... I'll have to reread the other four or be lost entirely.
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I decided to borrow the audio books in MP3 format from my local library website. I figure by the time Im done listening to all of them it will be July and Ill be ready|
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... I'll have to reread the other four or be lost entirely.
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'bout fricken time.
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Too late, in my case. It's been so long, I've lost interest in the series. I could go back and reread the previous books in order to refresh my memory, but I no longer have any desire to.
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Originally Posted by NarfMann
'bout fricken time.
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It's the greatest fantasy series ever written; I can wait for GRRM to finish it. He is not my *****, after all.
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great, now that he's done with this he can get off his butt and call his publisher and DEMAND THEY RELEASE ACES HIGH IN E-BOOK FORMAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
then he can go back to doing...... whatever else he's doing that i don't care about.
Oh yeah, that was the time that girl got her whatchamacallit stuck in that guys dooblickitz and then what his name did that thing with the lizards and it cleared right up.
screw your joke, i want "FREEM"
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Actually I have emailed him asking him about this and he replied saying .. and I quote|
Originally Posted by Traegus
great, now that he's done with this he can get off his butt and call his publisher and DEMAND THEY RELEASE ACES HIGH IN E-BOOK FORMAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
then he can go back to doing...... whatever else he's doing that i don't care about. |
"I don't have any control over the publisher and how they distribute my books in e-book format. Quite frankly, I dont even own a Kindle."
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Finally, I can stop checking http://www.isadancewithdragonsoutyet.com/ and being disappointed. Can't wait!
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Actually I have emailed him asking him about this and he replied saying .. and I quote
"I don't have any control over the publisher and how they distribute my books in e-book format. Quite frankly, I dont even own a Kindle." LOL |
GGGGGYYYYYAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
damn him, damn him all to heck. i've waited years to get my hands on the wild card books, and finally they release them in e-book format, but somehow forgot number 2, they put out 1,3,4, and 5....... i was livid when i finished 1 and couldn't find number 2.
Oh yeah, that was the time that girl got her whatchamacallit stuck in that guys dooblickitz and then what his name did that thing with the lizards and it cleared right up.
screw your joke, i want "FREEM"
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Worst thing is, I started buying ebooks before I even owned a Kindle or iDevice - I read them on the computer!|
Originally Posted by Traegus
GGGGGYYYYYAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
damn him, damn him all to heck. i've waited years to get my hands on the wild card books, and finally they release them in e-book format, but somehow forgot number 2, they put out 1,3,4, and 5....... i was livid when i finished 1 and couldn't find number 2. |
And while he might not have control, if his publisher has any respect for him, him asking about could probably help.
Try sending an email to the publisher.
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It's the greatest fantasy series ever written; I can wait for GRRM to finish it. He is not my *****, after all.
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Still glad that fans of the series have another book: wouldn't want them to be in the same boat that Robert Jordan fans are. Even if Brandon Sanderson is doing a good job with the last books so far.
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To be fair, I often wondered how Jordan could get so off track with his books as they seemed to meander and have too many subplots and so forth, and then I found out he was busy trying not to die and knew why he seemed distracted in his writing.
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Originally Posted by Grey Pilgrim
Blech, begging to differ in so many different ways. There are interesting things to the series, of course, but greatest? No, sir.
Still glad that fans of the series have another book: wouldn't want them to be in the same boat that Robert Jordan fans are. Even if Brandon Sanderson is doing a good job with the last books so far. |
This means I'm going to have to reread the series and cringe every single time he annoyingly uses "of" when he should've used "'ve".
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Robert Jordan
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HBO, or his publisher were probably kicking his butt to get it in gear.
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I do wonder how much it was his health issues, and how much it was his lack of self-editing. His books picked up too many characters and too many sub-plots right around the time he had enough of them out (and successful enough) that a publisher probably wouldn't tell him to trim some things out. Sad to say it, but many publishers are in it for the cash. They won't turn an eye to many fine writers out there, but once one is successful, it's hard for them to not want to try and milk their cash cow.|
Originally Posted by Knight_Marshal
To be fair, I often wondered how Jordan could get so off track with his books as they seemed to meander and have too many subplots and so forth, and then I found out he was busy trying not to die and knew why he seemed distracted in his writing.
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I think JK Rowling was on the path of not being sharply edited enough, but really did a good job with her sixth and seventh books, either because of her own impetus, or an editor that was willing to work on it with her.
It's kind of a pity, because I would more strenuously argue for WoT being one of the best fantasy series if it had kept with the approach it had in the first five books. I like the characters and overall storyline after, but overall movement in the storyline slowed down a lot after that point.
Sorry to derail in a Martin thread like that.
Overdoing it with a multiple book series seems common, though. Jordan did it, Orson Scott Card did it with the Ender books, and there are plenty of other authors out there doing it as well. Hopefully Martin got things to where the series needed to go, rather than padding things out.
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You will have to double check it on July 12th to make sure it really did. I know I will be.
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Originally Posted by Beastyle
Finally, I can stop checking http://www.isadancewithdragonsoutyet.com/ and being disappointed. Can't wait!
