2 billion per enhancer

Let's imagine that the market didn't exist, but the invention system and sets are available. Hero A wants PVP IO x and broadcasts in game:

[Hero A]: wanted to trade, PVP IO x, pst

Since the PVP IO is super rare, it takes several days for a reply.

[Seller]: I got it. what will you trade?
[Hero A]: I'll give you a set of Oblits.
[Seller]: Sry, dude, I traded one last month for a Ragnorak set and 1 bil.
[Hero A]: I'll add 2 Hecatombs.
[Seller]: Dude don't waste my time.
[Hero A]: 3 Hecas and 200 mil.

...
No reply from seller.

[Hero A]: #$%@!
[Hero A]: wanted to trade, PVP IO x, pst

Whether the market exists or not, the prices are set by players themselves.
If one doesn't pvp or farm purples, the devs have created the alignment reward system and made a lot of rare ios available for direct purchase with A-merits, thus giving an alternative to buying from other players.

If one thinks that buying from the market or collecting A-merits is too much in order to get such-and-such IO, then one can submit a suggestion on the amount of effort one is willing to make to the devs in game or on the website.

Now assume that the infamy cap is 5 billion. Would rare IOs sell for more than 2 bill? My guess is yes. The infamy cap is actually limiting the price of rare IOs on the market. However, one can get around the limit and it is possible pay for a rare IO with more than 2 bill via multiple trades or gleemail.

I think that may be semi-intentional.

I guess, I never cared about this. Sure, I marketeer idly, and I even have a character with a miracle +recovery proc. But I don't care much about outfitting my characters super well. I've yet to break 35th level, at all, on any character. I have a ton of characters outfitted with a mix of yellow and occasional orange IOs that are ten or so levels out of date. I group a fair bit, because it's fun.

I think the game is pretty much working; getting the super awesome stuff requires you to either play a whole lot or take time away from the Really Fun Activities to do other stuff, and that's about normal for the genre.

I have a DO'd elec/ice dominator who hits 40m a minute sitting on his *** in Wentworths. Farming's for chumps.

Heroes, Villains ♦ Reviews ♦ Retrospect

Besides the insults the worst thing about this thread is that it has got me thinking about how sucky my build really is lol. But, I am staying true to the concept. The law of diminishing returns for Recharge (the element I have chosen to focus on) is very serious. Now at 120% Global rech, no speed set. Just passive recharge. I can pretty easily (another 2 bill push it to 127.5%, maybe 131%) but am unsure, looking closely at my budget slotting on the rest of the guy. To those who honestly want to know why so much recharge on a brute, beyond concept, the build is Dark/Invul. Therefore my attacks are weird/special. The AoE attack that replaces my end needs to be up ASAP, Same with my Combat attack heal, and Dull Pain. Also, for the peace de resistance, my AoE attack that acts as a Buff to Acc/Dam is getting close to being up all the time. So, for this particular strange build, it is more important for rech to be paramount, since it in effect enheances by green bar/my blue bar/my attack strength. Weird, but it is a very odd brute.

Again, thank you for so much interest in this post. Thank you for the thoughtful comments, even thanks for the insults. That which does not kill me makes me stronger. For those whose insults are non constructive, well, take a moment and imagine what I really think of you. Pretty sure it is easy, based on most of the truly negative stuff I have read here, those few writers have really poor opinions of themselves (and mediocre literary skills at best). Okay, that was my parting shot.

I will try to read this thread fully again over the next couple days. I will share with everyone soon the letter I will send to the Devs, I have a fun idea or two to throw at them to manage the market in a sustainable non manipulatable way.

Have a great day in the cities.

BC

Pound sand.

As an avid user of a Dark/Fire brute, I can honestly say, "Why in the world do you feel you NEEEEEED that much recharge?" Having Dark Consumption up often is great, don't get me wrong, but is it a primary part of your attack chain? With that much rech, your Dark primary attacks must all tumble over each other, so yes, they're up often, but if they're al recharged at the same time, there's no real synergy there.

