Discussion: Find out more about the Paragon Market!
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Posted on: 2011-08-02 10:55 in News, Events and Announcement Discussion
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Your question is your answer. Current and new characters have account wide perks applied to them. Costume Boosters, the Wisps Aura incentive, and Costume Codes are examples of account wide perks. I see no other way for it to work, unless it is with Certifications, which is the only other account wide mechanic out there.|
Originally Posted by IAmTheRad
I'm a little confused.
It says the enhancement trays are account wide. Does that mean they apply to current and new characters made on the account? |
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| As well with the additional character slots. I did buy for up to 36 slots on a server right now and have 5 veteran reward character slots I can unlock on a server. Will I just need to buy 7 additional slots to get up to 48 on the server, or do I need to go in for the full 12? |
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| Either way, you've got me spending a few dollars at launch. Even with my VIP free points, I doubt it'll be enough for me to buy the additional premium powers and the costume slots and the enhancement trays and the character slots. |
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I assumed Premium players would be able to purchase Monthly Story Arcs as a permanent item. I don't think they've ever mentioned the word Renting when talking about purchasing the new zone or the MSA's.
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Originally Posted by Snow Globe
Follow-up to this, so I can wrap my head around it.
The "which hero will die?" arc is, from information around, going to be about 8 months long. VIPs will have access to the complete stories as long as they are subscribed. Premium players have to unlock them. Does this mean: 1) A premium player can unlock episodes 1, 3, 7, and 8 permanently.-OR- 2) Unlock all available stories for that arc of stories (1-8, after it is "done") for only a month at at time.How you are phrasing that could be interpreted either way... If it is the first, will there be a bundle for each signature arc? |
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As I said, the phrasing is a bit odd and I wanted to have a bit of clarification.|
Originally Posted by bAss_ackwards
I assumed Premium players would be able to purchase Monthly Story Arcs as a permanent item. I don't think they've ever mentioned the word Renting when talking about purchasing the new zone or the MSA's.
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Oh, and I can see one other choice: Are you able to (permanently) buy a Monthly Story Arc bundle of the complete story?
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Originally Posted by Drakos
Ok, this may have been answered before but I haven't seen it so I wanted to ask...
Will players that maintain a VIP account be able to purchase items that they have acces through being VIP but would loose if they go premimum? So lets say as a VIP I have access to all power sets and AT's, but if I drop to premimum I would loose some of these; will I be able to purchase access to these while still maintaining the VIP or would I have to let the account slip into premimum before I can buy them? I ask because I also play another MMO that has the VIP/Premimum/Free2Play model, but VIP accounts cannot buy content granted by the VIP status, they have to let the account slip to premimum first. |
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Originally Posted by Beastyle
the ability to expand your Enhancement holding capacity
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Originally Posted by Zwillinger
Our current plan is for players to be able to purchase an unlimited number of AE Story slots via the Paragon Market.
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Now to hope there'll be a bulk discount on Stories. (And that unfinished Stories no longer show up by default. We don't need even more incomplete/lazy ones drawing off the players' attention and possibly alienating them.)
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If you stopped paying your sub before Freedom you'd lose access to Incarnates too, along with everything else you paid to access with GR.
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Originally Posted by Djeannie
Except, to pick a nit, this isn't true. I bought incarnate access with GR as you MUST own GR to access incarnate content (powers/trials). If I go premium (which I won't be), I lose access to incarnate content that I paid to access.
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Originally Posted by Golden Girl
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Yes, you go ahead and enjoy your arbitrarily imposed and unnecessary limits. I'm pretty sure most of the rest of us will be treating that ***** censorship filter which still includes the word CREY, among other things, as the bug it is and not as a "feature."|
Originally Posted by Twoflower
Way I see it, those who still enjoy stories in AE, like me, like plenty of others, will continue to use it for that. The existence of farms sucks, but they are not going to stop me and won't stop people who want to play good arcs.
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Originally Posted by Super_Corlagon
Now to hope there'll be a bulk discount on Stories. (And that unfinished Stories no longer show up by default. We don't need even more incomplete/lazy ones drawing off the players' attention and possibly alienating them.)
