Need another at suggestion for blue side, something that requires quick thinking.
The most versatile ATs in the game are Kheldians. Warshades are generally considered more effective but Peacebringers are also quite useful and are (in my opinion) a lot flashier. About the only other characters who can fill as many roles as a Kheldian are some Masterminds and Controllers (like Bots/Traps or Ill/Rad) or a few ultra-high end Brute / Scrapper builds... after all, characters who can solo nearly anything in the game (including TFs) can pretty much fill any hole in a team simply by ignoring the team and just killing everything themselves.
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Actually I am waiting until I atleast have one 50 before I do that I hear once you try one all other ats are boring compared to them, I was taking a look at my kin/rad it looks very appealing and it seems diverse on paper but with more damage in teams, just might be what I am looking for.
Best advice is to stop asking people what to play... and just play.
Grab mids hero designer and look around at different possibilities. Lets you "try out" different things and look at what a character is going to offer you. Think about different ways you could use a power by what effects it has (and how it can be upgraded) and then that might lead you to building an entire character around some special power.
Different people have different ideas of what is fun to play.... and a LOT of people have bad ideas in terms of what "can't work". Want to help out healing a bit? Grab aid other (my dominator has helped out a LOT with power boosting before aid other someone on the backline).
The entire dieing and what you bring to the group and how the set actually plays? That all comes with...well...actually learning to play it. There is a BIG difference between a bad energy blaster and a good one (there is a big difference between a bad anything and a good one).
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That actually makes no sense, I didnt ask for an opinion just others experience in what I was looking for, I was very specific and not asking what I should play, I asked what ats fit this kind of playstyle, and yes I understand all that and mids does not help me anymore as far as finding the right playstyle all it does is help you plan a build thats it.
But thanks for your opinion on the situation it is noted.
Since you liked blasters except for the high mortality factor, you might want to give dominators a go. They, like blasters, use active defense, which means you need to keep an eye on everything that's going on around you and find a way to make it not kill you, but with a control primary it's a little bit safer.
I will echo the thought that a Dominator could be the best bet. You get Ranged attacks, Controls and Melee attacks, and each combination has its own flavor. Tactics are very important, especially prior to reaching Perma-dom status, so you will have to be fast on your keys. AND.... it plays kinda like a blaster, but with greater safety.
The only limitation for Dominators (to me) is that they don't have as many sets to choose from as other ATs, so this seems more limiting to me, but they are just so much fun to play that it doesn't seem to matter. Every combo I have tried has been alot of fun.
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I do enjoy a thrill but I do not enjoy how much I died on certain blaster ats, I enjoy being versatile like my ill/rad controller my only real issues with him is that his personal attacks are well boring even with air supperiority, I apologize if I misspelled that. I enjoy range most of the time some melee will be alright, I enjoy the melee better on my ill/rad since flash he has to be in the middle of mobs so its kind of thrilling. |
Perhapes, if you have Going Rogue, a Dom who goes Blue at 20 would be acceptable?
Kinetics or Storm Summoning.
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I've have a Kin/Dark defender that plays at quite the frenetic pace. After I'd initially been playing the character for a while I started looking through the forums for what direction I could take him. This is when I found Electron Girls Guide to Kinetic Scrappers thread where Luminara talks about what you can do with a Kin/Dark defender. The guide is a bit old, but the concept still holds. Read the whole thread as there's some really good feedback to her initial guide.
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Speaking from my own characters, my most fastpaced character has got to be my Electric/Electric/Electric Blaster. She's a melee focused Blaster with plenty of single target controls and a nasty Endurance Drain. In other words, not your average Blaster. Playing a melee focused Blaster is a high risk/reward situation as 10 seconds after the fight starts, someone is dead. Usually the enemies. Usually. The trick is to use Short Circuit and Power Sink to bottom out the enemy's Endurance and then pound them to pieces with /Electric's powerful melee attacks. Havoc Punch is awesome. Against tougher targets, you drain them and stack Holds on them until they're not a problem anymore.
I wouldn't recommend playing this one lightly, though, it is a very difficult style of Blasting. But when you get it down, you'll more often than not hear a "How the heck did you DO that?!" from your teammates. And some times you get unlucky and get to eat floor instantly. Still, for fast paced thinking character, it's a rush. But to say it again: This style is not for the sane. If a normal Blaster toes the line between victory and defeat, this one cartwheels along it. You're either totally awesome or dead.
