I just got Reactive...and got it to T4 because i got rather lucky on a VR drop...its just insane the difference it makes. Im SS/fire ATM. Im going to give SS/FIRE/Mu a go soon once my build is all paid for. But for now its just lol. drop a burn and the numbers go everywhere since each tick of burn has a chance to proc reactive, whatever gets caught in that just dies.
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Yeah...I'd barely played my Brute at all the past few weeks, but PLed a friend briefly today. Decided I wanted Reactive, went out and was able to get up to t3.|
Originally Posted by SKYeXi1e
I just got Reactive...and got it to T4 because i got rather lucky on a VR drop...its just insane the difference it makes. Im SS/fire ATM. Im going to give SS/FIRE/Mu a go soon once my build is all paid for. But for now its just lol. drop a burn and the numbers go everywhere since each tick of burn has a chance to proc reactive, whatever gets caught in that just dies.
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Wow. It's crazy. I also went ahead and made an inspiration combining bind too. Clearing +4x8 frontloaded fuzzy kittens in about 2 minutes. Used to have to eat purples, now I kill so fast I don't need to.
lol, WAI
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Just that first area. 9.3mil is normal. Sometimes bosses like to run away at the end. Ceartainly worth the effort to wait a few seconds for them to come back. You miss 5 bosses, that is over half a mil right there.
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Originally Posted by Mezzosoprano
Runners might be my XP leak. I ran the mission again and earned just under 8 million inf in 2:37 -- 3.01 M inf/min. Definitely good speed, but still not up to top brute-level smashing.
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SS/Fire/Elec is nice and all, but I'm still rather fond of my underdog Dark/Fire/Energy. Soul Drain gives you your own fulcrum shift for burn, while negative damage is fairly unresisted as a norm. As long as you have lots of recharge, it's deadly to groups. (Doesn't have one big awesome damage power like KoB, but with Firey Embrace it stacks fire ticks on top of your two single target punches for better sustained damage and fury generation.) Plus, no worries about any crashes at all, and two endurance recovery powers that can be slotted for damage with perfect body and two performance shifters.
What are your farm times?
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I don't know if this has already been covered but how does a DB/FA do on farms? ((I know a SS/FA is the giggty)) Just curious looking for a new farming combo.
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with the change to reactive proc is it worth going for the 25%-res/75%proc or will the 75%-res/25%proc produce a faster time?
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Could have sworn i posted here. I dont have a DB/fire myself but i know someone who does, and its pretty good.|
Originally Posted by DreamsRazor
I don't know if this has already been covered but how does a DB/FA do on farms? ((I know a SS/FA is the giggty)) Just curious looking for a new farming combo.
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Originally Posted by Black_Assassin
with the change to reactive proc is it worth going for the 25%-res/75%proc or will the 75%-res/25%proc produce a faster time?
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It's not that the -res is better now its that they all suck that much more.
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Its entertaining, I'll have to post my current build. My brute is 34 so he doesn't have first embrace yet but the stacking of numbers from the combos plus burn is a pure bliss of accomplishment. He doesn't compare at all to ss/fire but its fun.
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Originally Posted by DreamsRazor
I don't know if this has already been covered but how does a DB/FA do on farms? ((I know a SS/FA is the giggty)) Just curious looking for a new farming combo.
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Last night my wife and I, both rolled a DB/FA. Jumped from 1-3 level in the first mission (set the difficulty -1,x6). A fast leveler so far, faster than my SS/FA (and yes I know that at the higher end SS will not only roll, but smoke my DB in fire farms). However it is a fun character that starts fast the only Brute I have played that felt as fast (probably faster) is my claws/EA brute (KillWitch) Stop him at level 10 last night, so I could play other characters. So far fun and fast definitely encourages blitz playing.
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DB seems bad for farming. Weapon redraw. Long animations. None of the combos are worth the time on a brute. Seems pointless to do a 3 hit combo for aoe knockdown when SS does it in one move. In a raid you never get a combo off.
Weapon redraw, i think, doesnt actually slow things down. Of course, I've also heard they changed that. And the dmg per animation for 1k cuts is actually higher than FS if i remember right.
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It really isn't. With just using the weaken, sweep, and attack vitals combos + burn equals numbers galore flowing. With the frontload mish, targets stack in a nice tight space, making attack vitals a major bleeder. The inspirations were coming so fast the game was lagging at times. I never experienced that while leveling up my ss/fire brute(s). When comparing with a general SO build, SS/fire verse db/fire, its a toss-up of who wins. Granted once you start building with your more expensive IOs then SS/fire is the king of speed. |
Originally Posted by Pureshadow2
DB seems bad for farming. Weapon redraw. Long animations. None of the combos are worth the time on a brute. Seems pointless to do a 3 hit combo for aoe knockdown when SS does it in one move. In a raid you never get a combo off.
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But yeah weapon redraw isn't an issue as far as what I've experienced.
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I experience weapon redraw everytime i play my DB.
