Trial Staging Map

This is what the game needs right now. We need a map specifically for players to go to gather into leagues for the trials. Currently the RWZ gets used for this the most, and it shows in constant multiple instances. Players trying to enter an RWZ instance to meet up with their league often can't because it gets full too fast. Two or more leagues trying to form in the same instance leads to a lot of frustration. It's worse on nights someone is running a mothership raid. Pocket D is getting used to a lesser extent, but isn't a better answer.

I suggest the devs come up with a simple map for us to stage our assaults on Praetoria. It needn't be fancy. Just large enough to accommodate a lot of players at once, and be co-op accessible. Perhaps a seperate map off of the RWZ Vanguard compound. Or a place reachable by portals in PI and Grandville. Or both.

This way, the RWZ can return to being used for MS raids, LGTFs and such.

Probably a good idea...I've seen people setting up as deep as Cim the other day...although the Midnighter's Club is seeing heavy usage as well now. But purpose built zone wouldn't interfere with any other content.

This. It doesn't have to be a massively elaborate map. And, because people aren't going to be brawling in the map, you could possibly get away with a higher user count than regular zones where you're expecting combat.

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This is a helpful idea, but I think what they really need to do is to find a way to allow the trial to start when everyone is in a different zone.

If they can whip up a Trial Staging area in the meantime, that would be great, but I think their long term goal should be to eliminate the requirement to be in the same zone.

Get Teleport Power to Vanguard Staging Outpost, contained within the depths of Praetoria. Central room with portal back to primal, and large rooms off there for gathering for various trials.

Want to run for a Lambda? Go to the Lambda Briefing Area and wait around. Maybe some tactical wall images with basic hints and tips, city train map style.

BTW, I *hate* using Midnighter's for staging, as cool as it may be. It doesn't have an insp seller and it seems to have a low zone cap.

Back in the GR beta, when the devs said that Primal Earth avatar would eventually be let into Praetoria, I suggested using the rift portal Underground map that Resistance players use to escape to Primal Earth as


I suggested using the rift portal map as part of the Vanguard forward base that Dark Watcher mentions at the end of the Warden path to be the "holding area" for Primal Earth avatars going into Praetoria as part of the Vanguard forward base that Dark Wtcher says they're going to set up at the end of the Warden path - it'd be accessible from any Vanguard office, and instead of the Vanguard portals taking you straight to the RWZ, there'd now be a choice of going to the RWZ or Praetoria.

They've already used it in a similar way for when we got to Praetoria at the end of the Tin Mage TF - they just need to make it a mini zone, add some Vanguard and Resistance NPCs, and it'd be ready to go.

Has anyone successfully used the LFG queue to form teams? Isn't that what it's supposed to be for, kinda? Just announce "Lambda forming, enter LFG queue to join." Does it not work that way? Then you wouldn't have to be in the same zone at all, is there a time limit for the first part of the trial, or can you wait until you're full to start?

I also think that the habit of team-builidng from the past 7 years is hard to break - one or more players decide to do a task, they invite others until they have a minimum or larger team size, and then start the task.
The idea of the game making a team for you is very new for CoH, and I think quite a few people still prefer to get invites from other players, or to do the inviting, rather than let the game do it for them.

For the most part, I'm fine with randoms. All the preforms I've been on have been the open casting-call style; ie, respond to announcement, get on team, team fills, trial starts. The main problem with letting the turnstile handle the teambuilding is that it starts the trial as soon as it has the minimum for the task at hand. Lambda with 8 random people gets really tricky during the sabotage stage.

If you were with a hand-picked 8 people, sure, or the max 16 and random, sure, no problem. But 8 random people, with random ATs...not so much.

TuT PuG BAF teams can work. If I do not see stuff forming anywhere, I will take that option. You may or may not compete but you can usually get a couple astrals at least. PuG Lamda's are 8 man teams and have little chance.

The first problem with PuG Baf's is getting the person with league star to see that they have league star and usually panic and pass it.
The low numbers can work for you, but the AT mix is the other problem. They can be done, though.

Couldn't we use Studio 55 as a temporary gathering place?