Discussion: What's your Origin?
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Acroyear2,
Posted on: 2010-10-20 11:38 in News, Events and Announcement Discussion
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Sure! "Unprofessional" is a motif for heroes all the time and as our culture moves into a fascination with being able to identify more and more with heroes, this is a totally viable path.|
Originally Posted by Hallowed
So not "natural", but "cheap/crappy".
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But... Batman and Daredevil don't sparkle. You're a Twilight fan, aren't ya?!? Now if you want a "teeth-sparkle" (gleaming teeth) or "eye sparkle" (twinkle in the eye), we can talk... |
Yeah, I admit my Aura idea is weak...
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| That's your interpretation. Not saying it's invalid, just not the necessarily the official one, or one shared by all others. |
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Oh don't get me wrong, I'd love a towel/blanket tied around the neck as a cape option. It's just not any more or less "natural" than a well-made one.|
Originally Posted by Marcian Tobay
Sure! "Unprofessional" is a motif for heroes all the time and as our culture moves into a fascination with being able to identify more and more with heroes, this is a totally viable path.
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| Huh. I thought it was canon. I'll see if I can find something to back myself up. Until then, I'll consider myself CORRECTED. |
EDIT: The actual text:
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| You aren't 'super' at all; your amazing talents come from intense training and innate abilities. You might have been driven to physical excellence by some all-encompassing desire for perfection or revenge, or perhaps you are not human at all, and possess powers natural to your race. With your natural origin you have to rely on your cunning and skill. This origin will give you access to Throwing Knives. This attack has a very short range and deals minor Lethal damage, as well as inflicting additional Damage over Time. |
Nah, it is canon. I think it mentions such things in the Origin write-up...
If not... I will stand (or sit) corrected!
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Oh, I meant to add a bit more...
Just that each origin has a very wide interpretation and that whenever someone tries to represent that with just one example... It's not going to be able to represent every angle.
Natural origin can be an alien who has abilities beyond normal humans or it could be a human who has trained and pushed him or herself to their peak ability, and so on.
The "nature" aspect is, no doubt, questionable... But... Meh... Who cares... it's some cool stuff 
We'll get more "Natural" stuff some other way!
@Zethustra
"Now at midnight all the agents and the superhuman crew come out
and round up everyone that knows more than they do"-Dylan
and round up everyone that knows more than they do"-Dylan
Thanks for the exact quote, Hallowed. That supports my belief more, I think, and I appreciate your taking the time to look it up. Rock on.
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"It's joined the bleedin' Choir Invisible!"
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Originally Posted by Dark_Respite
The hell with parrots, I want a LOBSTER as a shoulder pet!
Actually, what would take this to Eleven on the Awesome Scale is if we also had the option of a DEAD parrot as a shoulder pet. Michelle aka Samuraiko/Dark_Respite |
There is no such thing as an "innocent bystander"
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right, thats what i was going with too, a natural character is one who'se powers are primarily unaugmented by magic/tech, mutation or science. thats why in the other thread i mentioned dragons, werewolves or aliens. all natural.|
Originally Posted by Marcian Tobay
Thanks for the exact quote, Hallowed. That supports my belief more, I think, and I appreciate your taking the time to look it up. Rock on.
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thats one reason it is so tough to get a fix on, we had complaints with the martial arts pack too, that not all natural heroes are martial artists(some people said ninja, i gritted my teeth because the swords and hair styles were Chinese, the helmets chinese/korean action film influenced and the robes tenuous link to ninja was by way of mortal kombat). but yeah, its martial artists, soldiers, savants, super-spies, athletes, street tough heroes, gumshoes, batman, and all manner of fantastic creatures that are empowered by their natural racial characteristics. hitting any one of those marks will leave the rest unfulfilled, so perhaps its best to just keep an open mind and realize its a broad target to hit and hope next time its your turn.
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I've been enjoying the discussion...noticed this as well <grabs more popcorn> |
Originally Posted by Hallowed
At this point, the posts replying to/mocking/arguing with far outnumber the (mostly simply stated) posts stating "no thanks/will not buy".
Which "side", exactly, are the "histrionics" occurring on?  |
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I'm not.|
Originally Posted by Acroyear2
Since you seem to be swimming in money....
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Ten bucks is just chump change.
As noted, it's one movie ticket, or a paperback, or a couple of comic books, or a meal at a fast food joint.
I can afford the infrastructure necessary to run the game, I can afford the subscription, and I can afford to periodically drop a few dollars on fun perks for my characters. Not because I'm Bill Gates, because ten bucks is cheap.
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| why don't you purchase the new booster pack for all of us you can't afford it and the small amount of content provided within? It must be nice to live in your world of wealth and leisure. |
Good luck out there!
The Nethergoat Archive: all my memories, all my characters, all my thoughts on CoH...eventually.
My City Was Gone
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Ah, the irony.
