Where is PC located Geographically?
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Posted on: 2011-01-31 14:10 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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No. The more urban areas of Talos feel like Downtown Seattle; you're surrounded by buildings but can see the ocean if you look down main street.|
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I've never been to Seattle, but that seems far fetched. Never been to Milwaukee, but I'm pretty certain it doesn't look like Steel Canyon...
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As far as Milwaukee, look up some images. Again, it may be just me but that's how I feel!
I could also liken Steel Canyon to Houston but... the projects in Steel aren't as scary.
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Originally Posted by Zekiran_Immortal
It seems so very far north on that map.
And we get so very little snow in Paragon. |
You have numerous hundreds (or possibly thousands) of superhumans with the ability to control the weather.
At least SOME of them might hate snow.
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I grew up near Milwaukee, and I never got this feel from Steel Canyon. Steel Canyon seems in much better shape and just, well, bigger (height and area), than Milwaukee has ever been during my lifetime.|
Originally Posted by Nalrok_AthZim
As far as Milwaukee, look up some images. Again, it may be just me but that's how I feel!
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Nova Praetoria really reminds me of Washington, D.C., though, particularly the area around Pennsylvania Avenue between the Capitol and 14th Street or so. Government town, I guess...
The Imperial City strongly reminds me of California, especially San Diego.
Some of the less beat-up parts of the Rogue Isles remind me of New Orleans.
But, as someone's already said, there's probably a City of Heroes analogue to pretty much everyplace somewhere, if you look hard enough.
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he he, glad to see I'm not the only RI resident who plays this game.
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Originally Posted by MaHaBone23
Having lived in Providence for 10 years and Rhode Island currently, I'll take Paragon any day.
Not that Providence is all that bad, but the mutants, Ghost ships, giant monsters, alien invasions and zombie outbreaks would be a small price to pay for no snow, potholes or traffic. |
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I agree with this. Took a recent trip there, and I was like "Woah, totally reminds me of Praetoria."|
Originally Posted by Olantern
Nova Praetoria really reminds me of Washington, D.C., though, particularly the area around Pennsylvania Avenue between the Capitol and 14th Street or so. Government town, I guess...
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And Kings Row reminds me of Baltimore and my home city Detroit.
Here's a shot of Austin- the bridge designs and city layout remind me of Founders Falls.
Wow, Rhode Island's coastline points almost due south ... In order for it to have the shoreline necessary for Paragon City, it would need to steal and occupy that eastward-protruding part of Massachusetts.
Is there anything in the lore about the Rhode Island/Massachusetts War? 
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I remember once postulating that you could replace Cohasset Harbor with Paragon City. That's in Massachusetts though, so I guess Rhode Island on Primal Earth is a little different than from our world.
Plus, you know... "Cohasset"... get it?
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Parts of Paragon remind me of my hometown.|
Originally Posted by Zekiran_Immortal
Not much of it, since many parts of Praetoria remind ME of downtown San Diego. Neon trim on buildings, very pretty indeed.
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... Unfortunately, those parts are Kings' Row and Crey's Folly.
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If memory serves, MA was originally two separate colonies, one centered around Mass Bay, and the other around Plymouth( which is that SE portion of the state), on Primal Earth its possible Plymouth was joined with RI instead of Mass Bay.|
Originally Posted by Mallerick
Wow, Rhode Island's coastline points almost due south ... In order for it to have the shoreline necessary for Paragon City, it would need to steal and occupy that eastward-protruding part of Massachusetts.
Is there anything in the lore about the Rhode Island/Massachusetts War? |
Another possible explanation is that the ancient war between Orenbega (sp) and the Mu may have altered the coastline a bit.
As to why they chose RI, my guess its a reference to Happy Harbor, RI the fictional town where the original Justice League HQ was, and yes it is sad I actually know this.
Jack is a big Lovecraft fan - which can be seen in the art direction of CO - so he might have wanted to have the game set in "Lovecraft Country".
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Originally Posted by DumpleBerry
It's an alternate universe Providence, Rhode Island. In this dimension/universe, Providence was able to successfully economically transition from the whaling industry into other and more profitable venues, becoming (effectively) the New York City of Primal Earth.
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That's not the "Ocean," that's the Puget Sound.
