Discussion: What's your Origin?

More like calling a spade a spade than a Straw man. Every time someone invokes "the suits" or "Marketing" and complains about how we have to pay now when we didn't before, it's really not any different than the terms Nethergoat used. Just different codewords for the same concept.

Nethergoat isn't engaging the Hyperbolic drive, he's just pointing out when people crank it to Ludicrous Speed.

Well, if you've ever been to a weekend-long gaming con of any kind, then I think you'll agree that a "Stinklines" aura is a possible choice.

A second aura could be a special bright gleam that only rarely appears, centered on either an eye or the teeth.

As for the cape, how about a beach towel or bedsheet tied around the neck?

No. And you don't either, because we've had more costume content through the packs than we ever got for free over the same period of time. Plus, we are still getting free costume pieces at about the same rate as before too.

Since the dvd editions, there has always been paid costume options. The difference between free and paid ones, are that the paid ones are accessory extras, while the free ones are something new, or left out.

Capes, auras, more than 1 costume, moving tails, trench coats, are part of the fundamentals of the game, and not all of which were put in when COH went live.

There is always new costumes with updates, they just get less attention because they are free.

Different regimes? Stateman (jack) regime, no stateman (Positron, Babs, Castle regime?), now its dark (with no babs?).

I haven't really seen anyone who has been critical about boosters being hyperbolic. Even in the party pack thread majority of the people who were against it had reasonable and well thought out arguments, for example Tommy Troy.

Granted I could've worded my initial post way better and that was my fault. I didn't really mean to convey a concept that everything used to be free.

However I do not agree that the rate has been the same all the time coming up until this current point.

Then to you I say the same I've been saying to everyone else who feels that way in these threads. Prove it. It's not that complicated a thing to count and graph each release on a timeline and demonstrate this decline you "feel" is something genuine.

No one's done it yet. They just like to trust vague memories and even vaguer assertions about what that means for the future.

Uh, I did it. It's just that everyone is ignoring it. :P Look back one page.

You came up with a great list. I saw it and I agree. That's not the same thing as what I'm saying though. The main thing people are arguing here is a trend. A list doesn't demonstrate one way or the other. A graph with accurate counts of all free/paid changes would, because then you could determine a trendline.

Honestly, I expect the capes to look batter when people like bAss_ackwards [and at the danger of sounding like I'm tooting my own horn... me] get their hands on them. No disrespect to the devs, but the very best costumes I've seen are player-created.

The first issue to introduce new costume pieces was i2, which introduced capes.

The first paid booster was Sept 06, which was the GvE pack and included the GvE options separate from the combined game.

Technically speaking the first paid booster was the CoH Collector's edition Item pack.

Was that actually sold as a separate pack? If so, I stand corrected and the wiki should reflect that.

If you change it in the Costume screen (weapons) it counts as a costume.
If you change it in the power customization screen, it doesn't.

That's a simple and technical way to go about it, and even if some people don't agree stylistically, you have a firm methodology.

Yes. They sold small boxes with all the extras and a code for the ingame badge, power, and cape, but no DVD.

Yeah I thought so as well.

But I'm not too certain about comparing just numbers. For example if an issue provides an invert gladiator shoulder pad or inverted robotic arm or just a new pattern for lower body thights, booster offers one detailed chest piece or helmet, or vice versa.
At this point it'd be 1:1, but the other costume option is of higher quality in a way.

People are arguing that 5 capes and 10 auras "isn't enough" without stopping to take a look at qualitative concerns. Even though this argument is fundamentally a qualitative one (do you like the pieces enough to buy them) people are defending that position (or positing the trend) in a quantitative fashion.

My advice is don't get bogged down in qualitative issues. Each costume piece is going to have a totally different set of validating factors for each user. Since people are choosing to argue about numbers, stick to the numbers, and treat everything equally. I feel like that will average things out between generally useful and marginally useful items.

Better to be comprehensive than to cherry pick.

At this point, the posts replying to/mocking/arguing with far outnumber the (mostly simply stated) posts stating "no thanks/will not buy".

Which "side", exactly, are the "histrionics" occurring on?

i was thinking of a towel or sheet tied around the neck appearance. Two brooch options: knotted fabric or big safety pin.
Maybe a third cape that resembles a cheap children's costume cape. Short, shiny plastic finish, and the only brooch is a bow tied out of string.

LOL I totally want this!

Since you seem to be swimming in money, why don't you purchase the new booster pack for all of us you can't afford it and the small amount of content provided within? It must be nice to live in your world of wealth and leisure. Not everyone is so blessed. But I guess you could not understand that from way up there on your high pedestal.

This.

I don't think his view comes from a position of wealth, and I think you completely misunderstood his point. I can't afford the Boosters to this game at all, but I completely agree with him.

That's why I intend to save up for my aforementioned 1 Day Purchase, but if I fall short, that's my fault, not the developers.

Ditto, just like the costume packs the magic one is the best IMO and worth the cost on its own.