Curiosity: Incarnate!

Having just made an IO build for my latest character, 'Streaking Shiela', Kin/SR Scrapper...I'm wondering how I'll factor Incarnates in for her...because her final IO build is insane. Softcapped def? Perma-Hasten? Very high accuracy and damage? Thank you!

Her nabbing power for herself from the Well might actually fit for her, tbh. She's a thief, and having an extra edge would certainly appeal to her.

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Originally Posted by Zwillinger GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.

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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.

Seriously CB just drop it alright?

I swear you seem to be arguing the point just to be as contrary as possible and its getting real old real quick. Tech, Z, Floaty and Omy have already (repeatedly) attempted to explain to you why in their view; and mine as it so happens since I agree with most of their reasoning, you are wrong and for that (and their saint-like patience) I salute them.

In all honesty the only conclusion I can come to is that you are deliberately trolling and it really is getting more than a bit tedious.

*skips to last page*

Ah, that's why this thread is over 10 pages...dunno why I didn't guess it.

Not to be rude, I just figure it'd barely be reaching 5 pages or so by now with character descriptions...

QR: And this is almost exactly *why* i dont RP with any of the main groups around here.....

I think it's probably time someone explained a bit about the Unionverse as I get the feeling the Americans look at us with a kind of baffled "Why is this an issue?" face. It's a fully shared universe, where every characters published actions (On the forums, or through IC action) are canon to both themselves and each other. Yes, the concept of a shared setting where your characters exploits are considered canon to 'everyone' does make it a little limiting in what you can do at times. You can't do anything too sweeping as it's got to be accessible to new players, not to mention people don't really like being forced to pay attention to a player made power trip and you need to show some sense.

But on the upside it makes the world feel more alive, plots sometimes intersect with interesting results. Characters form deeper bonds and don't all live in their own little bubble universes. People find plot hooks easier (But not necessarily take them. Some people seem to refuse to take a plot hook unless it's absolutely tailor made for their characters, which of course is just not going to happen, but that's a different rant for a different day) There's a palpable feel of history to the Unionverse and it can even invoke a bit of nostalgia of people and groups gone by. It makes the game seem more alive, as things happen while you're away and old friends sometimes turn up unexpectedly. It's dynamic and flexible!

But of course, it does have to be tempered by people not taking the mickey. You can't push the universe too hard, you shouldn't run plots that FORCE people to participate and above all your characters should feel like they're real people, not people with stats.

This kind of "You must be an Incarnate" nonsense is going to get silly when everyone's doing it, especially as it's come out of pretty much no where. It's a new buzzword Paragon Studio's made up to explain how they're moving the game forward. Saying that people's characters HAVE to be one IC though is stepping on that "Don't force people to do things they don't want too" rule. Paragon Studio don't really worry about how this stuff will affect RP, nor should they! But sometimes you have to bend what they give us a little so people can be happy.

Not that it means all rule bending is now fair game. We'll still rail against people who make jarring characters that don't fit in the universe, or abuse the game lore, because we're actually quite nice people and would like a big game world that everyone can be in. But it doesn't help when a few people are peeing in the pool. People who openly commit crimes and refuse to have their characters take the consequences. People who make characters who can fix anything in a few minutes. People who bring characters to a social setting who just aren't social, then whine OOC about it and just depress everyone. And of course the trolls who deliberately push peoples buttons to give a reaction, successfully more often than not too. Much to my dismay.

See the difference is, if people refuse to OOC accept something and resolution is impossible then just ignoring them is fine. If you find that means you have to ignore everyone then you're just going to have to suck it up and realise that maybe, just maybe, you're wrong this time round and will have to learn to live with it.

I ignore a few people ingame because I find them persistently frustrating, for one reason or another. Not many! I'm a very friendly person really, but I don't want to get into a OOC shouting match with them because that's pointless. IC though I love heated debates! Though sadly not everyone else does, but I'm grown up enough to realize if no one else is enjoying it to not do it. Rather than complain loudly about how everyone else is stupid for not agreeing with me.

It's a weird quirk of roleplayers and geeks/nerds in general that we expect EVERYONE to get along just because they share a common interest. Which is ridiculous, we won't all get along and agree with everything everyone else has to say and that's fine! It's normal! We don't want to exclude anyone from Unionverse RP (Well okay, people not on Union, but the clues in the name) but we're not going to make a special effort to include people who really aren't doing themselves any favours. I know Ammon and CB think they're really, really, right on this one but the fact is no one else is willing to swallow it and that is essentially the important thing. Arguing further is pretty much pointless here. If anyone tells me OOC my characters I've chosen NOT to go down the Incarnate path have 'got' to be snacking on Incarnate Shards as they're using the abilities in combat and that means I'm weak to X or have to do Y, then I'm going to be ignoring them. I don't gimp myself for RP when going into combat in an MMO, some people are that dedicated but I'm not one of them. I'd happily do it in PnP but that's a different beast altogether! Which isn't to say I base my characters power on said combat. I don't. I've had characters go down in one text fight punch or accepted that someone is too powerful for me to take even when I could have pasted the walls with them in the Arena. But that's only because I chose to accept that at the time, they never said I had too.

So really it's all about mutual consent. Or just acting like grown ups!

So yeah. My attempt to explain how we Unionverse people are really quite nice people who want to build a shared universe. But we're not pushovers and that no one is entitled to be a part of it if they're not making an effort to fit in.

You may now ignore this hopefully reasonable post in favour of some angry comment someone made and complain about how everyone is SO MEAN, as is the way of the internet since ages long past.

QR: Sorry Techbot... but notice the *qualifier* that i said... the "main groups"

I know that there are other groups out there, ones that do not use this official board to get into it... but unfortunately, as someone who IS looking to get into the RP side here... well lets just say, that the personalities of some forum goers are not what I would like to invest time in, especially with the bickering going on like spoilt kids, just trying to get the last word in...

Guess I shall just stick it out, and wait for everything to calm down before I do get into roleplaying here... thing is, there is quite a bit that it appears that I have to read up on just so that I dont make any mistakes and get lynched for it... because that does appear to happen to those who make mistakes in their plots..

*shrugs*

Guess a whole shared universe, where unfortunately some people want to get involved with everything, and then cry/scream/whine when stuff isn't "suitable" for them... (granted, a mistake was made in the death toll, but that got retconned, and EVEN THEN people were still going... "oh ****, I would have been involved with this at the start....but I didn't like the person running the plot etc etc" (well, that is how it appeared to me)

See.... you cant please everyone, and unfortunately, the main RP'ers here have put me off from RPing in CoX on the forums, and with the main plot lines that may occour from now on... guess I shall just have to sit back and not think about it, and just stay away from forum RP, and stick to ingame...

And to be honest, there doesn't seem to be much "new stuff" aimed for the newer people (or maybe less casual) groups...

Corrections/information related to necessary links for "how to get into the groups here" would be greatly appreciated, unfortunately, my 1st few experiances of just trying to talk at GG all those years ago didnt go down well for me, as I was just ignored when i tried to talk to people in local.... >.>