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Originally Posted by Nalrok_AthZim
No. The more urban areas of Talos feel like Downtown Seattle; you're surrounded by buildings but can see the ocean if you look down main street.
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I'd say Boomtown reminds me of San Antonio.....
Gawd I hate it here.
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There were obviously Time Lords involved in the construction of Paragon City. I mean, have you seen the Terra Volta Reactor area? There is more space around the reactor than could possibly be contained by the force field surrounding it. When we apply this knowledge to the rest of the city, Paragon might only be one cubic foot in size, once you leave.|
Originally Posted by DumpleBerry
It's Providence, Rhode Island, even though the square mileage of Paragon City probably exceeds the square mileage of the actual state of Rhode Island.
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Originally Posted by SpaceNut
Keep in mind that there was a giant volcano that erupted in the Rogue Isles in the early 1800s - the resulting tsunami could easily have reshaped the coast of RI and would explain why Paragon City became the dominant east coast city instead of NYC.
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On the video screen inside the Vanguard Base there are photos that have various Lat/Long coordinates. For example, the screenshot of the Mothership has coordinates 41 33 20 n 71 29 39 w. Cut and paste that in Google Maps and you get an idea of where at least one dev thinks Paragon City is located.
while the real RI is the smallest state, maybe some perspective here, RI is Providence + Providence Metro area to a huge extent. In terms of metro area's its not in the same league as maybe NYC, LA, Atlanta, or Chicago in size, its about the same as any other medium sized metro area. Also some of the metro area does stretch into MA( ie Attleboro). So I can see, how the in game PC could fit in the state, more so if you assume Plymouth Colony was combined with RI instead of Mass Bay Colony.
The one thing I have always thought would be great is if we had an Issue called World Tour, where two maybe three new zones are introduced( PC International Airport, RI International Airport, and maybe a Preatorian Imperial Airport), where your sent on missions across the Globe( with a lot of new mission maps), and get a get an idea how the rest of Primal Earth( and maybe Preatorian Earth) are different from our own. For example, on Primal Earth, maybe there was no Restoration, and Britian is still a republic, or the US had taken Canada during the War of 1812.
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Cool idea with Primal Earth.|
Originally Posted by Wooden_Replica
while the real RI is the smallest state, maybe some perspective here, RI is Providence + Providence Metro area to a huge extent. In terms of metro area's its not in the same league as maybe NYC, LA, Atlanta, or Chicago in size, its about the same as any other medium sized metro area. Also some of the metro area does stretch into MA( ie Attleboro). So I can see, how the in game PC could fit in the state, more so if you assume Plymouth Colony was combined with RI instead of Mass Bay Colony.
The one thing I have always thought would be great is if we had an Issue called World Tour, where two maybe three new zones are introduced( PC International Airport, RI International Airport, and maybe a Preatorian Imperial Airport), where your sent on missions across the Globe( with a lot of new mission maps), and get a get an idea how the rest of Primal Earth( and maybe Preatorian Earth) are different from our own. For example, on Primal Earth, maybe there was no Restoration, and Britian is still a republic, or the US had taken Canada during the War of 1812. |
Not so great idea for Praetorian Earth. I mean, anywhere you go will be like zoning into the Abyss.
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Originally Posted by Wooden_Replica
The one thing I have always thought would be great is if we had an Issue called World Tour, where two maybe three new zones are introduced( PC International Airport, RI International Airport, and maybe a Preatorian Imperial Airport), where your sent on missions across the Globe( with a lot of new mission maps), and get a get an idea how the rest of Primal Earth( and maybe Preatorian Earth) are different from our own. For example, on Primal Earth, maybe there was no Restoration, and Britian is still a republic, or the US had taken Canada during the War of 1812.
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In some way or another, I'd like to see more of Primal Earth. Dimension hopping is fine and exciting, but what else is out there in Primal Earth's dimension? What's the west coast like? What's Paris like, or Ireland? What's New York City like on Primal Earth? How about the Antarctic, the Sahara, or the Amazon?
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As someone who has lived in 16 states, and three different countries (and been exposed to many more through movies and television), I can say there's not a part of Paragon, The Rogue Isles, or Praetoria that doesn't remind me of somewhere I've lived or seen.