Discussion: Find out more about the Paragon Market!
By
Acroyear2,
Posted on: 2011-08-02 10:55 in News, Events and Announcement Discussion
I just noticed in the picture on the market that there is a section for crafting. Does that, perchance, refer to the crafting of IO's?
In other words, will you be able to buy recipes from the market?
Woot!, if so. But now that you can spend two hero points to get merits and potentially (unless I'm wrong) buy them from the ingame store, doesn't that kind of undercut the current reward merit price of 220-ish for the rares?
The Scrappers' Guide to Dark Melee | Kheldian Binds and Strategies
Well, 12 character slots are a day 1 purchase. 7 are earmarked for characters already.
Costume slot purchases as and when.
Enhancement trays, maybe.
Costumes and power sets will be the main thing purchased. Maybe, just maybe, some of the AT-O's for some characters too.
Quote:
It's once a month, during the first maintenance of the month. The first arc, "WHO WILL DIE?" lasts seven months. I'm excited.
|
Originally Posted by Derangedpolygot
I believe they said the signature arcs would change every 7 months(prompting a new purchase for a new arc)
|
There are no words for what this community, and the friends I have made here mean to me. Please know that I care for all of you, yes, even you. If you Twitter, I'm MrThan. If you're Unleashed, I'm dumps. I'll try and get registered on the Titan Forums as well. Peace, and thanks for the best nine years anyone could ever ask for.
Yeah 12 more character slots! 
Now we just need a bigger salvage carry.
Heck going from 10 to 20 on enhancement drops is probably more than plenty for me anyways, but 30? 
I need more recipe room! I mean since we get all this crud from Gabriel.
H: Blaster 50, Defender 50, Tank 50, Scrapper 50, Controller 50, PB 50, WS 50
V: Brute 50, Corruptor 50, MM 50, Dominator 50, Stalker 50, AW 50, AS 50
Top 4: Controller, Brute, Scrapper, Corruptor
Bottom 4: (Peacebringer) way below everything else, Mastermind, Dominator, Blaster
CoH in WQHD
Quote:
But we're not on the Paragon Rewards program yet, are we? |
Originally Posted by NeoGenesis
I get currently get my consumable patrol xp on all toons.
|
I should have taken better notes about the Paragon Rewards based on what I saw at Comic Con, but I think that (and a couple other new rewards) are still account wide, whereas the T9 stuff with the circulating arrows drawn around them are for individual characters.
But no, I've not seen redname commentary specifically on this. I'm going off of memory of what I saw last weekend, which may or may not change prior to the release. And, of course, there was a lot going on, so my memory may be slightly flawed.
Main Hero: Chad Gulzow-Man (Victory) 50, 1396 Badges
Main Villain: Evil Gulzow-Man (Victory) 50, 1193 Badges
Mission Architect arcs: Doctor Brainstorm's An Experiment Gone Awry, Arc ID 2093
-----
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Nethergoat
it's NEVER too late to pad your /ignore list!
|
Quote:
Yes, but the 12 he got 'for free' (ie the standard slots every subscriber gets ) will go away.|
Originally Posted by Benchpresser
If a VIP buys 12 additional slots then goes Premium, do they keep those slots?
|
I'm guessing, but i believe that's the whole reason only VIPS can buy up to 48 slots. Premium players will be able to buy up to 36 and then when they subscribe they will have 48.
@True Metal
Co-leader of Callous Crew SG. Based on Union server.
Quote:
Only one? How about this: |
Originally Posted by Twoflower
There's one thing, and one thing only I crave from the market.
AE story slots. If they 'crack' the limit on how many purchasable Architect Entertainment story slots you can get, I will craft shutupandtakemymoney.jpg pixel by pixel in MS Paint in thanks. Oh, and they will take my money. All my money. |
- The ability to have AE stories have more memory?
- The ability to have branching storylines/moral choices in your arcs?
- The ability to have conditional text, such as text that only displays if specific optional goals are achieved or text that changes based on whether the character is Hero/Rogue/Villain/Vigilante?
- The ability to have more than 5 missions in your arcs?
- Maybe even the ability to set specific spawn points within maps?
Really, I see a lot of money sinks, I mean enhancement opportunities, in MA and having PPs fund it could work.
Z
"I don't have an angel and a devil on my shoulder, I have Rocky and Bullwinkle." - Lore Sj�berg
Quote:
I'm guessing no, based on the wording from the link in the OP. When a VIP drops to premium, they're given a stash of Character Unlock Tokens, which can be used toward unlocking up to 36 slots on a server.|
Originally Posted by Benchpresser
If a VIP buys 12 additional slots then goes Premium, do they keep those slots?
|
You will probably be able to shuffle characters from the last 12 slots around so they appear within the first 36, but that's another guess on my part.
