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Posted on: 2011-01-12 05:25 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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Originally Posted by Grouchybeast
Doooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooom!!!
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Originally Posted by MajorPrankster
The title really says it all.
I have grown increasingly tired of the FUD that players who fear any change bring to the forums as well as the DOOM criers, who, after many years of success for this game, have apparently ALWAYS been dead wrong. Yeah, I know I might as well be trying to stop a hurricane with tissue paper, but sometimes, I just get fed up with it. Here we are, when the game has never had more ways to play, more things to do and more ways to them and all the Negative Nancy's can do is attempt to find fault with something. It's sickening. It's one of the reasons that I am often embarrassed to call myself a gamer, lest I be thrown in with people that think it's a good idea to gather the pitchforks because a digit in the game got change from 2 to 1.5 and that the only appropriate response is to set themselves and everyone they can touch on fire. Is every process in the game perfect? Of course not, because that is not possible, as the definition of perfect lies with each person differently for a fun pastime. Is it plenty fun enough to keep enough subscribers to be profitable? Apparently so, even when I recall posts determined to convince everyone the game would not be here for another month, pretty much from the beginning. Now, constructive criticism is a needed form of feedback and there are plenty of posters who give great feedback. But, this incessant need to degrade the work of the people pouring their hearts into this game is really unnecessary, immature and rude. I for one am simply sick of seeing it and post this to show current and future players that the Negative Nancy's are not only WRONG but are a small minority of the games population. So, even thought there are those that will attack me, my post and possibly my heritage, I say to the Haters, you are WRONG. You have always been WRONG. The game is still here, still profitable, still moving in a positive direction. If you don't like the game anymore, or never did, and yet you still play and or post your hate on the forums, the jokes on you. If you don't realize that, it just makes it all the more amusing. |
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Originally Posted by je_saist
MajorPrankster, I congratulate you for having the guts to post that.
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wait 2 - 1.5 huh? *scratches head* what got nerfed?
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
You know what I'm really sick of? People doing things. It's really getting out of hand. Especially now that all of those things have happened, you'd think people would be just happy and appreciative of everything, but no. They have to do things.
Now, I know asking people to not do things is like asking people to do things, in that it just never works, but at the same time, you always have to keep trying, because if you don't keep trying then you'll never get anything done. And it's really frustrating that it's like that, for sure. Now, OK, I'll admit, some things are good, but we can never forget that some things are also bad. It's good when people do these things that are good and good and also sometimes good, but not so good when people do these things that aren't good, or in other words, when people do the things that are bad. Certainly, it's natural that people are going to want to do the things they want to do, and it's even good when people do good things, but let's be realistic here: When is the last thing that happened? No matter what happens, someone will always do something, and we really should be better - that is to say more good - than that. Let's not be bad people and do these things, when these things really don't serve and purpose at all and are, in fact, very detrimental to everything just as a general thing. But if you guys still feel obligated to do these things that you do that I don't want you to do even though we all know you shouldn't do them - and we do - then you do understand that you're doing the wrong thing, do you not? *In other news: I smoulder with generic rage. |
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Originally Posted by Camper
A little doomcrying every now and then is the price of doing business on the internet.
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Originally Posted by LostHalo
I miss these old cartoons. It's particularly sad that Cartoon Network stopped its "June Bugs" marathon a few years back because of the Boomerang network being launched.
And then subsequently, Boomerang now only plays ******* Scooby Doo crap. |
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Originally Posted by Toony
Forums exist for discussion be it negative or positive. Not just glowing praise. The devs want feedback, not yes men who think everything is sunshine and roses.
I don't think it's bad to air ones concerns as sometimes they turn out to be true. |
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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison See, it's gems like these that make me check Claws' post history every once in a while to make sure I haven't missed anything good lately. |
We don't serve that fancy city beer here, boy.
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Originally Posted by Night-Hawk07
Anyway, as far as the OP, honestly the DOOM is stronger if you take a peek at HeroMMO2's forums. Boy they really flipped when they found out Castle left, and there's not a blasted thing you can say to convince them we're not on a sinking ship.
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Sure whiners suck. But blind fanboyism can be very detrimental to a game. You should never be patting a developer on the back when you don't like what they are doing.
I play many MMORPGs and my money goes where I am having the most enjoyment.
COH is an excellent game, the expansion was good but really hasn't made a lot of sense to me the more I learn about this game. Alpha slots and incarnate system are great.
Is CoX shutting down? Of course not. Just don't have that attitude of "Everything is fine here nothing to see." Because the reality is there's quite a bit of neglect going on in CoX and they're too understaffed to do anything about it.
This is a very old niche game. Now they are threatened by a new juggernaut within the same niche. To say the other game is bad means you probably haven't tried it. I'm not going to say it is bad just because I like CoH. They are both good but very different from each other.
I'm a gamer and play video games. Many video games. You should never get so involved in a game that you just lose all objectivity. It's bad for you and the game itself.
The things I want in CoH aren't being catered too and my fun is waining. My biggest love in COH is AE and it's never going to get improved. There's just many old things being neglected while they focus on the new. Do I hold it against the devs? Of course not- they are understaffed.