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Originally Posted by Exodus_V
I've been enjoying the discussion...noticed this as well <grabs more popcorn>
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oh forgot one topic that i just thought of now, issue 17 had a distinction of more than "just tails". tails were seperated from belts to their own area. this had two effects.1. tails could now be used with belts, for some, that added a dimension to the customization.2. tails now could be used with robes, togas and other previously unavailable combinations of pieces. This was a big thing for players of monstrous characters.
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Originally Posted by Gaspard
Ok, I just remembered it was during year 2008, without thinking about the actual date not to mention to look it up, that was my bad. I had completely forgotten animated tails, again that was my bad. I'm a little bit skeptic about issue 16, then again I play VEATs.
Issue 17, had the most recent costume pieces I had, but again, paid update, not included withint monthly subscription. Of course I look forward to next issue hoping it can remedy. But yeah, my bad for forgetting some of the costume pieces. I however still feel that majority of the costume sets and good looking pieces have been with paid expansions. |
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This is probably the biggest failure in reading comprehension I've come across in quite some time. The booster is a luxury you will have forever without additional cost and not a one time thing like cigarettes, alcohol, movie tickets or fast food.
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Originally Posted by Acroyear2
Since you seem to be swimming in money, why don't you purchase the new booster pack for all of us you can't afford it and the small amount of content provided within? It must be nice to live in your world of wealth and leisure. Not everyone is so blessed. But I guess you could not understand that from way up there on your high pedestal.
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Hehe...
How about this for a game...
Next person to talk about other people's money gets tarred and feathered! 
Let's all chill out and leave this thread for more on topic posts!
Like...
The more I look at it, the more that Nature Cape is looking really, supremely fascinatingly done.
The actual leaves sticking out on it (If I am seeing it correctly) is quite a nice and new look for any capes we have.
I'm very interested to see that thing in action and "in person" (so to speak).
EDIT: Oh, I suppose that the feather cape includes somewhat of the same element.
Still... it looks like some fine work.
@Zethustra
"Now at midnight all the agents and the superhuman crew come out
and round up everyone that knows more than they do"-Dylan
and round up everyone that knows more than they do"-Dylan
Oh hey...
And I am curious if the capes will all (or some) have all of the mantle options.
In the video, we see the full mantle and the Science one has the half mantle... It looks like the rest are all full mantles, but it is hard to tell (Mutant has the Reaper piece covering it up). I'm hoping we'll have the over the shoulders mantle (and asymmetrical mantle as well).
And... I am curious if the Ultramode reflectiveness is on the Impervium Mantle Cape's mantle as well.
Can an over the shoulder mantle have Ultramode reflections??
Kinda sweet, if possible... also understandable if not!
Just curious!
@Zethustra
"Now at midnight all the agents and the superhuman crew come out
and round up everyone that knows more than they do"-Dylan
and round up everyone that knows more than they do"-Dylan
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Actually Mr. DJ, I could be wrong, but the way I took this was that Acroyear2 seems to be tired of Nethergoat's condescending manner and was trying to "put him in his place". Didn't do the greatest job of it though.
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Originally Posted by Mr. DJ
This is probably the biggest failure in reading comprehension I've come across in quite some time. The booster is a luxury you will have forever without additional cost and not a one time thing like cigarettes, alcohol, movie tickets or fast food.
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If that's the case...*looks for bottle of aspirin*
Although I get that I'm quite late to reply, I would like to bundle in with the guys that think that this is overpriced.
If super boosters are ten bucks and aesthetic packs are less, then this should cost less. I won't deny that this pack is right down my street, so I'll probably be buying it regardless; I don't really like that I will, or think it fair that I'll be paying the price of a super booster for something less.
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I'm glad you have the money to waste on tar and feathers... |
Originally Posted by Electric-Knight
Hehe...
How about this for a game... Next person to talk about other people's money gets tarred and feathered! Let's all chill out and leave this thread for more on topic posts! |
<runs>
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You're voting with your wallet, so if you buy it you're telling them it's a fair price |
Originally Posted by StormSurvivor
Although I get that I'm quite late to reply, I would like to bundle in with the guys that think that this is overpriced.
If super boosters are ten bucks and aesthetic packs are less, then this should cost less. I won't deny that this pack is right down my street, so I'll probably be buying it regardless; I don't really like that I will, or think it fair that I'll be paying the price of a super booster for something less. |
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The mutant stuff doesn't look that appealing from the trailer (auras seem similar to ones we already have), but the stuff for the other origins ranges from cool to genuinely inspired.|
Originally Posted by Electric-Knight
Let's all chill out and leave this thread for more on topic posts!
Like... The more I look at it, the more that Nature Cape is looking really, supremely fascinatingly done. The actual leaves sticking out on it (If I am seeing it correctly) is quite a nice and new look for any capes we have. I'm very interested to see that thing in action and "in person" (so to speak). |
The capes have less interest for me than the auras, but I'm sure I'll use both and I look forward to seeing what the really accomplished costume designers do with the capes.
