Who is this great and mysterious god-like figure?
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Posted on: 2011-04-07 18:00 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
Prometheus. You can talk to him in Oro.
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Is he, though? I have doubts now.|
Originally Posted by Furio
Prometheus. You can talk to him in Oro.
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I thought so in Beta, but the captions said some things that make me wonder.
IIRC, on the BAF when explaining about how Siege and Nightstar have to be dropped simultaneously in the last phase the captions say something like "Splice found out that Siege and Nighstar have a blah blah blah..." or something similar.
Um, so Prometheus is tight with the Resistance Crusaders? And he gets his intel from Splice? That doesn't read right to me. In light of that, it makes me think it's Calvin Scott in the captions.
Until that point, I assumed it was Prometheus. The text color was a big hint. But that line and a couple of others don't seem right coming from him.
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He also says he has lots of contacts that he won't reveal to us. Who knows who those contacts are *or* who those contacts actually think they're reporting to. Appearing as something other than their normal form is SOP for members of the Greek pantheons.
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Could it be that the great and all powerful giant man of blue is actually the leader of the members going against the evil tyrant, using the Resistance to his advantage so his legacy could live on or some other ingenious plot the mighty blue one may be planning?
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This is where something more interesting than my global and this sentence would be.
So you think that there might be some plotting going on at the Ouroboros Citadel?
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It's Nemesis. DUH!
I agree, it seems like it should be Prometheus, or we are made to think so.
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Originally Posted by Johnny_Butane
Is he, though? I have doubts now.
I thought so in Beta, but the captions said some things that make me wonder. IIRC, on the BAF when explaining about how Siege and Nightstar have to be dropped simultaneously in the last phase the captions say something like "Splice found out that Siege and Nighstar have a blah blah blah..." or something similar. Um, so Prometheus is tight with the Resistance Crusaders? And he gets his intel from Splice? That doesn't read right to me. In light of that, it makes me think it's Calvin Scott in the captions. Until that point, I assumed it was Prometheus. The text color was a big hint. But that line and a couple of others don't seem right coming from him. . |
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He's a ham-handed plot device invented because no one over there could think of a better way to get us into these encounters other than having a walking deus ex machina say "go. hunt. kill praets."
As if our characters would care about him being a god in any case. "Oh, you're a god? There are three in my supergroup, and there's the 17 I was just drinking with in Pocket D, not counting the 29 guys each claiming to be the son of Satan...you'll have to get in line."
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Ancient Spirits of Evil....
of course it's Mumra
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Originally Posted by Venture
He's a ham-handed plot device invented because no one over there could think of a better way to get us into these encounters other than having a walking deus ex machina say "go. hunt. kill praets."
As if our characters would care about him being a god in any case. "Oh, you're a god? There are three in my supergroup, and there's the 17 I was just drinking with in Pocket D, not counting the 29 guys each claiming to be the son of Satan...you'll have to get in line." |
I actually believe that Prometheus is Dr. Manhattan, but got yelled at by the other omnipotent beings for always forgetting to wear his shorts. I haven't read a single myth that stated that there was blue greek gods.
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Yes yes, but how many of them were Incarnates? You have to keep things in perspective, here.
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Originally Posted by Venture
As if our characters would care about him being a god in any case. "Oh, you're a god? There are three in my supergroup, and there's the 17 I was just drinking with in Pocket D, not counting the 29 guys each claiming to be the son of Satan...you'll have to get in line."
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Ugh, yes. It boggles the mind how the only way to justify the trials was adding a new mysterious character to tell us what to do, as if we don't already have enough of those standing around with their arms crossed.|
Originally Posted by Venture
He's a ham-handed plot device invented because no one over there could think of a better way to get us into these encounters other than having a walking deus ex machina say "go. hunt. kill praets."
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I mean couldn't they have had Lady Grey organize the trials as part of the counter-offensive in the war? We had to have a giant smurf descend from Olympus to guide us on our way?
Hell, they could even had us organize the trials, as if our characters decided on their own volition to organize themselves into several teams and go over to the other side to take on the praetorians; I mean, we even just appear outside Lambda and the BAFT, no group drops us off. the voice-over could just have been the omnipresent narrator.
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Originally Posted by Venture
He's a ham-handed plot device invented because no one over there could think of a better way to get us into these encounters other than having a walking deus ex machina say "go. hunt. kill praets."
As if our characters would care about him being a god in any case. "Oh, you're a god? There are three in my supergroup, and there's the 17 I was just drinking with in Pocket D, not counting the 29 guys each claiming to be the son of Satan...you'll have to get in line." |
Dear Giant Blue Embodiment of Ancient Greek God,
Please get a longer toga.
Signed,
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This was actually what I've been assuming is happening - I haven't "had time" to go stop by Ouroboros to listen through that weird new guy's rants, and when on a raid I don't exactly have time to catch the non-league/team chatter that isn't in a cutscene, so to me it really has just been a gang of superpowered beings deciding to take the fight to Praetoria.|
Originally Posted by Crimson Vanquisher
Hell, they could even had us organize the trials, as if our characters decided on their own volition to organize themselves into several teams and go over to the other side to take on the praetorians; I mean, we even just appear outside Lambda and the BAFT, no group drops us off. the voice-over could just have been the omnipresent narrator.