Main Hero: Chad Gulzow-Man (Victory) 50, 1396 Badges
Main Villain: Evil Gulzow-Man (Victory) 50, 1193 Badges
Mission Architect arcs: Doctor Brainstorm's An Experiment Gone Awry, Arc ID 2093
-----
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Nethergoat
it's NEVER too late to pad your /ignore list!
|
Quote:
After reading your post it just occurred to me what having 3 trays of enhancement slots would REALLY be useful for. Sure it'll help when you're playing missions or even working the market. But think about doing respecs and having to swap out huge numbers of enhancements in a build. People have complained for years that having only 10 slots made doing massive respec swapping hard because you could only pull out 10 at a time. Now we'll be able to pull out 30 at a time. Thank goodness for small favors. |
Originally Posted by newchemicals
Heck going from 10 to 20 on enhancement drops is probably more than plenty for me anyways, but 30?
|
Loth 50 Fire/Rad Controller [1392 Badges] [300 non-AE Souvenirs]
Ryver 50 Ele� Blaster [1392 Badges]
Silandra 50 Peacebringer [1138 Badges] [No Redside Badges]
--{=====> Virtue ♀
Quote:
Well, we can dream right? More slots for enhancements would cause a stampede for those. I have several who would love 1 or 2 more.|
Originally Posted by Shadow Ravenwolf
Yes, and the context of the 2 quotes I used makes it look like they think it's 20 more power slots to beef up your character with, not Trays that hold enhancement drops.
|
An extra 10 enhancements to fill in a tray is ok. Its a convience but I usually run out of recipe room before I run out of enhancement space. Too many lost Hammers and revolvers.
H: Blaster 50, Defender 50, Tank 50, Scrapper 50, Controller 50, PB 50, WS 50
V: Brute 50, Corruptor 50, MM 50, Dominator 50, Stalker 50, AW 50, AS 50
Top 4: Controller, Brute, Scrapper, Corruptor
Bottom 4: (Peacebringer) way below everything else, Mastermind, Dominator, Blaster
CoH in WQHD
Quote:
And if you had scrolled down just a little more, you would have noticed someone else already may have said that exact same thing. :P
|
Originally Posted by Necrotech_Master
if you read what it says, it says 10 extra ENHANCEMENT slots for a total of 20 enhancement slots, the purchased 10 slots are account wide
|
SadysCHICK ALL the Badges! (I can get. 1396)
Full image by David Nakayama
Arc ID 1435: Performing without Annette
Arc ID 7206: Sadystic Tendencies
Arc ID 3864: The Chronicles of (In)FERNIA!
Quote:
Ah but here's the question, say a 6 year VIP starts with his original 12, 6 from vet rewards and he's bought 15 slots for a total of 33. Freedom goes live and he buys the 12 available JUST for VIPs. If that VIP then goes Premium, does he still keep those "VIP 12"? He should since technically they are bought slots.
|
Originally Posted by TrueMetal
Yes, but the 12 he got 'for free' (ie the standard slots every subscriber gets ) will go away.
I'm guessing, but i believe that's the whole reason only VIPS can buy up to 48 slots. Premium players will be able to buy up to 36 and then when they subscribe they will have 48. |
"Well, there's going to be some light music and a short note of apology saying, 'The universe ended last week, we're really sorry, we don't know what you're doing here, didn't you get the message?'"- Steve Moffat
This looks very good.
Quote:
"a 6 year VIP starts with his original 12"|
Originally Posted by Benchpresser
Ah but here's the question, say a 6 year VIP starts with his original 12, 6 from vet rewards and he's bought 15 slots for a total of 33. Freedom goes live and he buys the 12 available JUST for VIPs. If that VIP then goes Premium, does he still keep those "VIP 12"? He should since technically they are bought slots.
|
This would be knocked down to 2 if you go premium I believe
Virtue Server Forever !
Pure White Lightning - Level 50 Electric Brute
Purple Drop - work in progress Axe/Shield brute
Blue Icefall - Level 50 Ice Tank
@Blue Lava
Quote:
I wonder about this as well.
|
Originally Posted by KAKTOS
I know the prices are not set in stone but as it shows right now, its pretty high compared to buying a "pack".