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I'm a little confused about the "not" in the last sentence quoted above from the Paragon Market page. Why is this even mentioned? If the slots are unlocked, it would seem that a level one character would start the game with 6 costume slots (the initial slot plus the 5 unlocked via purchase). Why even mention that they can't be unlocked through in-game missions? It would be a non-issue. The other three would continue to be unlocked via missions from the tailor, and the last one would be available through use of Halloween salvage.| Five More Costume Slots. Your characters can have a maximum of 10 costume slots (including the default first costume slot). These costume slots are accountwide and apply to all new and existing characters. You will not be able to unlock the five new costume slots through in-game missions. |
I'm wondering if this is a typo and the "not" was supposed to be a "now".
Will you be able to purchase 1 new costume slot at a time, or will you have to spend 1600 points to buy all 5 at once?
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Prices are not fully determined as yet, but the Comic Con build had each of the extra costume slots for sale individually.|
Originally Posted by Acroyear2
Will you be able to purchase 1 new costume slot at a time, or will you have to spend 1600 points to buy all 5 at once?
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Originally Posted by Pattern Walker
I'm a little confused about the "not" in the last sentence quoted above from the Paragon Market page. Why is this even mentioned?
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To add to what Chad Gulzow-Man said I think this was their vague attempt to stress a hardwired difference between the original 4 unlockable slots (slots #2-5) and the new slots (#6-10).|
Originally Posted by Pattern Walker
I'm a little confused about the "not" in the last sentence quoted above from the Paragon Market page. Why is this even mentioned? If the slots are unlocked, it would seem that a level one character would start the game with 6 costume slots (the initial slot plus the 5 unlocked via purchase). Why even mention that they can't be unlocked through in-game missions? It would be a non-issue. The other three would continue to be unlocked via missions from the tailor, and the last one would be available through use of Halloween salvage.
I'm wondering if this is a typo and the "not" was supposed to be a "now". |
When you think about it the 4 old extra costumes (the ones earned by the level 20, 30 and 40 missions and the Halloween salvage) were never preassigned to specific slots. This meant for example you could turn in your Halloween salvage for a costume slot and it would unlock the very next slot regardless if that was slot #2, #3, #4 or #5. But none of the new slots (#6-10) can be earned by those methods. The only way those specific slots can be unlocked is via the Paragon Market.
This means that if you use the Paragon Market to unlock 5 costume slots on your account and you make a new character that character will have access to the following slots: #1, #6, #7, #8, #9 and #10. The slots #2-5 are reserved for the old ways to unlock those.
Hope that make some sense.
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I got a question about the Signature Story Arcs.
Are they time limited? I plan to stay VIP, but do the arcs expire when the next arc is released, or can I replay them as much as I want (through Ouroborus or otherwise)?
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I have a question about the market, or maybe two related questions now that I think about it.
The paragon market page mentions buying everything in-game. Does this mean that my purchase of paragon points, and my purchase of paragon items, are totally apart from account management and my account payment method?
Or am I still buying paragon points against my credit card that is on file and the monthly limit on spending therefore still applies?
Or will I, at any time, simply be able to put in a credit card while in game and buy paragon points independent of my billing setup?
My hope is that my credit card I use to pay my sub, which I buy in yearly blocks, can be left on file and unchanged; and that in-game when I have the urge, I can just enter a credit card (same OR different one) and plunk down the cash for 16000 pps or more in one go, just because I want to.
That also makes me wonder if, in the case of having multiple COH accounts connected to a master account, when I buy paragon points, do they apply to the specific account I am on in game or do they push up to my master account, thereby allowing me to spread those 16000 paragon points I just bought in any way I like across my affiliated accounts?
Again, my hope is that I will be able to be able to just enter my credit card and buy a hunk of points without all this monthly limit stuff ($100 by default). I also dont want every little paragon points transaction making activity happen on my credit card. Ive had my card company see 5 or 6 transactions happen and then they blocked my card and had the fraud division talk to me before unfreezing it.
I just want to be able to drop a cool $100 to $1000 on my account in as few actual credit card transactions as possible so that I can just have a pool of points out there to be used by me as slowly or as erratically as my mood dictates, without any hassles. Maybe I will nurse my $1000 over a two year period, or maybe over Christmas I will spend 40000 pps and load up 80000 more. But I dont want my credit card being hit 50 times for $1.25 each followed by $10 & $10 simply because I decided to buy 50 of the new scaling IOs, then decided to transfer 2 characters and rename one all within one hour.
