Someone Please Tell George Lucas "2012" Is Only a Movie
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Arnabas,
Posted on: 2011-01-18 17:51 in Comic and Hero-Villain Culture
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Lucas was just telling Rogen how he was going to re-released the movie "2012" and add Hayden in place of Cusack.
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Well, that would just lead to the usual "do you really think they'd admit the truth and cause widespread panic?"
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Originally Posted by TrueGentleman
George Lucas is a big fan of pseudoscience in addition to sci-fi, according to Seth Rogen.
Perhaps Lucas could visit NASA's site sometime to check out science without fiction for a change. |
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Which is one of the dumber tropes to have lasted for so long.
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Originally Posted by Arnabas
Well, that would just lead to the usual "do you really think they'd admit the truth and cause widespread panic?"
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We already knew Lucas had gone insane. Did you -see- the most recent Star Wars films?
Isn't 2012 when Lucas is supposed to re-release the whole Star Wars saga in 3D or something like that? 
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While having at least a 72 hour emergency kit and a good food storage is always a good idea due to various natural disasters, the world is as likely to end tomorrow as it is going to end in two years.
The whole idea of the world ending based on the Mayan Calendar is just as foolish as thinking the world will end in December 31, 9999 AD since the calendar system is ended. All that they need to do is have January 1, 10000 AD. Also various cultures and organizations have their own ideas about what will happen in 2012. Some believe that some terrible event will occur while others believe that humanity will transcend or some other event that will benefit humanity. The most common and rational belief is that 2012 will be just like any other year. 2012 is just like 2000. We have the same nutcases screaming that the world will end in 2012 that were present in 2000.
The only thing we need to do to those that proclaimed that the world will end in 2012, is in 2013 laugh at them. Chances are they will come up with some new doomsday deadline or show that the conversion factor for the Mayan Calendar was off so it is actually 2015 instead of 2012.
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Thing is, it's not even really based on the Mayan calendar. It's based on westerners trying to apply their "End of Days" mentality to the Mayan calendar, which they don't even really understand.|
Originally Posted by starphoenix
While having at least a 72 hour emergency kit and a good food storage is always a good idea due to various natural disasters, the world is as likely to end tomorrow as it is going to end in two years.
The whole idea of the world ending based on the Mayan Calendar is just as foolish as thinking the world will end in December 31, 9999 AD since the calendar system is ended. All that they need to do is have January 1, 10000 AD. Also various cultures and organizations have their own ideas about what will happen in 2012. Some believe that some terrible event will occur while others believe that humanity will transcend or some other event that will benefit humanity. The most common and rational belief is that 2012 will be just like any other year. 2012 is just like 2000. We have the same nutcases screaming that the world will end in 2012 that were present in 2000. The only thing we need to do to those that proclaimed that the world will end in 2012, is in 2013 laugh at them. Chances are they will come up with some new doomsday deadline or show that the conversion factor for the Mayan Calendar was off so it is actually 2015 instead of 2012. |
The Mayans viewed time as cyclical, this nonsense of 2012 is just the end of our current period (it would be more akin to thinking the world was ending every December 31st, or every year ending in '99, because it's the end of a calendar period).
Yes, Dec 20 2012 WILL be the end of the current calendar, but guess what, Dec 21 2012 will be the start of the next one.
In Mayan belief, Humans and the human world are the fourth creation of the world, and that because the previous creation ended at the conclusion of their calendar period, some people seem to think that ours will too. The problem with that is that the 3rd creation ended because in the eyes of the Mayan gods, it was a failure (hence why they tried a fourth time to get it right). Humanity is not considered a failure, so there would be no reason for it to end.
To me the most telling thing about this whole 2012 mumbo-jumbo is that modern Mayans, the people who are DIRECTLY DESCENDED from the supposed prophecy makers, view 2012 as just another boring year.
Don't you think that is the culture really thought it was the end of the world, they would have passed it down the generations a bit more vehemently?
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Originally Posted by Oathbound
Thing is, it's not even really based on the Mayan calendar. It's based on westerners trying to apply their "End of Days" mentality to the Mayan calendar, which they don't even really understand.
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Ah well, I always knew Lucas had lost it. However, I really feel sorry for Spielberg in this piece. Haven't we all had that time when you introduced a friend to someone and all they did was embarrass the hell out of you? Poor guy.
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My big concern in this solar cycle is a large enough geomagnetic storm that ends up blowing a reasonably large percentage of substation transformers, all at the same time.
Our modern society is so dependent on electrical power for refrigeration to maintain a constant availability of food, not to mention manufacturing and medical, that destroying 10-15% of the distribution grid overnight would cripple the country for years. Utilities simply don't stock enough spares for an event like that and post event the ability to manufacture replacements may be crippled.
Anyways the latest guesstimate for solar max is June/July 2013.
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There's more than enough out there in the real world to give cause for concern. Lucas, whose imagination revolves around spaceships going VRROOSH in a vacuum, lasers focused into cylinders, Midichlorians, etc., naturally prefers to worry about, well, cinematic doomsday scenarios. I'm surprised only that he didn't start blaming the planet *****.
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Originally Posted by Father Xmas
My big concern in this solar cycle is a large enough geomagnetic storm that ends up blowing a reasonably large percentage of substation transformers, all at the same time.
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Wait a minute, I can't even mention by name the planet where Flash Gordon's adventures take place? The censor-filter on these boards is overzealous to say the least.
