Doctor Who 30/4/11

OMG!

That is all.

Use proper date references!

The Doctor was clever there.

And also just a tiny bit nasty.

But definitely clever.



Also:


OMG indeed.

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Awesome. Also, WTF?

ok own up who rushed off to see if the name Time Head was taken ??

The Silence have turned out to be a pretty massively disappointing enemy. They didn't really do anything in the past 2 episodes except be there and be all scary.

That last scene however...

I am actually shocked and surprised.

That was just, the most surreal episode ever.
Also, the Silence are awesome, they may not have done anything, but it's clear they're up to something.

I love the way they played mindgames in that episode.

The end of that episode has left the seeds of a theory in my head as well:
The Doctor from the beginning of the last episode wasn't the Doctor at all! He was someone else, with a regeneration that looked exactly like the Doctor's current appearance. Who it is or how that could work, no idea. But I'm going to stick by it, if only because I like the idea for now.

Zoinks!!!!

I thought that this was a good episode as well as the first episode, BUT....
-I got a strong feeling this wasn't the first encounter with the Doctor from the Silience's point of view, nor their last.
-They kind of made a huge jump from the last episode to this one, I would've been fine with a three part just to flesh the story out more, to cover up the missing parts.
-Related to the above, I got a feeling there is a lot more going on, than we're aware of, that will be covered later
-Still kind of wondering about the girl, and the hints we have of her identity, that is there is a picture of a baby being held by Amy, presumably Amy holding her daughter, who is the girl, and latter we see the same girl, regenerating like a Gallifreyan.<side note, an idea for a future companian, the Doctor's Daughter from the 10th Doctor era>\

OMG! Amy gave birth to a Time Lord!

Does it bother anyone else that the Doctor just began the genocide of the Silence?

With that, and the gunfight at the end of the episode, this felt more like an episode of Torchwood than Doctor Who. The Doctor I know didn't kill things, and didn't let his companions go nuts with firearms, and tried everything he could to avoid genocide. This entire two-parter just felt wrong to me.

It is more of a game of russian roulette than actual genocide. How many people have actually seen the Moon Landing? As time passes, more and more people will not see the Moon Landing. So it amounts to will that human kill me due to him watching old historical footage or will he act as a normal human will. The safest thing would be to avoid all human colonies, but there could be human colonies that are easily influenced and won't kill them until some visitor comes along.

I liked this series opener very much. I didnt mind the jump in the middle, they basicly explained it through a flashback of them leaving the warehouse and then when they are all together again, stating that it sounded like the Doctor allowed himself to be caught to allow the companions to roam for 3 month to gather information.

One thing to think about, though Amy in the picture is holding the child, nothing says that Amy is the mother, i have pictures of my friends and family members holding my kids when they were babies. Also keeping in mind that if you count on some type of resemblence between the girl and amy, the same could be said for a resemblence between Amy and River.

They seemed to need the girl for something though, and they had amy as a captive for like 4-5 days not mentioning anything that could have been done to her during that 3 months prior. I am also finding that Moffar rarely introduces things he doesnt plan to use again. So in the first episode relating the story that a time lords body would be a sought after prize, and going out of the way to have a gallon of gasoline brought in and a boat and to spend the screen time showing the fire, i am thinking more some type of genetic manipulation that the silence for hold of cells from the Doctor, and maybe stole an egg or two from amy when she was captured to harvest a gallifrian clone/test tube baby.

I have a sneaking thought that this new timelord is going to show up again and not be noticed. We have obviously seen that age seems to not be a factor when regenerating so this girl could come out the otherside as anything.....like perhaps River.

In the immortal word of Dr Song, spoilers:

My gut reaction is that this first two-part episode was too much foreshadowing, and not enough self-contained plot. I get that Moffat is setting the table for an entire season, but watching those two episodes didn't really leave me wanting more; it left me wondering why it had to be two episodes in the first place.

Then again, I was a little distracted while watching tonight, so I might have missed something. For instance, it's not clear to me exactly what anyone gained by going through the capture charade at the beginning of part two. At first I assumed that the Silent had brainwashed the authorities against the Doctor and crew, but then it became clear that Nixon was on the Doctor's side throughout. So was it just the official-looking dudes at Area 51 who were, for no obvious reason, intent on capturing the Doctor? If so, how'd they hook up with our friend the disgraced former FBI agent? If getting Nixon to visit the top-secret base and exonerate the Doctor worked later, then why didn't the Doctor do that in the first place? For that matter, what narrative purpose was served by that bit of the episode?

Don't get me wrong; the chase montage made for an interesting atmosphere to open the episode, and in general I'd have to say that the way in which the Silent were portrayed was impressively creepy -- but the pacing seemed off, purposelessly frenetic, and the plot scattered.

As for the revelation at the end, again I find myself kind of numbed. Maybe by that point I'd overdosed on all of the obviously yet-to-be-addressed foreshadowing that came before. I've lost track of the loose ends in these two episodes, the eventual tying of which we're supposed to anticipate with 'bated breath. I guess it doesn't help that the last, biggest loose end Moffat thrust on us was a reminder of another unresolved loose end from before Moffat took over (the other Doctor's Daughter). For all I know, this latest ersatz Time Lord is related to the other Doctor's Daughter in some way, and this is Moffat's nod to that other loose end -- but that reminder, coming on the heels of such an orgy of foreshadowing left a bad taste in my mouth.

Or, more correctly, an ambivalent taste in my mouth. "Tastes like literary chicken."

I'm also not sure I dig the whole reversed-timeline-relationship thing with River Song. It was a neat theory, and made for a poignant parting scene for the Doctor and River in this episode -- but as the concept is fleshed out it seems to me less and less plausible that the relationship will reach a sensible conclusion. If what we've been led to believe about Song is true -- at the very least, that the Doctor shared his name with her, which is apparently a very big deal -- then the relationship seems to be moving way too slow. And yet, oddly too fast at times; the Doctor went from pointedly questioning River's trustworthiness in this season's opener to flirting with her like a man ****, to acting all awkard in that last scene when she kissed him for the first/last time.

I don't know. This is all speculation, but I get the feeling that River's knowing the Doctor's name will turn out to be a cop out, some sort of extraordinary circumstance wherein he had to tell her his name to save the universe from the Macguffin du jour. Or the writers may handwave a lengthy romance as having occurred between episodes when they want to get rid of River. Or I could be giving them too little credit altogether.

(Also, we know of at least one future instance in which the Doctor sees River out of order: He has to give her his screw driver before she goes to the Library to get pixellated in the computer. That one little inconsistency isn't a big deal by itself, but it does lead me to question the over-arching premise of the relationship, and the reliability of what we see of those two on screen -- and come to think of it, the poignancy of the last kiss scene in this most recent episode.)

Sorry for rambling.

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