I think you may want to actually consult with some of the Dark/ experts around here, for example, for advice on how to to optimize (note, I used that word in place of Maximize) your build. Having ALL ALL ALL of the shiniest expensive toys is almost never the best way to 'pimp' out a build. And the devs never wanted the 'norm' to be people wanting and easily getting ALL ALL ALL of the shiniest expensive toys. To mangle a phrase, "If everyone is special, no one is special."

For example, when an extra 2B inf gets you 10% more recharge, and that 10% results in a 0.2 second improvement in the actual recharge time of your powers, it may be time to call a plumber.

I think most of this has been said multiple times in this thread, so I'm likely just repeating the wisdom already shared.

Oh yeah, with that much +rech, One (I repeat ONE!) power from One power pool (hasten) can give you +70% (wait, let me repeat that a moment... 70%!!!!) more recharge, PERMA, ie, ALWAYS UP. How can this not be worth it???????

If you say Rech is paramount, then this is a no brainer. If it is not a no brainer to you, then ... that word "paramount"... I don't think it means what you think it means.

I do think you might be going overboard on +recharge with that combination.

If you haven't already, you might consider fishing for build suggestions on the Scrapper forums. (Yes, even though it's a brute.) One of the least controversial ways to approach it would be to just ask for suggested builds, but if you want to offer your existing build up for critique and suggestions, they'll be happy do do so.

If you just ask for general ideas, I suspect they're going to suggest things with less recharge and more +defense. I don't know how much +defense your build has, but at 120% global recharge from sets alone, and having put together a few high-defense /Invul builds myself, I'm going to guess not a huge amount.

I will be experimenting with hasten for i19 the 1st week, lot of playtesting. But seriously, the reason I need a lot of rech is the End restoration tool. Also, this is not an AoE heavy build, but with this much recharge my Soul Mastery AoE is up very often. Also, my ranged heavy Soul Mastery attack is up often too, becoming a vital part of my attack chain. As you prob realize, both those attacks are fully purp'd and hit quite heavy. Also, as pointed out, my dark attacks are always up. Is it needed, no, is it useful, sometimes. So, the theory behind the build is this, tons of recharge, bringing up my Dull Pain to perma+, my End restore attack so that even on my end heavy build it is up before my blue is gone, even in heavy non-stop combat. Also, bringing up my heavy and ranged attacks (very few) so that they are leaned on as part of my standard attack chain. Is it the way most people do it, no. Are most people right, sure, probably. Does it work? This is not my 1st 50 brute. He runs content pretty mean. I am sure that a heavily +def build invul would be tougher in general. Then again, that +def, while effective 85% of the time, can be nerfed, or gotten around. Rech is almost never nerfed, maybe 1% of time or less in standard play. THe build is darned sturdy for a melee damage dealer. He passes my Fab Paragon Protector hunt test with flying colors. I realize hard core Brutes might laugh at this, but that is not easy content for most to street hunt. Havent tried to solo a Ritki Pylon yet. I guess because I havent figured out why that seems smart, but I know a lot of people do. Anyways, I keep adding to my tool chest. Thanks for adding to my ideas.

Oh, and prequel to the ideas hinted at before when I said I would be writing the devs. (Begging for insults, I know)

Here goes. How about the Market has a "Buy it Now" option on everything. Every single item, salvage, recipe (maybe not crafted enhancers?), wings, etc. Have enhancers be 2x what is found at the stores. Have salvage be a % above what they are bought back by the stores, Maybe 100x?, so 250 common salvage is Buy it Now at 25000 at market. Recipes, depending on type, up to 500 Mil Buy it now PvP, 250 Mil Purp, 200 Mil Global/Proc, 125 Mil Fancy recipe, and 50 Mil common recipe, or some such. In this way the Devs can control the Market price, by simply saying, "it is stupid to pay more than X amount for something, equivalent to approx X hours at 50 content, and our more average players will not be ripped off by market griefers, so we protect our game/investment by protecting the bulk of our players from the few "I wanna be Enron" types every game accumulates. It would also still keep the market active in the areas under the cap, lots of Purps sell below 250, same PvP. Lots of common salvage sells for below 25k, so the market would still be viable, just capped by common sense tops the Devs institute.

Okay, let me have it (especially you Enron-types). But seriously, any thoughtful feedback on this? Thanks.