Have We Seen The Last of Non-Incarnate Powersets?


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Originally Posted by Johnny_Butane View Post
No, but I'll be very interested in seeing them provided they're not another weapon set, marital art or derivative of a set we already have (Dark Control, Earth Blast*).


*Not that I don't want to see more conceptual proliferation, see what I posted before about the subject, but it hardly gets me hyped.



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Personally i'm rather fond of the marital arts.
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We have more powersets in the works.
Thanks for the confirmation.


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with the supposedly much larger development team and budge
Uh dude, they just laid off a big chunk of the staff after GR came out.


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Looking forward to Snot Blast and Shoe Manipulation!


 

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Originally Posted by Positron View Post
We have more powersets in the works.
Awesome!
Cant wait for the staff set!
Now, please, go take a look at this thread:

http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=261666

And please tell us you going to consider our feedback and fix the aesthetic Incarnate stuff price MADNESS before it is too late.


 

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Originally Posted by Johnny_Butane View Post
No, but I'll be very interested in seeing them provided they're not another weapon set, marital art or derivative of a set we already have (Dark Control, Earth Blast*).
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-Power Armor Blast. With beam weapons, drunk missiles, pop up chaingun, etc.
Isn't this a weapon set?


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We have more powersets in the works.
Cool. Whats the estimated number of Incarnate merits required to unlock them?


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Originally Posted by Dr_Darkspeed View Post
Cool. Whats the estimated number of Incarnate merits required to unlock them?
Oh, I laughed so hard.
Bravo sir. Bravo.


 

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Originally Posted by Positron View Post
We have more powersets in the works.
AWESOME!!! Thank you very much!


 

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Holy smokes, there are people that know about BraveStarr?
Haven't seen that since last time.


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No, but I'll be very interested in seeing them provided they're not another weapon set, marital art or derivative of a set we already have (Dark Control, Earth Blast*).


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*snicker*

EDIT: And I see someone beat me to it.


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And I see someone beat me to it.
I saw it, but just this once I rather some other dirty mind point it out.


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Originally Posted by Arcanaville View Post
Isn't this a weapon set?
No, clearly it's a weaponS set.


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Personally i'm rather fond of the marital arts.
I'll bet Kin Melee really gets some people humming. Always been a lot of buzz about it.


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Originally Posted by Dr_Darkspeed View Post
Cool. Whats the estimated number of Incarnate merits required to unlock them?
Something tells me it'll be a lot less funny when it comes true.


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Something tells me it'll be a lot less funny when it comes true.
Well, maybe not powersets, but the Devs have commented on wanting to make later Epic ATs require something other than a level gate...

I know they said requiring fifty was a mistake, so I think that honestly does rule out Incarnate locked EATs, it's just that my faith in the devs is going on a bit of a downward spiral.


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just to bump this up a bit, one thing that was ticking in my head today at work is that im not sure we need so many new powersets as we need new power customization options, both in the pools and the existing mains, and a few more epics. as it stands, a new powerset is largely a mechanical thing, whereas what johnny has described is something that could be accomplished mostly with existing powers with more thematic re-skins. i am, and will continue to be, an enthusiastic supporter of more animations, customization options, and finally getting to epics, pools and the like. i think that would address more players needs with less extraneous balance issues than futzing around making cantaloupe blast and snowshoe melee because jack kirby dropped acid one day.

i often mention wanting a control set that uses the labels and paper dolls of a Japanese onmyoji. rather than making a thematically limited new control set, make new animations for gravity or some mechanically Germane set and just let me sub in the animations to look like im tossing the Japanese magic stuff. other stuff too like wands/staffs for blasts to make a wizard, or elemental ray guns, or heck, a guitar for sonic blast. you could make a new set and have it become an outlier, or just use the mechanics we have and let us alter the existing sets in such a way to give us thematic breadth.


 

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Originally Posted by Positron View Post
We have more powersets in the works.

Can you please both confirm and deny that Water Control is one of them?


 

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Originally Posted by Oedipus_Tex View Post
Can you please both confirm and deny that Water Control is one of them?
Didn't one of the Devs say recently that for water control to "look right" it would require Ultra Mode and that because of this they didn't want to do it? I could swear I remember reading that somewhere.


 

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New animations would definitely go a long way toward freshening up existing powersets. Dual Pistols, in particular, could stand to have the more staid handgun animations from the MM set ported over.

Since the powers are already partially in the game, I'd think creating a Whip Melee set (Scrappers, Stalkers, Tanks, Brutes) would be the lowest-impact powerset. A quarter of the set is already there. A level 32 power of Dual Flailing Bullwhips would be awesome, too.


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Didn't one of the Devs say recently that for water control to "look right" it would require Ultra Mode and that because of this they didn't want to do it? I could swear I remember reading that somewhere.
Actually it was one of the UStream chats but you are exactly right. The Dev team said that any time a powerset or FX would require Ultra Mode just to look right would be a idea-killer. They just won't consider it (rightly so).

Personally, I'm hoping for something along these lines-

1) Radiation Melee/Armor (lots of "splash damage" and maybe -Regen as a secondary effect?)

2) Multiplicity (with the introduction of the 'reflections' tech in the new Posi TF, how cool would it be to have a MM set where you summon versions of yourself?)

3) Insect Command (could be a control/assault set with 'blasts' looking like streams of flying bugs, immobs/holds being bugs bursting up from the ground, DoTs, etc)

4) Plant Armor (LOTS of regen and PBAoE sleeps/slows etc)

5) Arcane Defense (a mix of Defense and active ways to disrupt attacks like a Placate without the Crit function, maybe even AoE abilities like a Bubble or a Flash Stun?)




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A level 32 power of Dual Flailing Bullwhips would be awesome, too.
Dual Energy Tendrils is something I've thought would be a great power set for a long time.
The people who animated the hellfire whip attacks for the MM set would probably implode if they tried it, though.



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