Isn't this thread a little on the late side?
I was unaware AE was still that popular. Yes, I know some people use it to farm and whatnot, but it long ago ceased to be the PL'ing tool it was during its initial release.
Your post is both late and uninformed. Quite honestly, the only place I see AE farms broadcast about is Freedumb. Market crash? You're kidding, right? You are aware those drops come from normal mobs as well (or sometimes exclusively, in the case of purples,) right? Not to mention the PVP IOs that you can't do jack about getting from AE?
Now, personally, *I* would be pissed, because I - like many others - have actual story arcs I've worked on and run, and others in the works. Don't care about rating, they're fun for me to come up with and go through.
There's also the side issue that it's a very convenient place to pick up inspirations before you have contacts offering them to you.
Though I must admit, every time I see one of these threads pop up, the first thing that comes to mind is "Ahh. So here's someone who was using an exploit that just got closed."
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Are you serious?... At the current moment it is being ransacked for its goodies, my friend got from 1-50 in two days doing the same mission in AE without a 50 farming him, I find that quite ridiculous. Unless i'm just going psycho. It still seems quite popular
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Originally Posted by Steel_Shaman
Isn't this thread a little on the late side?
I was unaware AE was still that popular. Yes, I know some people use it to farm and whatnot, but it long ago ceased to be the PL'ing tool it was during its initial release. |
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Ouch. His loss. |
Originally Posted by Amazing_Guy
my friend got from 1-50 in two days doing the same mission in AE without a 50 farming him
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Biiiiig loss.
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I well, I see what you mean, Maybe not a market crash, I'm most likely being mis-informative, My apologies. I was just curious still, what exactly were to happen if AE disappeared, and I do play on 'freedum' because I used to play on Protector and now it is a graveyard, so at the time I transfered over, i moved to the most populated server.
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Originally Posted by Memphis_Bill
Your post is both late and uninformed. Quite honestly, the only place I see AE farms broadcast about is Freedumb. Market crash? You're kidding, right? You are aware those drops come from normal mobs as well (or sometimes exclusively, in the case of purples,) right? Not to mention the PVP IOs that you can't do jack about getting from AE?
Now, personally, *I* would be pissed, because I - like many others - have actual story arcs I've worked on and run, and others in the works. Don't care about rating, they're fun for me to come up with and go through. There's also the side issue that it's a very convenient place to pick up inspirations before you have contacts offering them to you. |
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I am not saying anything about AE, im just saying this is what I heard from him, just stating the facts.
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Originally Posted by DumpleBerry
Ouch. His loss.
Biiiiig loss. |
You're going psycho.
I'd be pissed. Because I'm using it to make a start on re-writing all the low level dross that the Devs seem to refuse to revamp. So, hey, I'll do it myself. Even if the tools seem meh compared to what the Devs can do. Considering the one in my sig took an evening and a day to knock out in full, it's simply brain draining to come up with a good reason why the pre-Paragon Studios arcs havent been cleaned up a metric crapton.
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Originally Posted by Zwillinger
GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon
NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.
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Originally Posted by Amazing_Guy
my friend got from 1-50 in two days doing the same mission in AE
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@Golden Girl
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You dont understand how many 50s i have had ask me how to get to Founders falls or some other city zone was, and ive kicked or gotten extremely impatient with them, I cannot stand the fact that 50s do not know how to get out of Atlas Park, and in past posts, I know, it has gotten better, but still, Its out of hand. You should have to have a 50 BEFORE you can do AE... like an unlock...
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Originally Posted by Golden Girl
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Yeah AE farming/PLing is still around. "Exploits" are still being removed. New ones are still being found.
Power leveling is about the worst reason I can think of for losing the mission creator.
Those people who are power leveling to 50 in two days? They'd be doing the exact same thing out in the game world. It might take them three days because they had to move around a bit.
There's no helping someone like that. I certainly wouldn't hold an extreme Achiever type up as an example of how the game needs to be changed. Those people are the type that only care about hitting max level. They don't care about playing the game. They only care about the number at the end.
And it IS the end, for them, since this game doesn't have a traditional end game.
Those people do not represent a typical player.
To answer the question, though, you'd make a lot of people angry, and a lot of people indifferent, and the end result would be a loss of content without very much overall effect on the other aspects of the game.
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I know what your saying, I just wanted Opinions is all. I think it would be interesting if City of heroes after the next Update tried to make a reason for hitting 50, but thats just me thinking outloud, probably totally preposterous to happen.
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Originally Posted by SlickRiptide
Power leveling is about the worst reason I can think of for losing the mission creator.
Those people who are power leveling to 50 in two days? They'd be doing the exact same thing out in the game world. It might take them three days because they had to move around a bit. There's no helping someone like that. I certainly wouldn't hold an extreme Achiever type up as an example of how the game needs to be changed. Those people are the type that only care about hitting max level. They don't care about playing the game. They only care about the number at the end. And it IS the end, for them, since this game doesn't have a traditional end game. Those people do not represent a typical player. To answer the question, though, you'd make a lot of people angry, and a lot of people indifferent, and the end result would be a loss of content without very much overall effect on the other aspects of the game. |
Yes AE farming still exists. Yes it is probably more popular than the honest to goodness story arcs on there. But that doesn't mean that there aren't hundreds of arcs as good or better than dev created stories in the AE. The only problem is finding them under all the trash.
AE is one of the things that really sets this game apart.
It would be a sad day if AE was removed.
I think eventually AE will live up to it's potential
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I'm not sure we're thinking the same thing. AE has some AWESOME stories in it, but if your buddy hit 50 in a few hours...he skipped EVERYTHING. He skipped every single thing in the game. And for what? Fifteen bucks?|
Originally Posted by Amazing_Guy
I am not saying anything about AE, im just saying this is what I heard from him, just stating the facts.
