No more fire farms!! The new age is coming


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Originally Posted by Dz131 View Post
you might be able to pull some gimmicks like perma FE footstomp with the new /ea or something
WTB Fiery Embrace in Energy Aura

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I have a few farmers, and each of them is an experiment after the first real "farmer" I made (which was mostly by accident).


I was on Freedom floating around Atlas as my little WS right after the first round of invasions (my "main toons" are on Virtue, but I had made a character on Union so I could experience the lag, <ahem>, I mean the JOY of the invasions), and I was determined to make a toon and get it as close to 50 as I could before the BIG invasion on Freedom at the end of the invasion period.


I was told by a nice farmer, whose name escapes me now, "if you bring a lvl 1 I'll farm you for free, no level pact!" and as I was told by ANOTHER nice farmer, "tank or brute, SS/fire or elec/fire man, THOSE are the way to make inf, yo" (he actually typed that to me). Since I was in Atlas, I hurredly fashioned a Fire/Elec tank.


Electric Briquette was born.

I had no idea that farming existed really. I was a Victory and Virtue guy; I rarely had been on Freedom. But, the farming was fun! Regardless of whether or not you run people through, there is this personal challenge...

I liken it to golf. You can never get a perfect score in golf. NO ONE makes an 18 on a professional full-length course. BUT, you can try to make your score as low as possible.

In farming, the same applies. There is no perfect farm run. But, you can get as fast a time as possible. THEN there are the other things, like, what farm gets the maximum tickets in the shortest time, how quickly you can get someone from lvl 1 to lvl 12-15 in one run, or even how fast is a "S/L" farm versus a "fire" farm.

And, even on the alleged king of farming, the fire farm, how well did the designer create the farm to limit NON fire damage, maximize the inf/exp to kill ratio from minions to lieutenants to bosses, and utilize the map itself to maximize exp and inf acquisition in the nearest rooms to the zoning point.

I have favorites, as many farmers do, but not because they 'net me the biggest haul' but because I enjoy competing against myself for a faster time, or less damage taken, or more efficient use of Vengeance, or even keeping folks alive longer or better. Heck, my favorite fire farm is one that existed only on the EU servers until the merger, and IT is the fastest way to get the ticket cap. At 0/+6 no less!

I have since spent a GREAT DEAL of influence to make my farmer viable outside of AE. I mean, after all, I wanted those nifty incarnate powers and the low resist to everything BUT fire was destroying me in trials. The stacked debuffs from the Imperious Task Force ripped me to shreds at first (I LOVE that armor). And, I plan to spend a great deal more on him. I want him to be as effective outside a farm as inside.

Once again, I can never win, but I can pit myself against myself.

Since then I have made a spines/dark scrapper for S/L farming, a dark/fire brute for fire farming, and redesigned an elec/shield scrapper for S/L farming as well.

If was really doing this just to farm, I'd stick with one guy and be done with it. But, working through builds on the go is challenging and fun (especially since I don't grok Mids very well).

And, before any of you says it, I KNOW SS/Fire Brute is the current Cham-peen for speed, but I've seen more than a fair few drop during a run because they lost focus at the wrong time and Rage dropped the same time Vengeance did. My tank may not be as fast as a well built Brute, but I don't die in the sea of fire-using beasties just because I looked away for a moment.

But, yeah, had I to do it over again, I'd probably make my Fire/Elec Tank an Elec/Fire Brute. But Electric Briquette is good enough for me!


 

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As we all know fire cyborg blah blah crap is a great way to make money, get people lvls, tickets for Random IOs, yes all that is pretty wicked. But here's were ii wouldn't mind changing things up, I have NO idea what to use and when to use in a ss//fire build or what ii am trying to make a fire//fire brute for farming but I have no clue how to use //fire build like when do I use consume When it's up? When I need it ? Do I use burn all the time or only when needed in big groups And which IOs do I need and how should I build for it Build for Fire def or recharge or what OMG!!!!!

So what ii wanna do is find the new farming build..... Why not a ss//dark
Dark has it's own PBAoE and a heal and can just make a farm built for it Wouldn't dark seem little better to play to!.??
Or how about ??//??

Tell me what else every one is thinking about this... Tell me what kind of farming build you would like to see more of, return, of brand spanking new ideas
I don't recommended Farming AE all the time but if you looking for a Farm build well just about anything can farm, as long you don't die much that is. I Use a SS/Will Power toon with Tier 3 Judgement, Alpha and Reactive.

What will be great too Farm is a Shield/Elec Melee Brute or tanker, I mean with lighting Rd and Shield Charge together, both attacks are heavy AOE Damage Attacks and will clean up the mob fast. like I said anything can farm as long you no how too build your toon, also any mission can be farm outside of AE like Battle maiden Statesman farm or Freak and Demon Farm map missions.


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Well well well...... Not to piss everyone off and send everyone into a big ball of rage..... The only reason ii made this thread was to just see what type of answers I'd get and where it would lead to and see if people would change things up hahahaah

Yes I all ready know why //fire is the best farmin build because of it's great dmg output and tagged with Ss with permanent rage.... Holy even better... But yeahh no I made this thread for no real reason Just to see where it would lead when've But keep going on it's getting good haha


 

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I heard FE does amazing things with AAO.
The best combo is when you're fueled by AAO, you use FE then Shield Charge, Burn, Elec Fences and Ball Lightning, that's how I farm on my Shields/FA Broot


 

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"you guys I was totally ironic"
uh no I wasn't


 

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The best combo is when you're fueled by AAO, you use FE then Shield Charge, Burn, Elec Fences and Ball Lightning, that's how I farm on my Shields/FA Broot
Don't be rediculous.