I want to avoid hassles and indulge my whims.
Will this be possible?
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The devs have said that the arcs/missions are things player will be sure to want to play through several times, so that sounds like it'll be a permanent unlock.
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Originally Posted by McNum
I got a question about the Signature Story Arcs.
Are they time limited? I plan to stay VIP, but do the arcs expire when the next arc is released, or can I replay them as much as I want (through Ouroborus or otherwise)? |
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How do you even know it will work that way? Have you tried it? Has a dev said thats how it will work? What if you buy 5 slots and it then shows slots 1-6 open for you and then when you do your first costume mission slot 7 shows up? Maybe you're right and slots 2-5 will be blacked out and slot 6 will show up as your paid for unlocked slot.|
Originally Posted by Lothic
To add to what Chad Gulzow-Man said I think this was their vague attempt to stress a hardwired difference between the original 4 unlockable slots (slots #2-5) and the new slots (#6-10).
When you think about it the 4 old extra costumes (the ones earned by the level 20, 30 and 40 missions and the Halloween salvage) were never preassigned to specific slots. This meant for example you could turn in your Halloween salvage for a costume slot and it would unlock the very next slot regardless if that was slot #2, #3, #4 or #5. But none of the new slots (#6-10) can be earned by those methods. The only way those specific slots can be unlocked is via the Paragon Market. This means that if you use the Paragon Market to unlock 5 costume slots on your account and you make a new character that character will have access to the following slots: #1, #6, #7, #8, #9 and #10. The slots #2-5 are reserved for the old ways to unlock those. Hope that make some sense. |
There are so many people making assumptions in all of these threads based on what they think a dev said due to the way things are worded.
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I think the following speaks well more than 1,000 words on the subject. A fan (Leatherpup) photo of the costume window from Comic-Con:|
Originally Posted by Djeannie
How do you even know it will work that way? Have you tried it? Has a dev said thats how it will work? What if you buy 5 slots and it then shows slots 1-6 open for you and then when you do your first costume mission slot 7 shows up? Maybe you're right and slots 2-5 will be blacked out and slot 6 will show up as your paid for unlocked slot.
There are so many people making assumptions in all of these threads based on what they think a dev said due to the way things are worded. |
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Sorry to be pedantic, but this error in use has become so ubiquitous in the popular vernacular, it bears correction. You should say, "raises the question." To beg the question is to commit a specific fallacy in logic. It is more commonly known as the circular argument, when a premise presupposes the very conclusion it ostensibly leads to. |
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Originally Posted by Snow Globe
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I didn't make a blind assumption about this. After looking at the screen pic several days ago (that Snow Globe was kind enough to dig up for us) I concluded a reasonable educated guess. Yes I may be wrong about this, but that would go counter to the actual GUI presented.
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Originally Posted by Djeannie
How do you even know it will work that way? Have you tried it? Has a dev said thats how it will work? What if you buy 5 slots and it then shows slots 1-6 open for you and then when you do your first costume mission slot 7 shows up? Maybe you're right and slots 2-5 will be blacked out and slot 6 will show up as your paid for unlocked slot.
There are so many people making assumptions in all of these threads based on what they think a dev said due to the way things are worded. |
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And the current usage of beg the question is of the logical fallacy one. Using it in place of 'raises the question' will confuse a fair number of people.
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Originally Posted by Silver Gale
And the original meaning of "decimate" was "to kill exactly one-tenth of", not "to kill most of". If you try to use the first meaning now you'll only confuse people.
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No it won't, because the logical fallacy is referred to as "circular logic". "Begging" means "asking very insistently" and "question" is an interrogative statement made to obtain information. "That makes me really want to ask for a clarification" is a perfectly natural and obvious thing to get out of "that begs the question".
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Originally Posted by Taiyanna
And the current usage of beg the question is of the logical fallacy one. Using it in place of 'raises the question' will confuse a fair number of people.
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More likely it's just a descriptive term used for the mission.|
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