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Originally Posted by BeastMan
It really isn't. With just using the weaken, sweep, and attack vitals combos + burn equals numbers galore flowing. With the frontload mish, targets stack in a nice tight space, making attack vitals a major bleeder. The inspirations were coming so fast the game was lagging at times. I never experienced that while leveling up my ss/fire brute(s). When comparing with a general SO build, SS/fire verse db/fire, its a toss-up of who wins. Granted once you start building with your more expensive IOs then SS/fire is the king of speed.
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By a small amount, yes. However that is also damag per target and FS hits more targets during ambush farms. The total damage, even DPA, will be higher on FS most of the time.
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Originally Posted by ultrawatt
Weapon redraw, i think, doesnt actually slow things down. Of course, I've also heard they changed that. And the dmg per animation for 1k cuts is actually higher than FS if i remember right.
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Having redraw and having major issues because of it are 2 very different things.
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Originally Posted by Pureshadow2
I experience weapon redraw everytime i play my DB.
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The whole db verses ss discussion won't turn into an elec/fire verse ss/fire argument. SS/fire wins hands down on a optimal build over db/fire. But when the discussion is about ss/fire with SO's from levels 1 to 38, I have to say db/fire can compete. Its not about the aoe god in FS, its about damage that the db combos can give a casual player over mashing FS + burn all the time. It can be a bit of a bore whereas the db combos can offer something different to the table. A pissing match b/t the two isn't whats being discussed.
I can agree with that, but the question that remains is : why would you care about level 1-38 on SOs in a discussion about dedicated farming alts, seeing as this takes all of a few hours of solo AE regardless of the combo? All in all, you might save half a hour or something. Probably less time than you'd spend posting to defend the build on the boards. 
Anyone have a good elec/shield farming build?
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Ah, i didnt know it had a lower target cap.
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Originally Posted by HelinCarnate
By a small amount, yes. However that is also damag per target and FS hits more targets during ambush farms. The total damage, even DPA, will be higher on FS most of the time.
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More so food for thought when someone wants to start on a new server and is looking to not be dedicated to the lore of ss/fire, that the db/fire option is there. Sometimes folks get caught up in the "my ss/fire dwarfs your "primary"/fire brute by 30 seconds. I've enjoyed farming everything from ice/dm tank (unique to say the least) to energy/stone brute. And they definity differ in times. Heck if the ever nerfed this kind of A.E. farming I'd probably take a long extended break. |
Originally Posted by Nihilii
I can agree with that, but the question that remains is : why would you care about level 1-38 on SOs in a discussion about dedicated farming alts, seeing as this takes all of a few hours of solo AE regardless of the combo? All in all, you might save half a hour or something. Probably less time than you'd spend posting to defend the build on the boards.
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Yes with the optimal "ss,elec"/fire build the designated alt. can hit 38+ in a matter of hours. I wasn't defending db, rather meary stating to the opposition that weapon redraw is nothing but a few shakes from a dog's tail.
I think you can farm with almost anything. The very best farmer I've ever seen was a War Mace/Shield Brute. He was incredible.
I was once farmed with a storm/ice defender, he flew through a +4x8 with almost no damage (I wouldn't have believed it unless I had seen it) while I've seen ss/fire's die on a similar farm. The same farmer told me he farms +4x8 with an ice/rad troller. Another time was farmed with an elec/elec blaster, as much as some people say that elec/elec blaster sucks.
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Those are all individual examples and very uncommon for the set. Player ability has alot to do with farming as well. Toons are just tools and are less than half of what goes into a decent farmer, the player; the person using the tool is the one that contributes the most.|
Originally Posted by Firebeam
I think you can farm with almost anything. The very best farmer I've ever seen was a War Mace/Shield Brute. He was incredible.
I was once farmed with a storm/ice defender, he flew through a +4x8 with almost no damage (I wouldn't have believed it unless I had seen it) while I've seen ss/fire's die on a similar farm. The same farmer told me he farms +4x8 with an ice/rad troller. Another time was farmed with an elec/elec blaster, as much as some people say that elec/elec blaster sucks. 0.02 |
Give the best mechanics tools to someone that knows nothing about cars and ask them to fix your engine problems and you will get nowhere. That sounds like the ss/fire person.
Give common tools to a great mechanic and they can tear appart your car and put it back together and have it running better than before. That sounds alot like the others.
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Thats a VERY good point and something thats often forgotten, i know an SS/fire that can't even farm +0/x8 (and he keeps setting it to +4, its really just plain old sad) yet i know plenty of uncommon combo's that are still pretty good in the hands of a good player. Like a nrg/fire brute, WM/inuv, fire/mind blaster, all sorts of stuff that should either die or be slow as ****.
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Originally Posted by HelinCarnate
Those are all individual examples and very uncommon for the set. Player ability has alot to do with farming as well. Toons are just tools and are less than half of what goes into a decent farmer, the player; the person using the tool is the one that contributes the most.
Give the best mechanics tools to someone that knows nothing about cars and ask them to fix your engine problems and you will get nowhere. That sounds like the ss/fire person. Give common tools to a great mechanic and they can tear appart your car and put it back together and have it running better than before. That sounds alot like the others. |
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