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cox 2010 3rd quarter earnings

Ad Astra

By Ad Astra,
Posted on: 2010-11-09 17:03 in CoH and CoV General Discussions

 

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can you link a source for those numbers?

 

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Originally Posted by warden_de_dios View Post
can you link a source for those numbers?
I would prefer context, but we'll have to take what we can get.

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But, soft! what light through yonder window breaks?

Discuss.

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What I'd really like to see is how much of that 5 million dollars is being split up. How much is reinvestment, payroll, maintenance, bandwidth, profit, etc... not with any preconceptions of course. It'd just be cool to see where all that money goes. Of course unless I become an NCsoft exec, I doubt I'll ever know :P

 

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But, soft! what light through yonder window breaks?

Discuss.
That's a streetlamp

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Intriguing

I used to own a big, nice restaurant and numbers CAN be "moved around" to prove anything and everything
That being said from my gut feeling AND from player-base data and info gathering I think it is overall pretty sound.
Re-investing, payroll(s), design, equipment upkeep/purchases, advertising (which is a JOKE) and such will make the pie cut up into a LOT of slices.
But then again..... quite natural for a company/product of this size.

I have never questioned ownership/upper-management etc about the CoX franchise in any form when it comes to finances.....
but I have ALWAYS wished there would be MORE "advertising" and such.

Don't get me wrong... word of mouth is the BEST "long-term" form of it.
But in this technological age that we live in.... I would love to see something worked out where some more "conventional" forms were given their due.

TV and Magazines come to mind..... but that is just a pipe-dream LOL
Believe me.... I get SICK of seeing WoW or other games' tv commercials when I know that CoX is soooOoooOooOoo much better on many levels.

Oh well

Sorry to get on that "rant"




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Thanks!

A larger slice of a smaller pie. Not bad. We'll never know the nuances of the matter, but it can't be a bad thing.

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Is Aion a massive success in Asia? Its the biggest source of income on that bar graph.

 

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It must be. I don't know more than maybe 2 or 3 people in my whole online group that have ever even heard of it.

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bad context in your 1st post leandro.

follow the link, look at cox numbers, think about cox numbers with the "big picture" in mind, then come back and discuss cox numbers NOT other ncsoft numbers.

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Originally Posted by Leandro View Post
For even more context, here's a graph of how much money COH was earning from release to i16:



Please note that the figures are not adjusted for inflation.
I never knew it had been performing so consistantly - apart from the CoV launch period

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Doom.

Discuss.

 

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Originally Posted by OPTICAL_ILLUSION View Post
bad context in your 1st post leandro.

follow the link, look at cox numbers, think about cox numbers with the "big picture" in mind, then come back and discuss cox numbers NOT other ncsoft numbers.
Um, Optical: that graph is the only place in the report where COH is directly named. There's no other context directly related to COH to find in that report.

Moving on: in this post from January of this year, Arcanaville posted a table with the numbers converted to USD based on the exchange rate at the time of the report. I'm going to PM her and see if she can post an updated version with a pretty graph.

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Originally Posted by OPTICAL_ILLUSION View Post
bad context in your 1st post leandro.

follow the link, look at cox numbers, think about cox numbers with the "big picture" in mind, then come back and discuss cox numbers NOT other ncsoft numbers.

By big picture, if you mean like in their sales goal for the year then i'd say i'm not confident they'll make their 2010 guidance figure of 19 billion won (which by the way, is the lowest sales goal corporate has set for CoX since launch). The first 2 quarters were down by half and the 3rd quarter sales didn't even double. So far they have 12.6 billion won with one quarter to make the remaining 6.4 billion.

Yes 3rd quarter sales is about a 60% increase from the previous quarter but that quarter and the one before it were both down by about half each from their YoY

3Q 2010 is a bit higher but close to the previous year of 5.5 billion won (3Q 2009) and that quarter didn't have a major expansion release like this one does.


EDIT: To add some additional context, although it involves some "guesstimations":

The increased amount from 2Q to 3Q is 2,218,000,000 won with the average exchange rate for that quarter being 0.00085 USD (ask price) that would be about 1.9 million US dollars. If that is entirely from GR sales (the $40 one) that would make about 47k units sold, or perhaps 47k ish accounts/players bought GR...ballpark figure i think.

EDIT2: Oh just glazed over it the first read through but...the report's 5,709 number is in millions krw so it's actually 5,709,000,000 krw (hehe nitpick i know)

 

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Originally Posted by Magellen View Post
Intriguing

I used to own a big, nice restaurant and numbers CAN be "moved around" to prove anything and everything :
How's that saying go? "Numbers dont lie, but liars make the number"


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Um, Optical: that graph is the only place in the report where COH is directly named. There's no other context directly related to COH to find in that report.
ir consolidated factsheet then click on game sales is another place but we don't want to post that one either.

this is public info but let us all leave out other ncsoft products from this discussion.

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Originally Posted by Black_Barrier
Guess it's hard to click while actively trying to keep the drool away from the keyboard...

 

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We don't have enough information to discuss, but players intend to do so anyway.

Discuss.

 

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Originally Posted by Schismatrix View Post
He's at it again, whatever it is. No need to discuss-muss.

Just drop off the key, Lee...
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It would appear that at least one (1) person(s) played City of Heroes this fiscal quarter.

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