Time Manipulation, Null the Gull, and VIP Server questions
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Posted on: 2011-07-12 03:56 in Player Questions
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That was then Leandro. My MM is 50+2 now.
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Originally Posted by Leandro
If you're level 45 you are unlikely to have killed all of them unless you were sidekicked up to a group doing Maria's arc. The Gull has been spot on with the AVs I needed to defeat, and it does tell characters something different when they're done.
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I'm sorry you don't understand this. Let me post some screen shots of what I mean but I can't do it now. Check back later.
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Originally Posted by Lemur Lad
Allow you to apply slots to what? I think you're missing some kind of fundamental point here.
Time Manipulation is going to be a new Primary (Defenders) or Secondary (Controller, MM, Corruptor) powerset. Not a Power Pool or Ancillary Pool. I've read through your post and responses on this several times, and the things you're saying just don't make sense. We don't know what kind of Slotting Time Manipulation will need. We do know that in order to get the pool, you have to make a new character. |
Here are the links(look at the yellow markup):
In this one see the 3 slot/enchancement choices?
http://jumbofiles.com/zu3hxrkz4r1z/P...kedup.png.html
In this one, will Time Manipulation be like TP where there are 3-4 choices and then you get to decide what to slot?
http://jumbofiles.com/ihhtvbo7i04v/P...kedup.png.html
Honestly, I would much prefer option one than the latter...unless they up the slots per character for those characters that them.
Ok, but what effect does that have on a character you want to respec now?
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No. It is a primary for defenders, and a secondary for corrs, controllers, and MMs. You cannot respec into it. It is NOT a "pool" power like Teleportation, Super Speed, Leaping, Leadership, et al.|
Originally Posted by Residentx10
In this one, will Time Manipulation be like TP where there are 3-4 choices and then you get to decide what to slot?
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Originally Posted by Aett_Thorn
It's not like you can respec into the new set or anything.
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Originally Posted by Ad Astra
But even if you think that Time Manipulation will be stronger offensively, you won't be able to respec into the powerset on an existing character. Your controller will still have the healer (Empathy??) powerset, even after a respec.
If that's not what you mean (your account will only have one controller at a time) then I'm not sure you understand the respec process. |
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Originally Posted by AquaJAWS
The details of Time Manipulation aren't out yet, but I would expect it to be on par for what other sets 'require' for slots. I wouldn't expect it to be too far out of balance in comparison.
Time Manipulation will be a buff set, meaning it will be available as a secondary for Controllers, Masterminds, and Corruptors, and a primary for Defenders. Direct offensive abilities of the set will be minimal if any at all, outside of buffs to your other powers. Respec in relation to Time Manipulation will have no effect since its a new set and you can't change sets during respecs currently. If you don't enjoy your controller now, Time Manipulation will not have an effect on that, so it shouldn't hurt to delete them, however there's nothing stopping you from having more than one controller, so if you have slots open on the server you want, there's no reason to delete either. |
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It affects the slots, if CoH continues as in the past, you'll never get enough slots...you'll have to give up or make hard choices as what to have what/let go. I'll be able to slot maybe 2 of 4 or 3 of 4 but not all. So I might as well wait and rebuild/respec with full knowledge.|
Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison
Ok, but what effect does that have on a character you want to respec now?
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If I wait and then I respec from the beginning then the powers will work and be fully slotted at the low levels when I play. Do you understand this?
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I understand what your saying here but what is it then? Is this power only for newly created characters?
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Originally Posted by MayorOfAngrytown
You cannot respec into it. It is NOT a "pool" power like Teleportation, Super Speed, Leaping, Leadership, et al.
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Yes, it is a whole new power set. It will be available to new characters only.
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Originally Posted by Residentx10
I understand what your saying here but what is it then? Is this only for new characters?
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Originally Posted by Kinrad
Yes, it is a whole new power set. It will be available to new characters only.
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This has been said several times by others but you don't seem to be getting it. Time Manipulation is NOT a power pool like teleportation. It is a complete powerset like empathy or kinetics. Existing characters will NOT be able to respec into Time Manipulation any more than you can now change your controller from Empathy to Radiation Emission.|
Originally Posted by Residentx10
Here are the links(look at the yellow markup):
In this one see the 3 slot/enchancement choices? http://jumbofiles.com/zu3hxrkz4r1z/P...kedup.png.html In this one, will Time Manipulation be like TP where there are 3-4 choices and then you get to decide what to slot? http://jumbofiles.com/ihhtvbo7i04v/P...kedup.png.html Honestly, I would much prefer option one than the latter...unless they up the slots per character for those characters that them. |
And as far as having enough slots, many powers don't gain any benefit from being 'fully slotted.' To use the MM you posted as an example: the range and recharge enhancements slotted in the the equipment powers are a complete waste.
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The words Time Manipulation are nowhere in those screenshots.
