Where are all the recipes
What recipes and levels are you looking at? If you are talking about mid to low level recipes then yeah it has been a problem pretty much ever since merits came out. The nature of the merit system means that generating recipes at anything other than th emaximum level for the recipe is a huge pain so consequently good recipes tend to be in short supply at the mid levels.
Yeah, like Procs and globals. Seems like zero supply, ever, until 50, even when I put up huge bids.
edit: I hate chasing merits tbh, but maybe I have to force myself to AE I guess.
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I rolled up around 35 recipes in the low 30s last week. Before that, yeah, I kinda took a break.
Anyone still playing their midlevel crisis characters?
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Until people start paying more for them don't expect anyone to bother to generate them. Awhile back I tried to figure out what the cost of generating a mid level recipe vs generating a level 50 and the minimum number I got was at least 3 times what a level 50 cost. This was based just on lost inf and the time differential between what a character locked at 35 and what one at 50 could achieve. This doesn't include lost opportunity cost from not having the max market slots available on the toon and less storage capability, and that the recipes stick around and stink up your market slots like rotting cheese.
Seeing as nobody pays that kind of premium for mid level, and they don't pay any premium for the less desirable recipes its not surprising that there aren't many on the market.
I dunno, it takes a while but I get plenty of stuff. But "a while" really can be a pretty long while.
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I suspect the mid-level recipe drought is going to be an ongoing problem. As they release more and more Incarnate content, a high percentage of people will continue to spend most of their time playing their 50s.
I think (as mentioned above) that the price of mid-level stuff needs to get a lot higher so people will specifically start generating more supply. Until that happens... expect things to stay really slow.
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I have toons locked at 20, 25, 30, 35. PM me what recipes you need and level and ill see what i can get. I get 3000 tickets every 15 minutes so it dont take long to rack them up.
I suspect this will get better if, and when, we are given the option of having random rolls generate at the level we pick -- so if you pick "33", you would get random roll recipes at level 33 if possible, or highest level of the recipe otherwise.
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I'm never locking another character again, except for my level 35 Stalker that I wasn't playing anyway. Occasionally I dust her off and run some tips. I do roll merits (well, A-merits now) at 30, 35, and 40 when I'm levelling up though. Not so much out of altruism, more because I actually want my mid-level shinies and supply is so low. I do sell whatever I can't immediately use though.
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Lock one at your preferred level for rolling. I happen to like buffers for this ice or bubblers are very good. The farmer should be a /fire brute SS/Fire is very effective. With this combination, you should be able to get 3000 tickets between the two in 6-8 minutes. You get a wide variety of recipe production and you can get the bulk of sets this way.
If you don't have 2 accounts forget about production via AE. About the only thing that's efficient is tip missions. Their problem is if you run them quickly you will be producing very little but Hero Villain merits and some mission complete recipes.
If you go through the trouble of having 2 accounts with a dedicated farming alt on one, you might just as well take the few hours it'll take to PL yourself to 50 and buy IOs then.
Incarnate system is new and shiny.
People play their 50s more than ever.
Less mid level stuff.
This will stay the case while more and more incarnate shinies are released and will settle down some time after all the incarnate stuff has been released.
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I haven't been selling my low level special IOs because I have started slotting them.
For example last night in my Freedom base I found about 6 KB prots and Steadfast Res/Def IOs. I debated listing them but decided I would rather gleemail them to my alts.
With people paying 500k - 1M for commons it takes a pricey payday for me to list my good stuff.
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If you go through the trouble of having 2 accounts with a dedicated farming alt on one, you might just as well take the few hours it'll take to PL yourself to 50 and buy IOs then.
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There are items that just aren't there. 0 for sale. The ones that are there don't go for much more than the full level items. Just as a data point Decimations when I last looked had nothing in the low 30s recipes or crafted, and Positron's blast had supply but at nearly zero premium to the level 50 items. Anyway the response was for the op on how he could best utilize a locked character .
I have toons locked at 25,30 and 35. I do tips on them but not lately and Another Fan is right. You can't make as much as you can with a 50 and they just sit there forever. (I suspect that people are so used to no supply that they don't bother to check)
I mean to get back to them and do some more but wokring niches at 50 is so much easier. (i purposely chose an AT and powersets I already had at 50 to avoid the temptation of unlocking them). Basically I take whatever I need and market the rest.
I really wish it wasn't like this.
The whole system is unknowingly set up to choke supply in the mid range and every release the devs do compounds that.
- Incarnate content that can only be run by 50's.
- More Incarnate slots to fill coming in every issue from now on.
- People power-leveling up to get to the new L50 shinies
- Incarnate abilities not functioning when exemping down below L45
Point 1, 2 & 3 cause a derth in mid level recipes as no mid level toons are being run.
Point 4 causes a dearth because there's even less incentive to sk down, compared to sking someone up, as you lose your new shiny abilities and recipes aren't being generated at the lower sk level (assuming they generate like someone sk'ing up gets higher level recipe drops).
This is why they should do away with IO levels and just have them scale with your current combat level and just have all recipes/salvage drop at all levels.
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Yeah, like Procs and globals. Seems like zero supply, ever, until 50, even when I put up huge bids.
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My sense of altruism has its limits. If I can't consistently get prices that make generating those worthwhile, I won't bother. I've got things like an Oblit proc that's been sitting for over a week (I think at least 4 of the last 5 are at or above 100m at the level where I posted it, and I'm below that with my listing price), and other "desirable" items (both recipe and crafted) that just take up market slots. I had level locked a brute at 35 to do tips, but 300-400m later I found myself with market slots filled with things that are good, but that people just don't want to pay for at non-max levels.
So, to answer the question: In part, the recipes aren't there because the demand doesn't always make supplying them worthwhile. I made a reasonable profit with my brute, but the churn is just painfully slow.
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I mean nothing is available, ever, it seems like anymore since GR. A billion people bidding on everything but the utter crap and nothing ever available. Wth.
Is this a permanent situation do you supppose or will things chill out?
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