Incarnate Rare and Very Rare components


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If you guys are trying to burn up hundreds of billions of Inf on Prestige, surely you don't mind dropping a bil or two on someone who promises to flush it down the Component sink? You could require screenshots to prove they will really use it up on Components and not put it right back on the market.

(Personally, I'm good, I have a couple billion between my 50s, and I can always run some Tips and gather up Hero Merits for more.)
No thanks, I'll just get purples and other high end loot.
The 100,000,000 one isn't bad but 400,000,000...that's getting close to Apocalypse or so on range (~500,000,000) and I'd rather get a purple that works all the time than a slot that works at the top levels.

The 2,500,000 + Thread sink is great though, use it constantly.


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If you buy xp, or pay to create the rares and ultra rares, you're just plain dumb. by the time you have the xp for all of the slots, you'll have most of what you need to craft.


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If you buy xp, or pay to create the rares and ultra rares, you're just plain dumb. by the time you have the xp for all of the slots, you'll have most of what you need to craft.
I'd agree that paying for the iXP is kind of dumb. It's so quick to run through a few trials to get them that it's almost pointless to have that option. It was clearly put in as a concession to all those "soloers" out there. But this thread has nothing to do with iXP.

If the Random Number Generator doesn't give you the Rare of Very Rare incarnate component drops you need then buying them becomes a viable option. For example I've run probably 50 trials on my main and have only gotten 2 VRs so far. To craft the other T4s I wanted I bought the VRs I needed. *shrugs*


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Being dumb got me to have 4 T4s. If I was a smart person, I would have only 2 T4s. I'll stick with being dumb.


 

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Being dumb got me to have 4 T4s. If I was a smart person, I would have only 2 T4s. I'll stick with being dumb.
This.
I buy all my slots then I fill them from Lore to Destiny to Interface and Judgment. This makes me able to contribute best as quickly as possible.


 

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Being dumb got me to have 4 T4s. If I was a smart person, I would have only 2 T4s. I'll stick with being dumb.
I agree. The best route for rares and very rares seems to be to grind for most and to pay for some.


 

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If you buy xp, or pay to create the rares and ultra rares, you're just plain dumb. by the time you have the xp for all of the slots, you'll have most of what you need to craft.
So certain are you. I've run well over a hundred trials, and only found ONE very rare. Makes it rather hard to build the tier 4s.


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If you buy xp, or pay to create the rares and ultra rares, you're just plain dumb. by the time you have the xp for all of the slots, you'll have most of what you need to craft.
You should retract this.


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I'd agree that paying for the iXP is kind of dumb. It's so quick to run through a few trials to get them that it's almost pointless to have that option. It was clearly put in as a concession to all those "soloers" out there. But this thread has nothing to do with iXP.
Yeah, I ran some trials. Then I got tired of running trials. So I paid for my iXP. Dumb? Maybe. I dunno, I think I'd be dumber to run trials I'm tired of again and again just for another 10% iXP toward a power I can have now without ever running another trial.


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Yeah, I ran some trials. Then I got tired of running trials. So I paid for my iXP. Dumb? Maybe. I dunno, I think I'd be dumber to run trials I'm tired of again and again just for another 10% iXP toward a power I can have now without ever running another trial.
Sure there's the idea of avoiding content you don't like to do. But if it takes say 10 or 20 trials to quickly collect the threads and components you need to actually craft the incarnate powers you want are you really saving yourself that much time buying iXP that you easily earn the first few times you run those trials anyway? Unlocked incarnate slots mean nothing if you don't have the threads to do anything with them. *shrugs*

I simply don't see the argument that anyone would actually "save" any significant time whatsoever by buying iXP. Maybe the strict soloer is happy with that opportunity, but for the 99% of the rest of us buying iXP is just pointless.


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So apparently some people are not getting any Rare or Very Rare components from the Incarnate trials. They have piles of Uncommons and Threads, but they balk at the price tag. A hundred million? *Four* hundred million? Surely the only way to get that kind of money is to either farm until your eyes bleed, or pay a RTMer!
I totally feel you. I have done the BAF 100's of times. My fave 50 just turned 50 before i20 came out. I have all 3 tiers on the new incarnate stuff slotted but my poor alpha slot can not get shards and I've tried, searched the zones, broadcast on multiple chat channels, and can not seem to find anyone else willing to do the wsf or itf for shards.

Even though I have a little over a billion (total on all my 50s) I don't want to spend almost HALF of it on one tier 4 piece. I worked so hard to save up that much and it took so much time! I've been on this game almost a year.

In that year I've gotten 3 purple recipes and one purple incarnate componant in the new trials. and if it goes by effort... I NEVER SLACK, I ALWAYS FIGHT MY BUTT OFF!

This is so bad for me right now. I watched my friend get 2 purple recipes 2 days in a row, and countless purple recipes since we've been playing together. Me - THREE - in a year!

I wish the drops were more fair. it makes me want to quit. I'll never get ahead. a little luck is needed to get ahead because it simply CANT be done without it.... UNLESS YOU CHEAT...it just really can't be done without luck. I'm an active player. NOT A CASUAL PLAYER. 3 PURPLE RECIPES IN A YEAR, ONE PURPLE INCARNATE DROP. whenever a team mate gets a purp I want to cry.... it's really starting to get to me like making me feel singled out. I'm just SO unlucky in this game that I have to wonder if I pissed a dev off or something. I mean when you start thinking like that it's not a game anymore... IT'S TIME TO TAKE A BREAK OR FIND A (rewarding) GAME.