The Nethergoat Archive: all my memories, all my characters, all my thoughts on CoH...eventually.
My City Was Gone
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This I agree with. I will give the mutant stuff a look because it would be nice to have some more understated vapor aura choices, but they seem a bit similar to what we have.
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Originally Posted by Nethergoat
The mutant stuff doesn't look that appealing from the trailer (auras seem similar to ones we already have), but the stuff for the other origins ranges from cool to genuinely inspired.
The capes have less interest for me than the auras, but I'm sure I'll use both and I look forward to seeing what the really accomplished costume designers do with the capes. |
"Null is as much an argument "for removing the cottage rule" as the moon being round is for buying tennis shoes." -Memphis Bill
I'd be picking this one up as it would be good for atleast 10 chars.
He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.
Big multi quote post coming... not sure why!
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I suppose we could spin it positively and say that they've under-priced the Super Boosters in the past.|
Originally Posted by StormSurvivor
Although I get that I'm quite late to reply, I would like to bundle in with the guys that think that this is overpriced.
If super boosters are ten bucks and aesthetic packs are less, then this should cost less. I won't deny that this pack is right down my street, so I'll probably be buying it regardless; I don't really like that I will, or think it fair that I'll be paying the price of a super booster for something less. |
Not that I necessarily believe this...
Honestly, another way to look at it is that the costs have gone up (as happens with everything) and instead of making boosters that they'd charge $15-20 for, they're keeping the price the same, but putting less into them.
Or... We're just wrong in thinking this way and the amount of hard work and talent that went into this pack is actually equal to the previous Super Boosters.
I do understand what you're saying though!
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Originally Posted by Hallowed
I'm glad you have the money to waste on tar and feathers...
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*initiates orbital laser-guided super tar cannon*
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Originally Posted by Lemur Lad
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Honestly, the cape may even be cooler used more subtly (subdued color in relation to the body... Although, I don't think I have any designs that would call for it).
I am curious about the toxic vapor one.
I'll have to see it firsthand to see if it may work to create the illusion of a nasty/foul/hardly-visible gaseous odor that could be found around Zox'Oculox's head and gaping mouth:
@Zethustra
"Now at midnight all the agents and the superhuman crew come out
and round up everyone that knows more than they do"-Dylan
and round up everyone that knows more than they do"-Dylan
$10 is too much for me. Why? Because I'm interested in one cape and one, maybe two, of the auras. So everyone who thinks $10 is great for 5 capes and 10 auras, I don't see it the same way.
With the super boosters, I got a lot more mileage out of them. The bonus power (or ability to change body types with Science) get used all the time on all my characters. The different costume parts get used on a variety of characters in various combinations. The thing I liked about those packs was that they focused on a given theme and if I didn't want something, say the Cyborg pack, I could skip it entirely.
But with the capes and auras of 5 different origins lumped in together, I have to pay for stuff I'm not even remotely interested in if I want the two or three things that do interest me. $10 is too much... and they should have created five new theme packs. That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it.
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It must be nice to be able to look at ten dollars as "chump change." Some of us are not so fortunate to have money spilling out of our pockets as you seem to have. Some of us have limited monies available for entertainment purposes. Many of us are using our common sense to can see that this new Booster Pack has less value for the price of ten dollars than the previous packs, and thus will not be purchasing it simply because we can put that ten dollars to better, smarter use. The fact that you are unable to comprehend that not everyone has "chump change" to throw around whenever they want speaks volumes to your inability to understand the realities of the real world.
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Originally Posted by Nethergoat
I'm not.
Ten bucks is just chump change. As noted, it's one movie ticket, or a paperback, or a couple of comic books, or a meal at a fast food joint. I can afford the infrastructure necessary to run the game, I can afford the subscription, and I can afford to periodically drop a few dollars on fun perks for my characters. Not because I'm Bill Gates, because ten bucks is cheap. Anyone who defines "wealth and leisure" as having a spare ten bucks to drop on a video game has bigger issues than the price point of this booster. Good luck out there! |
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I would want it to look like something that a person could make in their home with their own resources. If Kick-*** made a cape or something. It would have the shape and size of the traditional rectangular cape, but extremely subtle recurring patterns invoke recollections of the type of cloth one could buy in a store.
Subtle. Subtlety is key. I think what I'd want to do with this one is less based off of "Reality" and more based on how people
Faint sparkles and stars. Not like the stars we have now, no. More infrequent. Hecks, remake any of the other auras but more infrequent or subtle. An Earth-born natural hero is the most understated of heroes. Like Batman and Daredevil, there's the recurring implication that they are weaker than other heroes but compensate through something extraordinary. Batman uses his brains, whereas Daredevil's just really really well trained (His super-senses were retconned into "Not super powers, he just practices a lot" during the original Frank Miller run). Any auras that emphasize that are a win with me.
Now if you want a "teeth-sparkle" (gleaming teeth) or "eye sparkle" (twinkle in the eye), we can talk...