Say, what's magical in Praetoria?

Weren't the words that they "like to think he died a happy clockmaker?"

Then again, who really needs Praetorian Nemesis when Nemesis Rex, exalted ruler of an alternate Earth, would do just fine?

The magic in Praetoria is YOU!

WARNING: I bold names.

So, in summary, Nemesis dies innocuously on Praetorian Earth. Nemesis did not incite war with the Rikti against Praetorian Earth, the caves of the CoT are undisturbed by Rikti so no sudden influx of the Circle in Praetoria. A big source of magic is the Hamidon in Praetoria against whom Emperor Cole is warring, therefore, he pins his success to reducing magic users in Praetoria with a competent Azuria. And, that nasty bit of magic use in Praetorian Croatoa has been devoured by the Praetorian Hammi...

So ... to unleash another force against Cole, the Resistance and Midnighters from Primal Earth are going to bang the gong in Praetorian Orenbaga and run like heck with demons following them to Nova Praetoria to present Praetor White with a big surprise.

That could... that could actually work.

The other thing I pondered... Devouring Earth are partially magical?? I thought they were mutation to the extreme.

Oh and Dark Astoria was devoured in Praetorian Earth, too.

Paragon City was called Shroud City on Praetorian Earth, and was destroyed by nukes - so it'd probably look alot like the ruined city zones that were in the original Praetorian arcs and the comics

Isn't it stated in lore that a majority of magic users in the world are at least distantly related to Mu?

What if the CoT didn't back down at the last minute and spare some of them? After that it's not hard to guess that the literal deal with the devil they made turned out poorly. And they either ended up like our CoT, trapped, or were wiped out completely.

With the primary sources of magic in the world extinguished, maybe magic as an origin is just very weak or underused in Pretoria.

That's all my own fantasy, but it does wrap it up nicely. The origins are not universal aspects. As far as I can gather from the lore, the origins are all paths that lead to "power" in the most general sense. Your origin determines how that power manifests in the world, how you tap that power, what your limitations and strengths are. Our world found five paths to power. But that doesn't mean other worlds followed the same routes.

Though I would like to know what makes something become an origin... Is it like gravity? Where it exists all the time everywhere, and it some process or event starts happening often enough or... something. It creates a "Power Gravity Well" that eventually hits critical mass and becomes an origin? Like a star igniting. According to that theory, the Well itself is some kind of massive black hole of power that's become self aware.

...Ok that got kind of ranty.

Back at Hero Con 2009, it was mentioned that Tyrant and his Praetors "work magic - sometimes literally" to keep the people of Paretoria "safe".

Well I'd say Syndicate have magic users, if only because they are made up of elements of the Tsoo from Praetorian earth. The syndicate, some of them, ahve some pretty nifty little powers so if anyone has magic, it's them.

Also the Carnival of Light, though they really don't show up so far outside of De'Vore in the resistance base, I really hope they do though, I want to see light carnies running around helping the resistance!

What I meant to say was: The way I read your previous post was that if I read up on the story, I'd find a clear revelation that the Will of the Earth was magical, which isn't what I found in the story arc, which was in turn consistent with what I remembered from the arc from the last time I ran it. Are there implications that there might be a magical component to the Will? Yes, even if they are vague and hanging, but they exist, I'll admit that much.

However, going from a possible minor magical component in the Will of the Earth to the Hamidon being the source or sink of all magic is too much of a leap for me to accept without evidence, which don't exist in current storyline. Yes, something made the Hamidon of Praetorian Earth more powerful than the Hamidon of Primal Earth. This doesn't prove anything, as something clearly made Nemesis Rex more powerful than our Nemesis, what with him ruling his entire world and multiple other dimensions. Something also apparently made my double from that dead world dimension powerful enough to destroy the entire world and kill all people on it.

Before, we'd have simply chalked that up to different dimensions. These days, the resident deus ex machina that is the Well of the Furies tends to be used as "plot glue," but the storyline seems to be adamant that THAT isn't magic, but rather some kind of abstract power which empowers all origins, so that doesn't work, either.

The only thing we're left with is our own conjecture, which really just strikes me as bad writing. I can live with magic not being prominent in Praetoria if its existence in the wider game universe were at least acknowledged. For instance, what's wrong with having random people remark how magic isn't real and ghosts don't exist and "Are you crazy?" You know, the same way "magic" is being treated in the real world - with suspicion and disbelief. It would at least tell me that the writers were aware that magic existed elsewhere in the game and have at the very least acknowledged its absence. Such isn't the case.

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Originally Posted by Arcanaville Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

Hmm, out of curiosity, Praetorian Infernal doesn't really show up in the 1-20 space, does he?

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Yep, he doesn't , Sam even mentioned that in the OP.

Please point at laugh at me.