No more fire farms!! The new age is coming

As we all know fire cyborg blah blah crap is a great way to make money, get people lvls, tickets for Random IOs, yes all that is pretty wicked. But here's were ii wouldn't mind changing things up, I have NO idea what to use and when to use in a ss//fire build or what ii am trying to make a fire//fire brute for farming but I have no clue how to use //fire build like when do I use consume When it's up? When I need it ? Do I use burn all the time or only when needed in big groups And which IOs do I need and how should I build for it Build for Fire def or recharge or what OMG!!!!!

So what ii wanna do is find the new farming build..... Why not a ss//dark
Dark has it's own PBAoE and a heal and can just make a farm built for it Wouldn't dark seem little better to play to!.??
Or how about ??//??

Tell me what else every one is thinking about this... Tell me what kind of farming build you would like to see more of, return, of brand spanking new ideas

But to answer your... question(?) barring any nerfs or new sets nothing will overtake /Fire as the premier farmer and here's why:

1. Blazing Aura. Blazing Aura is the highest damage damage aura in the game. It's constant damage ticking away at all times. That automatically puts it above every set that doesn't have a damage aura. That also happens to put it above the sets that do have damage auras. Better farmer = more damage.

2. Burn. Burn adds an enourmous amount of damage. The instant AoE portion is good enough on it's own. The constant burning of the DoT portion not only helps kills the initial targets, it's constantly recycling targets since you're killing enemies and new ones are becoming valid targets.

3. Fiery Embrace. This is really the kicker. FE adds an extra damage proc to every single damaging attack you have. The amount of damage this proc does is calculated by the amount of damage your attack is doing after enhancements and damage bonuses. In fact, even at the damage cap, this proc still adds damage.

No other set can even come close to adding as much damage as /FA. It's not even a contest.

That is not to say that other sets can't farm. You could farm with just about anything. The issue here is that the typical goal of a farmer is to do it as fast as possible. /FA is the fastest set there is, and not by a small margin, therefore any serious farmer is going to use /FA.

Well, if nothing else, I'm sure the provocative title will generate plenty of views.

Lewis

If you want to change things up you can always simply... you know... not farm.

Finding a different kind of farmer doesn't really change things up. It just makes you slower at farming.

Why not learn to play the toon and the strengths and weaknesses of your powers before you start farming in AE?? I'm assuming your goal is to farm +4 x 8, right? You say you don't know when to use consume... or when to use burn.... or what to build for (defense, recharge, etc.)... well, of course, you wouldn't know those things if you haven't learned what works and what doesn't. By saying you don't know how to use fire so you want to find another build, you probably won't know how to use another power set either if you haven't played it before... I'm sorry if I am coming off rude but your best bet is to learn by playing. This game has plenty to offer... try doing something outside of AE farming, you may be surprised.

you might be able to pull some gimmicks like perma FE footstomp with the new /ea or something

umm...this thread made my head hurt...to change things up i went dark/fire/mu brute and im now faster than most farmers with no crash or end issues and i love him, hes a beast. /Fire is still gonna be your best farmer period!

Rage crash is a good time to pop insps, and ageless destiny = infinite endurance.

That's the beauty of SS/Fire, it's very easy to fill in it's weaknesses while it has strengths nothing else can make up for, although some come close. That being said, anything/fire brute will be a beastly farmer because of the points already made. Having a primary with another AoE is just icing on the cake. The best thing you can do while farming is playing what you like, since you'll be doing it a lot you might as well have fun.

Also, this thread title is misleading. I thought fire farms were getting killed.

I'm pretty interested in how /EA will turn out now.

I'm thinking it's got to be greater than 20% recharge when stacked. Just going on what SR and Elec get. 20% recharge boost auto power that's always on, costs no endurance, and has absolutely no downsides whatsoever.

Entropic Aura (?) is a toggle and acts as a taunt. Also, because it's a toggle that effects enemies it will presumably stick to the rooting/shutting down rules. So this power costs endurance and draws aggro to you. It's gotta be somewhere around 50% and up. That's my guess anyway.

*sigh* why dont people get it. Fire cyborg ISNT great for making money. In fact it is hands down the worst farming mish i have come across.

But Neo pretty much said everything that needs to be said. And i actually said this in another thread... NOTHING COMES CLOSE TO FA when it comes to damage. That is why the debate is always the primary powerset never secondary.
But the trade off is that (without IOs at least) it does in fact have pretty much the worst survivability if it cant stop incoming dmg (by killing it) right away.

I have this crazy thought that instead of making numerous threads in the scrapper, blaster, and brute forums asking about farms you actually, I don't know, go play a build yourself and figure it out. As I said in the blaster forum, I will likely have two level 50 farmers that I rolled well after he started asking about farmers before he has one. I do about one run these days when I even do decide to play them. Really, this is a tired act. You don't know how to play a /fire farm build despite it being rather easy to figure out. You don't know how to slot out a SS/fire, or Fire/fire despite starting multiple threads on the issue where people posted multiple builds. FYI, my /fire brutes farm still with SOs as I work my way towards IOing out the builds. Really, it's not that hard. Again, as I said in the blaster thread, all the info you need has been posted. Just use the search function.

okay listen to me really bad SS/FA before you even start farm plop up like 4-8 purps and put on SOs they enchance much better than IOs then once in open the thing put on the blazing aura thing then after that use foot stomp w/ fury lots of minions have fallen at your feet some lieu's then but on burn after that wait for foot stomp then use KO blow on bosses but also before in use rage alot and stack it. once then fiery embrace use that too once your low on end use consume then your farming like a god

now for advice on elec / FA go in pull up all of your shields put up your purps and use LR tele to mob then thunder strike then build up for when your recharged then use every power you can then use consume keep doing this and your and official farmer.but also use burn and blazing aura

FM/FA i think you need to get into the mob then start using fire circle and enchance it. after that use your blazing aura thing to get fury up and then burn then attack the bosses with greater fire sword with fury may pack a punch. then get kinda in front of the mob and use incinerate if your out of end use consume

hope you find this info useful

but if you need other advice on other FA builds tell me on this thread if you wanna feel good inside

and im not new i have been here for four years

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