Origins Pack had 10 Auras ( $10.00) 5 Capes (6.25) instead of $9.99 for all. |
Sermon
@sermon
One of Six, Cannibal 6
Quote:
No. It would be 2 plus the 2 you got for buying GR (if you did), plus one for each year of you subscribed time, plus one for each one you bought in the store, before or after Freedom launch.
|
Originally Posted by Blue Lava
"a 6 year VIP starts with his original 12"
This would be knocked down to 2 if you go premium I believe |
@Quasadu
"We must prepare for DOOM and hope for FREEM." - SirFrederick
Quote:
Why?|
Originally Posted by Sermon
I wonder about this as well.
|
Buying things a la carte is more expensive than buying them in bundles. This is true in any situation I can think of from tacos and apples to bombs and bombshells.
Quote:
The original poster was asking about siganture characters not story arcs-and thank you for the reply
|
Originally Posted by Djeannie
I thought they said in another thread on this stuff that the signature stories were account wide and you would have to purchase new stories as they were released, unless you're a vip. |
Kohei-Vigilance Committee Founder
"Cowards die many times before their deaths. The valiant never taste of death but once." - Caesar by Shakespeare
AE ARCS: search for Kohei, Vigilance Committee, or...
#365403: Arch-Nemesis Inc.
#130465: The Dark Side of Time
#328975: Power Broker
#159392: Animal Uprising
#70770: Attack of the Bee People
#331282: Universal Evil
Quote:
Then why does his post refer to "Signature Stories?" |
Originally Posted by Kohei
The original poster was asking about siganture characters not story arcs-and thank you for the reply
|
Main Hero: Chad Gulzow-Man (Victory) 50, 1396 Badges
Main Villain: Evil Gulzow-Man (Victory) 50, 1193 Badges
Mission Architect arcs: Doctor Brainstorm's An Experiment Gone Awry, Arc ID 2093
-----
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Nethergoat
it's NEVER too late to pad your /ignore list!
|
Quote:
Yes if you want -all- of what you used to get from a single pack then yes you could pay more for it all in the Paragon Market. But I think it's probably fairly likely that most people only care about some subset of the items in any given pack. This will allow those people to get only the individual pieces they want. Sure ultimately some people will pay more, but other people will end up paying less than they used to as well.
|
Originally Posted by Sermon
I wonder about this as well.
|
Loth 50 Fire/Rad Controller [1392 Badges] [300 non-AE Souvenirs]
Ryver 50 Ele� Blaster [1392 Badges]
Silandra 50 Peacebringer [1138 Badges] [No Redside Badges]
--{=====> Virtue ♀
Quote:
He will keep them. The Devs have explicitely said that everything you have bought you will keep when you go premium.|
Originally Posted by Benchpresser
Ah but here's the question, say a 6 year VIP starts with his original 12, 6 from vet rewards and he's bought 15 slots for a total of 33. Freedom goes live and he buys the 12 available JUST for VIPs. If that VIP then goes Premium, does he still keep those "VIP 12"? He should since technically they are bought slots.
|
In your example the now premium 6 year vet will end up with 2+6+15+12= 35 slots on that server and none on the other servers (assuming he chooses to redeem all his slots on that same server). His original 12 per server will go away and be replaced by 2 character slot tokens.
@True Metal
Co-leader of Callous Crew SG. Based on Union server.
Quote:
Yeah I should have been more specific. Im still sitting here trying to figure out the math to the original question. Im just to brain dead to do it after a long day at work. |
Originally Posted by Quasadu
No. It would be 2 plus the 2 you got for buying GR (if you did), plus one for each year of you subscribed time, plus one for each one you bought in the store, before or after Freedom launch.
|
My interest in the answer to his question has risen some tho
edit - thanks TrueMetal
I was trying to figure out how that would limit it as a premium to 36 or less and couldnt wrap my head around it LOL
Virtue Server Forever !
Pure White Lightning - Level 50 Electric Brute
Purple Drop - work in progress Axe/Shield brute
Blue Icefall - Level 50 Ice Tank
@Blue Lava
Quote:
I understand that but I will have to see what they include in a bundle and at what price.
|
Originally Posted by Chocolate_Bacon
Why?
Buying things a la carte is more expensive than buying them in bundles. This is true in any situation I can think of from tacos and apples to bombs and bombshells. |
Quote:
Except you get $5 (or $6.88ish) included with your subscription, so if you are a VIP once a month you can buy a full booster pack worth of stuff for roughly $10, or get a free one every 3 months or so.
|
Originally Posted by KAKTOS
I know the prices are not set in stone but as it shows right now, its pretty high compared to buying a "pack".
Origins Pack had 10 Auras ( $10.00) 5 Capes (6.25) instead of $9.99 for all. |
Always remember, we were Heroes.
If a VIP buys 12 additional slots then goes Premium, do they keep those slots?
"Well, there's going to be some light music and a short note of apology saying, 'The universe ended last week, we're really sorry, we don't know what you're doing here, didn't you get the message?'"- Steve Moffat