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What a waste.
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AE is most certainly still broken. I joined a team the other day with my level 4. I did so because there were no sewer teams available. I haven't been in the game a while and didn't know AE farming was still going on, I figured it was just some RPers I was joining.
About eight to ten minutes later I was level 23.
I was leveling so fast I wasn't even sure it was me that was leveling. I figured it was my teammates I kept seeing ding. You can powerlevel in there probably about 3 times as fast as people did doing the Winterlords a few years ago.
Just FYI...
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Originally Posted by Amazing_Guy
I know what your saying, I just wanted Opinions is all. I think it would be interesting if City of heroes after the next Update tried to make a reason for hitting 50, but thats just me thinking outloud, probably totally preposterous to happen.
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They already did that. They're called Epic Archetypes, and tying unlocks to lvl 50 was something they've said they would never do again.
Furio--Lvl 50+3 Fire/Fire/Fire Blaster, Virtue
Megadeth--Lvl 50+3 Necro/DM/Soul MM, Virtue
Veriandros--Lvl 50+3 Crab Soldier, Virtue
"So come and get me! I'll be waiting for ye, with a whiff of the old brimstone. I'm a grim bloody fable, with an unhappy bloody end!" Demoman, TF2
It isn't as big as it once was, the days of the Rikti Comm/Hami Bubble farms being the norm are long gone.
Though I did amuse myself while buying salvage in steel canyon that there was one guy in broadcast asking for an AE PL for a solid 20 minutes with no answer, throwing a huff and then quitting.
Probably should have sent him to Atlas if that's the thing he wanted but eh.
Though I do find it interesting that the most prolific EU farmers are more 'I don't need the extra bodies, I just need the company' and will bring along lowbies just for someone to talk to.
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Im not doubting you sir, Im just saying my friend told me that, I have done it once, not as fast, I will not lie. But it wasn't worth it and i totally regret doing it, which is now why i oppose AE use as a farm mechanism. I have done several stories and I agree they are great! I have made one myself. I meant to say, Im not saying anything about AE when he got there that quickly, I was clearly just stating that at the current moment there are missions that will get you to 50 way too fast, I'm pretty sure if you were on longer enough, you'd possibly hit 50 in several hours. Which is why I find AE to be a cheat code for noobs who don't know any better. (no offense to noobs in any way)
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Originally Posted by DumpleBerry
I'm not sure we're thinking the same thing. AE has some AWESOME stories in it, but if your buddy hit 50 in a few hours...he skipped EVERYTHING. He skipped every single thing in the game. And for what? Fifteen bucks?
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I was refering something TO DO when you hit 50, like extra material when you hit 50, I know theres STF and RSF, but I was thinking something more substantial. And as i said, it was preposterous they would ever do anything, and epic archetypes are now unlocked at 20, which is crazy... It was new information for me, I hadn't played the game in awhile and didn't know, almost bet someone 2 billion Inf that it was 50 not 20, dastardly mistake that actually almost happened.
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Originally Posted by Furio
They already did that. They're called Epic Archetypes, and tying unlocks to lvl 50 was something they've said they would never do again.
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I started the game in October 2004, and it took me a couple months/year or so to hit 50 because i explored almost every archetype and toon at the time, and my first was a Katana/Regen Scrapper on protector, he still has lvl 50++ SOs and HOs slotted in him from back in the day. Probably my greatest achievement as a toon, when I had the MOST fun. It just doesn't seem as epic when i get a 50 anymore, hitting 50 was like an honor almost.. at least to me it seemed like.
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Originally Posted by Dr_Mechano
It isn't as big as it once was, the days of the Rikti Comm/Hami Bubble farms being the norm are long gone.
Though I did amuse myself while buying salvage in steel canyon that there was one guy in broadcast asking for an AE PL for a solid 20 minutes with no answer, throwing a huff and then quitting. Probably should have sent him to Atlas if that's the thing he wanted but eh. Though I do find it interesting that the most prolific EU farmers are more 'I don't need the extra bodies, I just need the company' and will bring along lowbies just for someone to talk to. |
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Like you mean Incarnates?|
Originally Posted by Amazing_Guy
I was refering something TO DO when you hit 50, like extra material when you hit 50, I know theres STF and RSF, but I was thinking something more substantial.
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Originally Posted by DumpleBerry
I'm not sure we're thinking the same thing. AE has some AWESOME stories in it, but if your buddy hit 50 in a few hours...he skipped EVERYTHING. He skipped every single thing in the game. And for what? Fifteen bucks?
What a waste. |
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Ah, I missed the special arrogance of the CoH forumites when I was on my break from the game. So because they don't play the way you play that means "they don't care about playing the game"? Maybe for some people they just enjoy playing at a high level a lot more than they want to play at a low level.|
Originally Posted by SlickRiptide
Those people who are power leveling to 50 in two days? They'd be doing the exact same thing out in the game world. It might take them three days because they had to move around a bit.
There's no helping someone like that. I certainly wouldn't hold an extreme Achiever type up as an example of how the game needs to be changed. Those people are the type that only care about hitting max level. They don't care about playing the game. They only care about the number at the end. And it IS the end, for them, since this game doesn't have a traditional end game. |
No that can't be it, because that isn't the way you play! How silly of me to think different people could possibly want to play in different ways...
You should write a guide or something on the correct way to play so others don't make the same mistake. I think it would be a fantastic read!
What do you think would happen if the game went back to being like pre-ae times and they just removed AE entirely from content. Other than the fact the market would most likely crash, and MANY noobs (no offense), would leave the game because they would have to venture outside Atlas Park for the first time in their lives, Any comments?