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Originally Posted by TrueGentleman
I'm surprised only that he didn't start blaming the planet *****.
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You must of missed the Blazing Saddles quote thread which discussed this particular quirk of the profanity filter. The guess was it's an insult to Asians.
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Wait another minute, the censor-filter is bowdlerizing my link to the Wikipedia entry about the planet where Flash Gordon's adventures take place? Honestly, I'm aware the old comic strip was somewhat tinged with racism, but this is ridiculous.
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Originally Posted by TrueGentleman
Wait a minute, I can't even mention by name the planet where Flash Gordon's adventures take place? The censor-filter on these boards is overzealous to say the least.
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Is it a heretofore unknown slur against the citizens of Mongolia, whether Inner or Outer? These boards are introducing me to derogatory terminology I would have never guessed existed and even now doubt.|
Originally Posted by Father Xmas
You must of missed the Blazing Saddles quote thread which discussed this particular quirk of the profanity filter. The guess was it's an insult to Asians.
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This is yarbles, I say, great bolshy yarblockoes.
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*gasp* Such language. How ungentlemanly of you.|
Originally Posted by TrueGentleman
This is yarbles, I say, great bolshy yarblockoes.
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PS. I have no clue what, if anything, you said there, other than that I take that it's unpleasant.
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Further research pulled up as an insulting term for people with Down's Syndrome.
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I suppose I should be grateful the censor-filter hasn't been programmed to recognize the slang Anthony Burgess invented for A Clockwork Orange.|
Originally Posted by Oathbound
PS. I have no clue what, if anything, you said there, other than that I take that it's unpleasant.
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Originally Posted by Father Xmas
Further research pulled up as an insulting term for people with Down's Syndrome.
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In all seriousness, NCSoft is clearly using substandard, off-the-shelf censorware to filter the boards if it blocks an obscure slur that coincidentally features prominently in a classic sci-fi character's adventures but can't detect a notoriously offensive if outdated term for Asians.
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Originally Posted by TrueGentleman
Wait a minute, I can't even mention by name the planet where Flash Gordon's adventures take place? The censor-filter on these boards is overzealous to say the least.
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Originally Posted by Father Xmas
You must of missed the Blazing Saddles quote thread which discussed this particular quirk of the profanity filter. The guess was it's an insult to Asians.
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Originally Posted by Father Xmas
Further research pulled up as an insulting term for people with Down's Syndrome.
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Back to the topic of this thread, people have been predicting the end of the world pretty much since the beginning of the world. There was widespread famine across Europe in the year 1,000 AD because everyone was so convinced the world was going to end that year many farmers didn't bother to plant any crops the year before. I have no doubt that sooner or later the world is going to face some serious challenges either via global warming or from some kind of major meteor impact. But I'm not going to sit here and pretend that any date on a calendar already has that plotted out for us. I guess I only wish I was as famous as Lucas so that people would be willing to listen to any mad theories I wanted to spew forth.
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The British word "bollocks" probably comes pretty close.|
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It's fun to use naughty words in "foreign" languages.
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Originally Posted by TrueGentleman
I suppose I should be grateful the censor-filter hasn't been programmed to recognize the slang Anthony Burgess invented for A Clockwork Orange.
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Except it opens with a very realistic destruction of Alderaan, as played by The Earth...
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Originally Posted by Night-Hawk07
Isn't 2012 when Lucas is supposed to re-release the whole Star Wars saga in 3D or something like that?
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Originally Posted by VoodooGirl
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And I didn't think that movie could have been any worse. I sit corrected.
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Originally Posted by BafflingBeerMan
Lucas was just telling Rogen how he was going to re-released the movie "2012" and add Hayden in place of Cusack.
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total kick to the gut
This is like having Ra's Al Ghul show up at your birthday party.
Hmmm...some rich guy (Lucas) is rich enough to believe some wacky ****, and people have to sit and listen to talk about his wacky beliefs because he's rich.
Wow, that's never, *ever* happened before!
I've actually had a few discussions with my wife about the "Mayan-end-of-the-calendar-planets-align-we're-all-doomed!!!-in-2012" crap. She's a high school teacher, and she wanted some rational, scientific arguments to use with her students. Because a sizable percentage of them believe this crap.
Sometimes I wish I were more unscrupulous. I bet one could make a very nice income preying on the fears of the uneducated and weak-minded.
George Lucas is a big fan of pseudoscience in addition to sci-fi, according to Seth Rogen.
Rogen was left speechless when Lucas and Steven Spielberg joined a movie meeting he was a part of - but the encounter has left him worried his life will be over next year.
He recalls, George Lucas sits down and seriously proceeds to talk for around 25 minutes about how he thinks the world is gonna end in the year 2012, like, for real. He thinks it.
Hes going on about the tectonic plates and all the time Spielberg is, like, rolling his eyes, like, My nerdy friend wont shut up, Im sorry...
I first thought he (Lucas) was joking... and then I totally realized he was serious and then I started thinking, If youre George Lucas and you actually think the world is gonna end in a year, theres no way you havent built a spaceship for yourself... So I asked him... Can I have a seat on it?
He claimed he didnt have a spaceship, but theres no doubt theres a Millennium Falcon in a garage somewhere with a pilot just waiting to go... Its gonna be him and Steven Spielberg and Ill be blown up like the rest of us.