During the PAX Panel, Positron mentioned that a signed NDA will be required because they're 'introducing new systems that would be brand new to the game'. I'm paraphrasing here so that is not the EXACT quote, but that's pretty much the gist of it (I think the panel is up on Youtube somewhere if you wanna go back and listen). Of course, he did not go in to specifics but the way he was talking about it, it seemed like it was much more than just a couple of minor changes here and there. Posi's not really the typical marketing guy so for him to put it this way made it seem like it truly was a big deal.
20 is a pretty big milestone so I'm sure the team is really gonna try to make this one huge.
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Ah yes, can't forget they have Type-R programmers on the team.
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I stand by my previous statements.
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At the same panel in which the I20 pre-Beta was announced there was a huge powerpoint graphic that explained it was to test the End Game content.|
Originally Posted by blueruckus
During the PAX Panel, Positron mentioned that a signed NDA will be required because they're 'introducing new systems that would be brand new to the game'. I'm paraphrasing here so that is not the EXACT quote, but that's pretty much the gist of it (I think the panel is up on Youtube somewhere if you wanna go back and listen). Of course, he did not go in to specifics but the way he was talking about it, it seemed like it was much more than just a couple of minor changes here and there.
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Divorced from that information, the idea of a signed NDA led people to dream up all sorts of wild ideas about "What could possibly be the reason for A SIGNED NDA??!!!!!!"
The answer: A head start on testing End Game content.
Further speculation is unwarranted unless you want to speculate on what 'End Game content' is.
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At the same panel in which the I20 pre-Beta was announced there was a huge powerpoint graphic that explained it was to test the End Game content.
Divorced from that information, the idea of a signed NDA led people to dream up all sorts of wild ideas about "What could possibly be the reason for A SIGNED NDA??!!!!!!" The answer: A head start on testing End Game content. Further speculation is unwarranted unless you want to speculate on what 'End Game content' is. |
Ie....Hope for the best, expect the worst!
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I say let the people dream. They just need to remember, they may be dreaming bigger than what is actually there.
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I dont believe i20 is CoX2.0...there would have to be a dollar figure tied to the release if it was really that "BIG". Plus its a little close to the release of another expansion that we just paid for...however seeing as how people will pay for just about anything maybe the marketing logic behind a move like that(if it was to happen) isnt than doubt after-all.
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We should discourage that because I don't have enough time in a day to drink all the tears of those crying that I20 wasn't CoH2: The Pink Unicorn City of Everything I Always Wanted.
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Originally Posted by BrandX
I say let the people dream. They just need to remember, they may be dreaming bigger than what is actually there.
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An NDA could also mean that they're preparing some horrifying kind of punishment for us to go along with the Incarnate system 
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An NDA could also mean that they're preparing some horrifying kind of punishment for us to go along with the Incarnate system
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I was thinking more of diminishing returns in PvE or open world PvP
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*facepalm* ZMan says dont dream of all the neat things so you arnt disapointed so you decide to talk about all the bad things so if they dont happen you can be happy? Lets just decide that I20 will contain some form of content.
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*facepalm* ZMan says dont dream of all the neat things so you arnt disapointed so you decide to talk about all the bad things so if they dont happen you can be happy? Lets just decide that I20 will contain some form of content.
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I think WW said there was a map graphical upgrade coming.
Maybe real shadows for instanced missions?
I think I20 is 2-3 Incarnate slots in form of attacks.
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We should discourage that because I don't have enough time in a day to drink all the tears of those crying that I20 wasn't CoH2: The Pink Unicorn City of Everything I Always Wanted.
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GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.
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Originally Posted by Golden Girl
An NDA could also mean that they're preparing some horrifying kind of punishment for us to go along with the Incarnate system
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Issue 20;
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-From now on, all NPCs hair will be animated. To countermand the increased gfx requirements, however, only NPCs will be getting them. Also, we are removing the animation from capes to bring memory use back within acceptable levels.
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GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.
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Yup.
Issue 20; NPCs: -From now on, all NPCs hair will be animated. To countermand the increased gfx requirements, however, only NPCs will be getting them. Also, we are removing the animation from capes to bring memory use back within acceptable levels. |
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The similarities!
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Umm... Wow. I was speculating on the story for I19 and I20 and how the I think the Devs will use the invasion as an excuse to give the buildings in the game a face lift and remove the war walls.
How did this devolve into a discussion on the Signed NDA?
Honestly, I think the Signed NDA, had to do with the fact that they had people in a room, and said "hey, while there here, we can just have them sign something."
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No one signed an NDA at the panel.
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Originally Posted by Ice_Wall
Umm... Wow. I was speculating on the story for I19 and I20 and how the I think the Devs will use the invasion as an excuse to give the buildings in the game a face lift and remove the war walls.
How did this devolve into a discussion on the Signed NDA? Honestly, I think the Signed NDA, had to do with the fact that they had people in a room, and said "hey, while there here, we can just have them sign something." |
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Their decision to start testing I20 before I19 speaks to it being an unusual issue in some way.
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Originally Posted by Gehnen
I'm not convinced it's something super-groundbreaking. Since certain players didn't really respect the Closed Beta status of Going Rogue, they started to work on a rock-solid NDA. i19 is just around the corner, and their major enhancements were already announced, so the NDA they drafted just wasn't necessary until i20.
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Because it's something unusual for this game, so it's a big clue that something unusual might be happening in I20.
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How did this devolve into a discussion on the Signed NDA?
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How did this devolve into a discussion on the Signed NDA? |
The reason for the signed NDA is perfectly obvious. They're finally ready to convert the game to the "Golden Age" engine.
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