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It is imminently possible to "get ahead" in the normal game without either grinding farms, being magically granted a state of grace by the evil random number generator, or (the true evil) tainting your very soul by dealing with the odious RMT spammers.

There are very simple guides telling you how to make a quite comfortable income with very little investment of time here in the market forums. Pretty sure I've seen a couple of them linked in sigs on this very thread. If I'm wrong, here's a link to a whole bunch of 'em:

http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=123346

Read one of those, spend 10 minutes every few days playing the market, and soon you, too, will be an ebil marketeer casually throwing hundreds of millions around to buy purples. No cheating involved, just supply something that other people are willing to pay you for.


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3 PURPLE RECIPES IN A YEAR
That's about what I get.

Now for the question: Do you want sympathy or do you want help?

We can teach you to make a lot of money fast. (TF, hero merit, recipe, inf.)

We can teach you guaranteed ways to get shards. (raid, grai matter, shard.)

But if you're not enjoying the game, aside from the rewards, we can't teach that.


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I wish the drops were more fair. it makes me want to quit. I'll never get ahead.


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a little luck is needed to get ahead because it simply CANT be done without it....


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UNLESS YOU CHEAT...


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it's really starting to get to me like making me feel singled out. I'm just SO unlucky in this game that I have to wonder if I pissed a dev off or something.


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Sure there's the idea of avoiding content you don't like to do. But if it takes say 10 or 20 trials to quickly collect the threads and components you need to actually craft the incarnate powers you want are you really saving yourself that much time buying iXP that you easily earn the first few times you run those trials anyway? Unlocked incarnate slots mean nothing if you don't have the threads to do anything with them. *shrugs*
You need 60 threads to put something in a slot, assuming you get no common component drops. That's like three trials, not 10 or 20. Run a fourth, buy up the rest of your iXP, get a shiny new power, stop grinding. I'm never going to see a very rare unless I get lucky or a less grindy way to get them is introduced. I'm 40 threads away from a rare because I got lucky, otherwise I'd never see one of those either unless a less grindy way to get them was introduced.

Then there is also the "I want my shiny new power now because it will help me on the trials" aspect, especially with Judgement and Destiny. Even a common in one of those can be very useful on the trials.


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So certain are you. I've run well over a hundred trials, and only found ONE very rare. Makes it rather hard to build the tier 4s.
It's RANDOM!

In approximately 40 successful runs of the trials, from the day they were introduced up until yesterday, I got two Very Rares. Last night I got *THREE* Very Rares.


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It's RANDOM!

In approximately 40 successful runs of the trials, from the day they were introduced up until yesterday, I got two Very Rares. Last night I got *THREE* Very Rares.
Yes indeed, it is random. And if the run is against you, the ONLY recourse you have is to a) keep beating your head against the wall and hope the run evens out, or b) spend the influence at the rapacious rates to build what you need. Neither is a particularly good choice.


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I've been playing trials every night since they started

0 VR drops

I'm not spending money to buy them

I don't think the empyrean merits are awarding correctly either. I've done missions after the 20 hour cooldown and not recieved them.

And I just thought to add, every one of my 4 slots is sitting there maxed out with tier 3's cause I keep making them. I've really got nothing else to make.


 

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Man, I burnt SO much influence. I am just filthy rich and wasteful. Here. Lemme show off a little.

Here's a partial list of people that I helped with their bases in the last year or two, by burning influence. 23x helped a few of these people also.

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It sometimes makes me wonder if we can only ever get so many VRs.

Moreover, I can't help but wonder if there's some kind of activity requirement (like medical school, where they only give out so many As, Bs, and down the line) and it depends on how much killing you've done, how many times you've died, or anything like that.

I'm running into a wall here, too, and it's making me lose interest in playing all together. If there's a system beyond random, I'd dearly like to know what it is because I'm tired of working hard and getting screwed!


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It sometimes makes me wonder if we can only ever get so many VRs.

Moreover, I can't help but wonder if there's some kind of activity requirement (like medical school, where they only give out so many As, Bs, and down the line) and it depends on how much killing you've done, how many times you've died, or anything like that.

I'm running into a wall here, too, and it's making me lose interest in playing all together. If there's a system beyond random, I'd dearly like to know what it is because I'm tired of working hard and getting screwed!
Okay, A for actually taking the time to search in the forums for whether a topic has come up before. F for not actually paying any attention to the post date, forum, or indeed content of the thread.

In answer to your question: No, there is no system for getting a specific rarity reward table, it's random. There is an activity check, but it only measures whether you get 10 threads table or a random rarity reward table. There is some data suggesting that achieving badge requirements may improve the chances of better rolls for the whole League.

You can get the Rares and VRares with Emp Merits, and the benefit of T4 over T3 is really not proportionate to the cost. T4s are a long-term goal for competionists.

Getting a Common or Uncommon reward table is not "getting screwed", it's "not winning the lottery".




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Also, something very important to note in relation to this thread is that the Inf prices have been divided by four over what they were when this thread was previously active. A Rare piece of Incarnate salvage can be created using 100 Threads, one of each Uncommon salvage, and 25 million Inf (this was originally 100M Inf.)

If the RNG is being unkind to you (and I'm fairly confident, based on a lot of parsing of my own reward logs over around 600 trials that it really is random), I think the above method or spending Empyrean Merits are both reasonably accessible methods for getting a Rare component to craft a Tier 3 ability. However, if you are having bad luck and want Tier 4 abilities, I recommend you use the above Threads/UC/25M method to create rares, and save Empyrean Merits to create Very Rare components.

As mentioned, though, bear in mind that VRs, while sometimes nice, are not usually nearly as much nicer as they are harder to get though just about any method.


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