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Originally Posted by Residentx10
Here are the links(look at the yellow markup):
In this one see the 3 slot/enchancement choices? http://jumbofiles.com/zu3hxrkz4r1z/P...kedup.png.html In this one, will Time Manipulation be like TP where there are 3-4 choices and then you get to decide what to slot? http://jumbofiles.com/ihhtvbo7i04v/P...kedup.png.html Honestly, I would much prefer option one than the latter...unless they up the slots per character for those characters that them. |
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Originally Posted by Residentx10
That's not fair
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It was from the start, said to be a Primary for Defenders, and Secondary for Corruptors, Controllers, and Masterminds.
This means you have to make a character starting out with it. Just like with Power Proliferation. You won't beable to respec a Defender into Thermal Radiation or Fire Blast. You will have to make a new character with these abilities.
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Originally Posted by Lemur Lad
The words Time Manipulation are nowhere in those screenshots.
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I'll be leaving soon..I can't keeping grinding new archetypes every semester. I'll level these I have existing now and pull the plug.
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Originally Posted by Residentx10
I'll be leaving soon..I can't keeping grinding new archetypes every semester. I'll level these I have existing now and pull the plug.
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This has about as much relevance to anything you've said as saying "The penguin can't find his shoes."
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Originally Posted by Residentx10
I'll be leaving soon..I can't keeping grinding new archetypes every semester. I'll level these I have existing now and pull the plug.
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An additional examples. In the second build you show, adding defense in hover is a waste. The bonus is way to small. Additional, the flight enhancement in fly is completely wasted. Fly is capped without enhancement.|
Originally Posted by Mr_Morbid
And as far as having enough slots, many powers don't gain any benefit from being 'fully slotted.' To use the MM you posted as an example: the range and recharge enhancements slotted in the the equipment powers are a complete waste.
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As for the prestige runs, I wouldn't waste slots on them. Slot one for end reduction, one for speed, one for stealth (if you can afford the enhancement) and if you feel you must, one for jump. You can then switch between them as needed without wasting slots.
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Putting slots into prestige powers? I'm not sure if I should weep for you, or write this off as trolling, considering the numerous times people mentioned this was an all new Primary/Secondary power set.
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But it's not a new archetype, it's a new powerset for a few existing archetypes. You're confusing several key terminology pieces in this thread.
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Originally Posted by Residentx10
I'll be leaving soon..I can't keeping grinding new archetypes every semester. I'll level these I have existing now and pull the plug.
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And then there's all three 'personal attacks' six slotted when soldiers and commando are only five slotted.
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Originally Posted by Rylas
Putting slots into prestige powers? I'm not sure if I should weep for you, or write this off as trolling, considering the numerous times people mentioned this was an all new Primary/Secondary power set.
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Re: enhancements, the OP wants to know what types of enhancements the Time Manipulation powers will take. We don't know (although you can assume at least accuracy, endurance reduction and recharge reduction). The only people who currently know are the devs (who won't say yet) and anyone who's in I21 Closed Beta (that has started, right?), who are obliged not to say.
Residentx10, I don't understand why you were expecting to be able to respec into this new powerset. Can you respec a Mind Control/Psionic Assault Dominator into a Electric Control/Electric Assault Dominator? No. Were you able to respec an existing Mastermind into Demon Summoning when that came out? No. So why do you expect this will suddenly work differently?
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I must ask... Are you aware that you can place more than one of each enhancement type in a given power? Also, some of the enhancement types you are using are not impacting performance at all or very little. It looks like you just put one of each allowed type into all your powers. This will not be optimal 90% of the time. Your personal attacks would be much better off slotted with one accuracy, three damage, an endurance reduction, and a recharge reduction; that is, if you intend to 6-slot them. As a Masterming, your personal attacks probably don't need as heavy slotting as your pets. And on that note, your pets don't really need their secondary effects enhanced. I'm not very experienced with MMs, but I'd say that slotting them with multiple damage enhancements would probably be a good idea.
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Originally Posted by Residentx10
Here are the links(look at the yellow markup):
In this one see the 3 slot/enchancement choices? http://jumbofiles.com/zu3hxrkz4r1z/P...kedup.png.html In this one, will Time Manipulation be like TP where there are 3-4 choices and then you get to decide what to slot? http://jumbofiles.com/ihhtvbo7i04v/P...kedup.png.html Honestly, I would much prefer option one than the latter...unless they up the slots per character for those characters that them. |
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Originally Posted by Residentx10
I'll be leaving soon..I can't keeping grinding new archetypes every semester. I'll level these I have existing now and pull the plug.
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I'm leaving the game because they keep introducing new content?
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Honestly, if i indulged the urge to do a headdesk i get every time i see Rx10 quoted i'd probably understand his point of view by now. Assuming i hadn't already died of a cerebral hemorrhage.
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Originally Posted by Ironblade
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Good news! If those screenshots were any indication (and if we ignore the double negative here), I think we might have a guess as to why your controller is not able to "pull her weight in the incarnate game"!
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Originally Posted by Residentx10
1. My controller can't not pull her weight in the Incarnate Game. She needs stronger more offensive powers.
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