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With regards to Jordan, whatever the reasons, after book 5, he seemed to have lost focus on the series, Sanderson has done an excellent job so far in finishing the series, and contrasts that with the Dune series where Herbert's son and his co-author have murdered the franchise.|
Originally Posted by Grey Pilgrim
I do wonder how much it was his health issues, and how much it was his lack of self-editing. His books picked up too many characters and too many sub-plots right around the time he had enough of them out (and successful enough) that a publisher probably wouldn't tell him to trim some things out. Sad to say it, but many publishers are in it for the cash. They won't turn an eye to many fine writers out there, but once one is successful, it's hard for them to not want to try and milk their cash cow.
I think JK Rowling was on the path of not being sharply edited enough, but really did a good job with her sixth and seventh books, either because of her own impetus, or an editor that was willing to work on it with her. It's kind of a pity, because I would more strenuously argue for WoT being one of the best fantasy series if it had kept with the approach it had in the first five books. I like the characters and overall storyline after, but overall movement in the storyline slowed down a lot after that point. Sorry to derail in a Martin thread like that. Overdoing it with a multiple book series seems common, though. Jordan did it, Orson Scott Card did it with the Ender books, and there are plenty of other authors out there doing it as well. Hopefully Martin got things to where the series needed to go, rather than padding things out. |
Martin's delay hasn't been health related so far( although he is reaching that age where it is a possibility), I'm not sure if its him getting writers block, becoming disinterested in the series or whatever. He has been busy on other projects, but the annoying part is, after 6 years it seems almost like he has deliberately not been working on the series. I do hope Martin, his family, and his publisher have made arrangements for completing the series if he is unable to, maybe to the next Brandon Sanderson.
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The delay seems to have been caused by:|
Originally Posted by Wooden_Replica
Martin's delay hasn't been health related so far( although he is reaching that age where it is a possibility), I'm not sure if its him getting writers block, becoming disinterested in the series or whatever. He has been busy on other projects, but the annoying part is, after 6 years it seems almost like he has deliberately not been working on the series. I do hope Martin, his family, and his publisher have made arrangements for completing the series if he is unable to, maybe to the next Brandon Sanderson.
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1. The story getting bigger in the telling. Specifically, his original plan was to skip the story forward after A Storm of Swords about five years. As he started that book, he realized that he was telling too much stuff in flashback, and decided to simply tell the story of those five years. A Feast For Crows was simply what he got done first.
2. Figuring out to get characters from one place to another. Related to #1, he didn't have to actually plan out how characters got from one place to another in those five years. Once he decided that he would actually tell the story, the logistics of actually moving the characters in place in relation to the timeline became problematic.
3. Other projects. Can't blame the guy for not necessarily wanting to work on the same thing 100% of the time when he has other things he likes to do, like writing other things and editing.
4. The upcoming Game of Thrones TV series. He approved each of the main castings, wrote one of the episodes, and has been involved in the publicity.
5. Getting married.
6. Going to conventions/watching football/having a life.
I don't begrudge him any of the above, just glad the book has a real release date.
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I just finished re-reading the first four books, so this is good timing for me. I have really enjoyed the books so far. It is nice to see a fantasy series with complex characters instead of the classic stalwart adventuerers vs. Great Evil plot.
I haven't gotten into the Jordan series . . .
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I don't begrudge him not devoting 100% of his time in the last 6 years on it, but it would've been nice if he had at least dedicated a little more of his time in it than he has even if its only 20% of his time. Or at least to have found a co-writer to work with on it
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Originally Posted by RosaQuartz
The delay seems to have been caused by:
1. The story getting bigger in the telling. Specifically, his original plan was to skip the story forward after A Storm of Swords about five years. As he started that book, he realized that he was telling too much stuff in flashback, and decided to simply tell the story of those five years. A Feast For Crows was simply what he got done first. 2. Figuring out to get characters from one place to another. Related to #1, he didn't have to actually plan out how characters got from one place to another in those five years. Once he decided that he would actually tell the story, the logistics of actually moving the characters in place in relation to the timeline became problematic. 3. Other projects. Can't blame the guy for not necessarily wanting to work on the same thing 100% of the time when he has other things he likes to do, like writing other things and editing. 4. The upcoming Game of Thrones TV series. He approved each of the main castings, wrote one of the episodes, and has been involved in the publicity. 5. Getting married. 6. Going to conventions/watching football/having a life. I don't begrudge him any of the above, just glad the book has a real release date. |
from his site for those interested...
DRAGON TIME
No. Sorry. Not done yet.
I'm close, though. Watch this space. When the book is done, you will read it here.
Meanwhile... there is news. Big news. The end is in sight, at long long last, and we're close enough so that my editors and publishers at Bantam Spectra have set an actual publication date.
A DANCE WITH DRAGONS will be in your favorite bookstore on
TUESDAY, JULY 12, 2011
Yes, I know. You've all seen publication dates before: dates in 2007, 2008, 2009. None of those were ever hard dates, however. Most of them... well, call it wishful thinking, boundless optimism, cockeyed dreams, honest mistakes, whatever you like.
This date is different. This date is real.
Cant wait !
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