
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I personally totally expect package deals aka a full booster to still cost 10 bucks which would be cheaper then all the points paid piecemeal, which would let a vet buy that booster for 5 bucks as they'd be using their 400pp also.
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Originally Posted by TrueMetal
He will keep them. The Devs have explicitely said that everything you have bought you will keep when you go premium..
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Originally Posted by Aura_Familia
As revealed in another thread those are like purples: can only slot one set; are BIND ON EQUIP NON-marketable, and are AT specific.
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about threefiddy.
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Originally Posted by Eva Destruction
That depends, how much can they charge for an "I win" button?
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Per Month (as we'll be releasing a new "chapter" each month), with the huge caveat that they're included at no additional cost for VIP's. Account wide.
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Originally Posted by InfamousBrad
Are Signature Stories per month or one-time purchase? (I'm assuming per month.) And are they per character or per account? (I'm assuming per account?)
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Andy Belford
Community Manager
Paragon Studios
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We'll be cracking it wide open. Our current plan is for players to be able to purchase an unlimited number of AE Story slots via the Paragon Market.
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Originally Posted by Twoflower
There's one thing, and one thing only I crave from the market.
AE story slots. If they 'crack' the limit on how many purchasable Architect Entertainment story slots you can get, I will craft shutupandtakemymoney.jpg pixel by pixel in MS Paint in thanks. Oh, and they will take my money. All my money. |
Andy Belford
Community Manager
Paragon Studios
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Believe it or not, characters are a rather huge chunk of data to be stored. Remember you have to take into account all of the character data (badges, power, alternate builds, etc, etc, etc) for each and every character. |
Originally Posted by bAss_ackwards
I'm liking the ability to purchase more character slots, but why only 1 more page? Why not let us buy a huge amount of character slots, like the previously suggested 72 slots? With 4 pages, my character list is still going to be dominated by Scrapper Primary/Secondary combinations I want to play. Especially with the new options opened up with the next round of Power Proliferation! I like other ATs too, but Scrapper characters get the priority on space!
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The amount of lines of data that just the badges constitute on some characters is rather staggering.
Andy Belford
Community Manager
Paragon Studios
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I'll get stuff I'll never use, just to supprot the game - and also, beacuse I want to use that bright, fun, sleek and sexy market interface |
Originally Posted by McCharraigin
Lisa thinks before she posts...enhancement trays, character slots, costume slots
Darn, which slots???? Golden Girl are you going to explore more ATs, or are you going to increase your wardrobe? Either way, Yay |
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