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That actually makes no sense, I didnt ask for an opinion just others experience in what I was looking for, I was very specific and not asking what I should play, I asked what ats fit this kind of playstyle, and yes I understand all that and mids does not help me anymore as far as finding the right playstyle all it does is help you plan a build thats it.
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I have to agree with the person you responded to. There is no feeling like trying something out and discovering you like it for yourself. There are 14 different basic options out there, and under each category, playstyles vary wildly. Try em out. Try them ALL out, and see what you like.
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You do realize that you ARE asking people what to play, right? You also ARE asking for people's opinions. It's ok. That's what this forum is about. If you didn't want opinions or discussion, why post anything?
I have to agree with the person you responded to. There is no feeling like trying something out and discovering you like it for yourself. There are 14 different basic options out there, and under each category, playstyles vary wildly. Try em out. Try them ALL out, and see what you like. |
Asking for a suggestion is, by definition, asking for an opinion. If someone has no opinion on something, why would they suggest anything?
Try a Katana/Regen scrapper. It has pretty good survivability through leveraging Divine Avalanche and your click heals, it will never run out of endurance, and Katana's attacks are visually appealing. And you have to pay attention to what is going on at all times. The steepest part of a /Regen's learning curve is learning not only when to use your click heals, but also when NOT to use them.
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Fast thinking and yet capable of incredible feats of heroism?
Ice/Storm controller.
You have so many tools that can either help control the enemy or cause your team serious chaos that it is a great AT for the thinking man/woman.
I think you are on the right track with a Kin/Rad. Kinetics get to playing so fast they aren't limited by recharge so much as animation time, and you have to plan your sequences around animation times. Also, rad blast is fast blasting with a lot of variation in style and also in slotting schemes. Go for it!
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One of my first characters years ago was a storm/dark defender (this is before GR so now I would roll it as a corruptor). That character had me thinking every fight. With storm, it is what powr to use and what power NOT to use. Very rarely will you break out everything on a team setting because the chaos you can create is awesome (as people who have seen me play my lvl 45 illision/storm cont can attest to.
I think you mentioned a kin/rad. For some reason mine stalled at 3o, but I think thre were RL problems at the time and not so much that set. Perhaps I'll pick her up again.
good luck with your hunt.
Storm is good for this. Overall, knockback seems to be good for requiring quick thinking. I've had the experience you are looking for, I think, with the following:
Storm/Energy
Illusion/Storm
Energy/Energy
All have significant ranged defense, which, along with the knockback, helps keep them alive.
Everything I've read about forms-based Kheldians suggests that they'd be good for this too, but mine is a human-only peacebringer and doesn't really have that same level of tactical feeling. Better than a scrapper for this, with two self-heals and some knockback, but not up there with the pure kb artists, for me.
There's also Sonic/Energy, which has some of that feel once you get the sleep. Combining that with the one kb attack and the stun factor gives you enough control tools to keep you thinking; if it's too easy, up your difficulty a bit until the challenge is right.
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An offshoot to C&E's Katana/Regen is a Dual Blades/Regen scrapper. I've been leveling one for a bit (he's just shy of dinging lvl 31) and has been a total blast to play. Flashy sword play combined with a pretty active, or should i say, reactive secondary in /regen leads to a pretty busy toon to play. It's a little heavier on the end dept than the katana as i've got a 3 slotted QR and single slotted stamina and having to pop blues on really extended fights or running from one combat to another nonstop (aka YAY SCRAPPERLOCK!)...but it's nothing really horrible. See also Claws/Regen.
I also second on the Dominator, even though you seem to be focusing on blue side. One of my favorite toons was a Plant/Thorns Dom. He could effectively nuetralize mobs and take'em out. My Earth/Stone Dom is also loads of fun. Lotsa shake, rattle, roll, and SMASH! That and seeing a Dominator rip a bigazz rock from the ground and chuck it at some poor slob is worth the price of admission alone...to say nothing of the big rock hammers.
Also...triform WS/PB. If you can manage your slots (and believe me...no small feat there) well, a triform kheldian is hell on wheels. You can end up with a toon that can function well in most any situation. From pumping damage into stuff to soaking up damage as a secondary/backup tank...in the same fight. Always something to do with these guys.