Like I said earlier. I go where I'm having the most fun and one of the only reasons I'm subbed right now and resubbing this month is due to the Billboard Contest. But that isn't fun. Most of the time I just find myself standing around my base with no carrot on a stick to give me incentive to do anything.
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Originally Posted by Ramification TM
This is a very old niche game. Now they are threatened by a new juggernaut within the same niche. To say the other game is bad means you probably haven't tried it.
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Originally Posted by FunstuffofDoom
'Cept you. You can stay. You, people should listen to more often.
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This game has been the game I always come back to for the past six years now. There are several reasons for that. Most of these reasons have to do with this game's lacking annoyances that other games have, and that I do not enjoy all that much:
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Originally Posted by Flarstux
When BaBs left there was much wailing and gnashing of teeth here in this section of the forums, and even a bit of a memorial service on one of the servers, which I attended. When Castle left... well, heck, I didn't even know about it until a day or two after the fact when someone made an off-hand remark about it in a thread about something else.
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Originally Posted by JKCarrier
Slightly different situations. Castle, who resigned, was allowed to make an official "farewell" post, and people had a chance to say goodbye to him directly. BaBs, on the other hand, was laid off, and we got no official announcement of it at all -- he just disappeared, and we had to find out what happened from outside sources. That's why people made more of a fuss about it.
Oh, and to stay on topic: DOOOooooOOOOoooMMMM! |
/e grabs HUGE bucket of popcorn and finds a comfy seat as the flame war begins 
"This should be a Really, REALLY, REALLY GOOD ONE. Since it releates to no specific topic so anyone that likes to complain can take offense and rage on into that dark night!"
hehehe Okay that out of the way I agree with the OP. Now I am not saying people don't have the right to come here and voice concerns and ask for thing to be fixed.. one of the reasons I have stuck with this game for more than 5 years now is the NC Soft staff do something almost unheard of in a lot of major US Industries.. They actually LISTEN to what we say and add things to the game based on our comments and fix things that get broken. With that politically correct statement out of the way let's get a little nasty...
All of these are recent rants I have seen here on the forums:
I hate Praetoria how can I get out of here fast? Huh? Excuse me? The main reason that entirely new world exists is because older players were complaining they were tired of running the same old content over and over every time they created a new alt. If you hate it so much try actually playing the character, get it to level 20 and leave.. Then simply never go back again. 
The new incarnate system is unfair it forces me to team: Okay first of all its an MMORPG that is designed for team play but more importantly it also allows almost any AT to still solo and the Incarnate system is no different.. Yeah if all you are going to do is solo its going to take a LOT longer than it does those of us joining Task Forces and having an uncommon slotted in a day or less but no where does it say if you don't team you can't get shards and slot you Alpha! 
Oh and one of my favorites...
I've been playing this game for almost a year now and think its so unfair I don't have the same Vet Rewards that 6 year players have. Why can't the sell us that stuff in Packs? DUHHHHHHH Because those VET REWARDS were a way of saying a very small Thank you to players that have been paying to play this game like six times longer that you have. Where were you 6 years ago? All you had to do was join back then and pay every month/quarter/year and you could have all that neat (?) stuff too. 
As we all knoiw the list goes on and on. It doesn't matter what NC Soft does to improve things there is always someone, with a small group of disciples, that thinks it is the absolute worst thing ever and has condemned the game to utter destuction.
/e looks around in her chair for the snack bar
"I wonder if they have any gummy bears. I could go for something sweet and chewy right now. Please don't let me bother you. Continue to rant." 
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Originally Posted by TrueMetal
There's a difference between criticism and being a bitter, vindictive pit of negativity that jumps to wild conclusions and needs to personally insult people working on the game.
Though I have to say that most of the 'DOOM' on these forums if very mild compared to other venues spread across the internet. |
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Originally Posted by brophog02
Go to redside sometime and see how many players you find.
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Originally Posted by ClawsandEffect
Posting: "ZOMG the game is dying because something doesn't work the way some doofus in Wyoming wants it to!" is not feedback.
With every issue release, some idiot posts about how the game is absolutely, positively going to shut down within a month because of some feature they personally dislike. There's nothing constructive about that. Feedback is a good thing, but the people doing the stuff the OP is talking about aren't giving feedback. They are just making fools of themselves by insisting that the game is going to die because the slightest thing was changed. And most of the people doing that leave no room for discussion. People have said the game was doomed because of everything from ED to inherent Fitness. So far they have all been proven wrong. |
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Originally Posted by brophog02
Go to redside sometime and see how many players you find.
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Originally Posted by Ramification TM
Sure whiners suck. But blind fanboyism can be very detrimental to a game. You should never be patting a developer on the back when you don't like what they are doing.
<snip> This is a very old niche game. Now they are threatened by a new juggernaut within the same niche. To say the other game is bad means you probably haven't tried it. |
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Originally Posted by Ramification TM
Now they are threatened by a new juggernaut within the same niche.
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I think it's abit foolish to underestimate that game. It doesn't matter if it sucks or has flaws or is made by a bad developer. It's license alone will carry many people onto it despite how bad it may be. Do not underestimate the power of a very well known and popular license.
Even a game SOE utterly ruined is still around due to it's license.