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And I've liked it that way. :3
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Originally Posted by Carnifax_NA
Dear Giant Blue Embodiment of Ancient Greek God,
Please get a longer toga. |
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OK, try this on for size: a Vanguard task force in which the players are sent to look into some energy readings that might be due to unauthorized interdimensional travel. Their investigations uncover a group of Praetorian sympathizers -- native Primals -- aiding and abetting some of Chimera's forces in making covert snatch-and-grab raids. They've been grabbing random people off the streets as dry runs, testing Primal security. The operation is shut down as a result of the TF, but the victims have all been sent to the BAF, where they've been mindwashed and dressed up as supers (given devices to simulate powers dangerous enough to be a threat to the public but weak enough to be easily smacked down by Powers Division). Doing the TF unlocks the BAF trial for your character, which continues more or less the same except with the fake "Primal supers" instead of Resistance.|
Originally Posted by Mr_Squid
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Now, this ties into the Chimera/Mom storyline, it gives us some themes to play with in the sympathizer faction, it gives Primals a reason to be engaged with the BAF (which they currently do not have, ham-bluehandedness notwithstanding) and it gives a reason why taking out the BAF is a job for a team of supers and not an air strike.
Tell me with a straight face this wouldn't have been better than what we have.
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It would have been different. I'm not sure better applies.|
Originally Posted by Venture
OK, try this on for size: a Vanguard task force in which the players are sent to look into some energy readings that might be due to unauthorized interdimensional travel. Their investigations uncover a group of Praetorian sympathizers -- native Primals -- aiding and abetting some of Chimera's forces in making covert snatch-and-grab raids. They've been grabbing random people off the streets as dry runs, testing Primal security. The operation is shut down as a result of the TF, but the victims have all been sent to the BAF, where they've been mindwashed and dressed up as supers (given devices to simulate powers dangerous enough to be a threat to the public but weak enough to be easily smacked down by Powers Division). Doing the TF unlocks the BAF trial for your character, which continues more or less the same except with the fake "Primal supers" instead of Resistance.
Now, this ties into the Chimera/Mom storyline, it gives us some themes to play with in the sympathizer faction, it gives Primals a reason to be engaged with the BAF (which they currently do not have, ham-bluehandedness notwithstanding) and it gives a reason why taking out the BAF is a job for a team of supers and not an air strike. Tell me with a straight face this wouldn't have been better than what we have. |
And Praetoria's invading. What more possible reason would you need to go there and kick some Praetor tail?
"Be a beacon?"
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Originally Posted by Venture
Now, this ties into the Chimera/Mom storyline, it gives us some themes to play with in the sympathizer faction, it gives Primals a reason to be engaged with the BAF (which they currently do not have, ham-bluehandedness notwithstanding) and it gives a reason why taking out the BAF is a job for a team of supers and not an air strike.
Tell me with a straight face this wouldn't have been better than what we have. |
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Hey, if Venture likes it it's automatically better. If he doesn't it's just a bunch of stuff that happened.|
Originally Posted by Blue_Mourning
It would have been different. I'm not sure better applies.
And Praetoria's invading. What more possible reason would you need to go there and kick some Praetor tail? |
Venture is the objective standard by which all subjective opinions about storytelling are measured.
i mean, sure, the Praetorians attacking Primal Earth is all the reason most of my characters would need to take the fight back to Praetoria, but that lacks the Venture panache. Heathen.
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The BAF is self-apologetically a poor target.
| And Praetoria's invading. What more possible reason would you need to go there and kick some Praetor tail? |
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He's not really a new character. Prometheus appeared in the Top Cow run of the CoH comics. The FP needed his help, he dinna want to help on account of Statesman being sorta the guy that chained him to a mountain with a vulture ripping out his liver every day for eternity...so Manti "killed" States to convince Prometheus to help them.
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Originally Posted by Crimson Vanquisher
Ugh, yes. It boggles the mind how the only way to justify the trials was adding a new mysterious character to tell us what to do, as if we don't already have enough of those standing around with their arms crossed.
I mean couldn't they have had Lady Grey organize the trials as part of the counter-offensive in the war? We had to have a giant smurf descend from Olympus to guide us on our way? Hell, they could even had us organize the trials, as if our characters decided on their own volition to organize themselves into several teams and go over to the other side to take on the praetorians; I mean, we even just appear outside Lambda and the BAFT, no group drops us off. the voice-over could just have been the omnipresent narrator. |
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"So come and get me! I'll be waiting for ye, with a whiff of the old brimstone. I'm a grim bloody fable, with an unhappy bloody end!" Demoman, TF2
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Not a "poor" target. He said it wasn't his first choice of target...there's a difference. There's still military value in preventing enemy intel efforts.
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Originally Posted by Venture
The BAF is self-apologetically a poor target.
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"So come and get me! I'll be waiting for ye, with a whiff of the old brimstone. I'm a grim bloody fable, with an unhappy bloody end!" Demoman, TF2
Of course, I'm talking about the blue captions. Who's saying them?
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This is where something more interesting than my global and this sentence would be.