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I think Kin/Regen or Kin/Fire are both pretty busy and fun to play without the Blaster death factor.
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My Mind/Rad controller is pretty fast paced and has to be quick in his decision-making to survive. One-hecuva boss killer though, as long as its not Carnies. He gets owned by them.
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Thanks allot for all the suggestions, lots of them, I took a look at dominators and I agree it looks like what I am looking for, and I did not ask for an opinion guys what I asked for is what ats have that playstyle that I described that is not an opinion if that playstyle exists within that power combination then that is what it is.
I am iffy about storm, it looks visually appealing sure, but I am not a fan of knockback users, I tried energy/energy for a while loved the visuals but in the end, hated playing it on teams, but I never made it to level 22 I think it was like 18 or so. Sure I can control the kb but it was annoying since I was a blaster and enjoy constantly blasting, there where way to many pauses now pauses to change tactics is great I love that but to constantly move around to shoot some baddies while everyone else is blasting from the same position the whole time is annoying, and even with hover it was boring, I prefer to actually see my blasts in front of me, but indoors you cant even see what your shooting at when you try the knockdown approach.
I will try some of these suggestions.
Thanks allot for all the suggestions, lots of them, I took a look at dominators and I agree it looks like what I am looking for, and I did not ask for an opinion guys what I asked for is what ats have that playstyle that I described that is not an opinion if that playstyle exists within that power combination then that is what it is.
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You asked us to describe what ATs have the playstyle that you are looking for. Any answer that someone gives you is going to reflect their opinion on the matter.
Opinion:
1. a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty.
2. a personal view, attitude, or appraisal.
Words to the wise aren't necessary- it's the stupid ones that need them.
"You're right...I forgot...being constantly at or the near the damage cap is a big turn off. Definitely not worth it."
- Vitality
Thanks allot for all the suggestions, lots of them, I took a look at dominators and I agree it looks like what I am looking for, and I did not ask for an opinion guys what I asked for is what ats have that playstyle that I described that is not an opinion if that playstyle exists within that power combination then that is what it is.
I am iffy about storm, it looks visually appealing sure, but I am not a fan of knockback users, I tried energy/energy for a while loved the visuals but in the end, hated playing it on teams, but I never made it to level 22 I think it was like 18 or so. Sure I can control the kb but it was annoying since I was a blaster and enjoy constantly blasting, there where way to many pauses now pauses to change tactics is great I love that but to constantly move around to shoot some baddies while everyone else is blasting from the same position the whole time is annoying, and even with hover it was boring, I prefer to actually see my blasts in front of me, but indoors you cant even see what your shooting at when you try the knockdown approach. I will try some of these suggestions. |
Please, can you use some punctuation in your sentences? It makes it hard to understand what it is you're trying to say, which in turn makes it harder for us to help you.
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Originally Posted by PapaSlade
Rangle's right....this is fun.
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I know I have posted quite a few times and perhaps to much, and I am finally learning to rely better on myself then the forums, this game is more complicated then what I am use to, in most mmorpgs you pick a class and costumize in one or 2 areas and it was more simplified, this game has such a wide range of costumization that it probably has the most depth I have ever seen in a mmorpg before.
So id thought id try to explain better what I am looking for, and I thank everyone for there patience and understanding with my posts in the past week.
I enjoy fast paced thinking characters, I enjoy the ability to change tactics when I need to for teams espically, I enjoy fast paced attacks, I would have enjoyed an energy blaster for example if I could have attacked more consistently instead of having to run to the mob and then behind it and shooting it into a wall in teams.
I do enjoy a thrill but I do not enjoy how much I died on certain blaster ats, I enjoy being versatile like my ill/rad controller my only real issues with him is that his personal attacks are well boring even with air supperiority, I apologize if I misspelled that. I enjoy range most of the time some melee will be alright, I enjoy the melee better on my ill/rad since flash he has to be in the middle of mobs so its kind of thrilling.
Straight melee types I am iffy about never stuck with them in other games although this game is so different then your usual fantasy mmo I might enjoy it a bit more.
And one final note, I want something visually appealing, doesnt have to be super flashy but just visually appealing. If you guys want anymore details ask me and I will tell you, I cannot think of anything else to say except thank you all for reading my post.