Everyone knows that the best attack chain of all time is (Fury+AAO)--> FE, Soul Drain, SC, Burn, Clobber, KoB, Crowd Control, Foot Stomp, Lightning Rod, repeat as available.

It's part of that new mix/match brute set that only VIPs with OVER 9000 who are clearly Gone To the Americans will be able to purchase with 1 billion Paragon Points.


 

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ok what's the deal here?


 

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Originally Posted by Dz131 View Post
ok what's the deal here?
You won't be able to use Fiery Embrace with Footstomp on an /EA toon because Fiery Embrace is a power from another secondary.

They're making fun of you because you didn't realize this.


"You don't lose levels. You don't have equipment to wear out, repair, or lose, or that anyone can steal from you. About the only thing lighter than debt they could do is have an NPC walk by, point and laugh before you can go to the hospital or base." -Memphis_Bill
We will honor the past, and fight to the last, it will be a good way to die...

 

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Don't be rediculous.

Everyone knows that the best attack chain of all time is (Fury+AAO)--> FE, Soul Drain, SC, Burn, Clobber, KoB, Crowd Control, Foot Stomp, Lightning Rod, repeat as available.

It's part of that new mix/match brute set that only VIPs with OVER 9000 who are clearly Gone To the Americans will be able to purchase with 1 billion Paragon Points.


sooooo, you're saying i'm already in? SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET!




and on a side note, i have never farmed in this game, of course i have been suffering from a really really bad case of altitis for the last couple of years. I have licked that issue now (it seems, but the stupid devs are putting out new power sets, so we'll see), and i know i can't make money in this game (i think it's a birth defect). so i was thinking i may give this farming thingy a try to kit out my shiny new 50's. wasn't aware that there were still farms available in AE, thought they had nerfed those to heck and back years ago, do folks name their AE farms as such? or are there secret codes and whatnot?


Oh yeah, that was the time that girl got her whatchamacallit stuck in that guys dooblickitz and then what his name did that thing with the lizards and it cleared right up.

screw your joke, i want "FREEM"

 

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My main toon is the best farmer, solo's avs and giant monsters like minions, and can solo most of lambda (can't quite do both sides by myself)

I won't tell you what it is, how to make it, or how to play it.

Play the game yourself and find out.


 

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Originally Posted by Calvin- View Post
I made this thread for no real reason Just to see where it would lead
So you were basically trolling.


 

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Originally Posted by Amy_Amp View Post
So you were basically trolling.
That's kind of what I got out of it.


 

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That's kind of what I got out of it.

or he felt so embarrassed about his post, coping to trolling was the better option....


Oh yeah, that was the time that girl got her whatchamacallit stuck in that guys dooblickitz and then what his name did that thing with the lizards and it cleared right up.

screw your joke, i want "FREEM"

 

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You won't be able to use Fiery Embrace with Footstomp on an /EA toon because Fiery Embrace is a power from another secondary.

They're making fun of you because you didn't realize this.
Oh yeah my mistake. I was thinking what I would be with an assload of recharge and that's the first thing that popped in my head.

so instead of correcting me every just started taking shots?

Its like I'm playing WoW.


 

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Oh yeah my mistake. I was thinking what I would be with an assload of recharge and that's the first thing that popped in my head.

so instead of correcting me every just started taking shots?

Its like I'm playing WoW.
Given the way you reacted, making fun of you is clearly more entertaining. Also I'm not sure anyone takes you seriously anymore.


"You don't lose levels. You don't have equipment to wear out, repair, or lose, or that anyone can steal from you. About the only thing lighter than debt they could do is have an NPC walk by, point and laugh before you can go to the hospital or base." -Memphis_Bill
We will honor the past, and fight to the last, it will be a good way to die...

 

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I doubt anything on this forum should be taken seriosuly


 

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I doubt anything on this forum should be taken seriosuly
And yet.


"You don't lose levels. You don't have equipment to wear out, repair, or lose, or that anyone can steal from you. About the only thing lighter than debt they could do is have an NPC walk by, point and laugh before you can go to the hospital or base." -Memphis_Bill
We will honor the past, and fight to the last, it will be a good way to die...

 

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Best thing to do on any forum anywhere when you make an honest, silly mistake is to just go "oh yeah, derp. i wasn't thinking straight" and then move on. Not get mad back at people poking a little fun for your mistake; it's not like they meant any serious harm or anything.


 

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And yet.
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I think Gob is trying to say that you took the guys making fun of you seriously, then right after that said that these forums shouldn't be taken seriously. Thus, contradicting yourself.


 

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though being able to mix and match powers would be cool... and yet... broken (Champions Online anyone?)



Your character does not have capped defense. Depending on your AT the cap is between 175% - 225%. Your defense is not teal in the combat window, it can go higher. STOP SAYING IT IS CAPPED! The correct term is Soft Cap.
I enjoy playing in Mids. I specialize in Melee Characters, other AT's usually bore me.

 

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hmmm you might not need it but you will definaty find it faster much faster i have done farms like that. you don't need it but it really helps against when all of your aoe's are down on bosses you don't need it but lol i helps lots


 

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uh no I wasn't
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ok what's the deal here?
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so instead of correcting me every just started taking shots?

Its like I'm playing WoW.
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I doubt anything on this forum should be taken seriosuly
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Originally Posted by DarkGob View Post
You won't be able to use Fiery Embrace with Footstomp on an /EA toon because Fiery Embrace is a power from another secondary.

They're making fun of you because you didn't realize this.
Well actually after someone posted 'lol knowledge of powersets fail' and Dz131 responded with 'no u' I kinda thought he had gotten it. Or that he was already trying to be ironic in the first place.

Well that only makes it better, sorry to sound redundant after the post above but...