How are you playing until i19?
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Posted on: 2010-10-11 14:24 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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I guess its the way I play. No downtime, spam attacks, toggles up all the time. I use End Reds (after acc of course) when slots allow and only until set bonuses come into play. Stamina does seem to help.|
Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison
Ok, these two I have a problem with.
I'm playing a Dark Armor character for crying out loud without stamina, and I have no endurance issues. Don't put so much bias into your choices. |
It could just be my mindset, I have also been picking Fitness on every toon for years.
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Exactly as usual, with the exception of not rolling any new characters. I got plenty to do on what I have now, trust me.
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Then I'm not sure where your issues are coming from. I'm running a level 29 stalker right now. All DA toggles except Cloak of Fear, add in weave and combat jumping. I spam my attacks (gotta keep a few stacks of Divine Avalanche running). I'm not noticing any downtime either.|
Originally Posted by Seek_Trouble
I guess its the way I play. No downtime, spam attacks, toggles up all the time. I use End Reds (after acc of course) when slots allow and only until set bonuses come into play. Stamina does seem to help.
It could just be my mindset, I have also been picking Fitness on every toon for years. |
Seriously though, I don't care if you have endurance problems. Just don't assume that we all do.
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I go with #2. But the newest toons I have are MMs, so it doesn't matter too much.
What! I suppose to play differently than i normally do? 
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I'm taking Stamina for now on most characters, at least Swift on those who dont need it (eg my Elec Dom). When you're dual boxing, its very annoying to have one character who runs more slowly than the other.
I hardly ever respec characters, so I'll just use the freespecs when I19 hits. Some of my characters I have a plan for what powers they'll take in the freed up slots, some I don't.
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As for me, option #1: Play as I always have, taking Stamina as needed, and just worry about respeccing when i19 appears.
I do NOT like running out of End, and I like being able to fire powers off as fast as they recharge. I am past 20 now with some of my Praetorians, and that is how I am rolling.
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To be perfectly honest, I'm mostly doing option #5: not playing until i19 comes out. But that's just my usual every-three-months burnout/break from CoX and not anything apropos.
Like I did before. I have a bunch of vet specs, so it hasn't effected me any.
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I dont assume everyone does. I assume most do, since they are making Fitness inherent, from which I can only guess is because lots of people pick it and probably for Stamina alone. Why make something inherent that no one was using? Or is that the reason, and I am the only one?
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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison
Then I'm not sure where your issues are coming from. I'm running a level 29 stalker right now. All DA toggles except Cloak of Fear, add in weave and combat jumping. I spam my attacks (gotta keep a few stacks of Divine Avalanche running). I'm not noticing any downtime either.
Seriously though, I don't care if you have endurance problems. Just don't assume that we all do. |
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I've been dealing with that happening sporadically for the last couple months. I thought it was a Chrome thing. It's super infuriating because it marks everything as read when I log back in.
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Do you have the +end proc slotted in Dark Regen?
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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison
Ok, these two I have a problem with.
I'm playing a Dark Armor character for crying out loud without stamina, and I have no endurance issues. Don't put so much bias into your choices. |
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I'm just pointing out that your original post implied that everyone did, thanks to the wording of your choices.|
Originally Posted by Seek_Trouble
I dont assume everyone does.
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Originally Posted by warden_de_dios
Do you have the +end proc slotted in Dark Regen?
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Doesn't matter much, though, because I just don't use that power often.
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I'm mostly playing 50s, getting opposite side badges on my mains and such.
Sometimes I play my Praetorian KM/DA Scrapper. She's level 14. I want to remember what life was like before inherent fitness so a few years from now I will have stories to tell to all those darn kids all over my lawn.
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I've got two characters in the upper 40's that I'm concentrating on for the time being. Once I-19 hits I can figure out what I'm going to do with the lower ones. Not starting any new character til then probably.
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I'm concentrating on all the Praetorians I made and I'm resting my 50s for the moment. I'll concentrate on my 50s again when we get the Incarenate stuff, so it's good to devote some time to my lowbies.
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If it's any consolation, my fresh new Archery/Pain Corruptor (currently level 22 and no Fitness Pool in anticipation of inherent fitness), is having endurance issues as well.|
Originally Posted by Seek_Trouble
I guess its the way I play. No downtime, spam attacks, toggles up all the time. I use End Reds (after acc of course) when slots allow and only until set bonuses come into play. Stamina does seem to help.
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And his attacks are all well frankenslotted for Accuracy, Damage, and Endurance reduction.
Here's his slotting so far (First character of mine to experiment with frankenslotting starting at level 12):
Snap Shot
Volley Fire: ACC/DMG(24)
Volley Fire: DMG/END(15)
Tempest: DMG/END(16)
Maelstrom's Fury: DMG/END(24)
Fistful of Arrows
Air Burst: ACC/DMG(25)
Air Burst: DMG/END(16)
Air Burst: DMG/RCH(14)
Detonation: DMG/END(20)
Aimed Shot
Decimation: ACC/DMG(25)
Volley Fire: DMG/END(15)
Tempest: ACC/DMG(18)
Maelstrom's Fury: DMG/END(22)
Blazing Arrow
Decimation: ACC/DMG(25)
Volley Fire: DMG/END(15)
Tempest: DMG/END(15)
Salvo: DMG/END/RCH(16)
Maelstrom's Fury: DMG/END(24)
Aim: RCH(15)x3
Nullify Pain
Triage: HEA/END(14)
Regenerative Tissue: HEA/END(15)
Harmonized Healing: HEA/END(21)
Soothe
Triage: HEA/END(14)
Regenerative Tissue: HEA/END(15)
Enforced Morale: END(20)x1
Soothing Aura
HEA(20)
END(20)
Brawl: Kinetic Combat - Chance for KD
Air Superiority
Pulverizing Fisticuffs: ACC/DMG(25)
Bonesnap: DMG/END(16)
Fly: Winter's Gift - Slow Resistance(11)
Combat Jumping: Karma: Knockback Protection(12)
Assault: END(20)
I know Assault is a big endurance hog, but I just got that and was already having stamina problems beforehand. I thought that with my frankenslotting, lack of stamina would not be a major problem, but apparently I was wrong.
Hopefully, upgrading everything that is under 24 with 30s when I hit 27 will help here.
I've been running a new dom without Stamina, thinking I'd never level it so far (currently 37) before inherent Stamina arrived. I've done okay by pacing myself, using blues, taking advantage of temp powers and empowerment buffs, and leveraging dom for the free refills. There are certainly times when it can be painful though. Clockwork, Mu, and Freaks leave mean completely drained while the rest of the team is managing to chug along.
I'm mostly playing as usual.
Except that I respec'ed out of Fitness on a level 45 blaster, which strangely hasn't slowed it down much.
And I've used the dual build option to make Fitness free builds for a couple of brutes, which has worked very well.
I'm beginning to question if I really needed stamina with IO frankenslotting and SO enhancements.
The only real difference is that I'm using blue inspirations instead of destroying them.
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Originally Posted by Seek_Trouble
Sorry if this has been discussed already countless times but as always Im late to the show.
With the knowledge of inherent Stamina etc, I just cant seem to want to work on my characters. I always throw Stamina in whatever build Im leveling usually by 25 or so. I also like to respec once I hit 50. So what I see as my choices are: 1. Play as normal, get stamina, then respec after i19. 2. Dont bother with stamina, and be without end all the time. Then respec after i19. 3. Play lowbie toons that usually wouldnt have picked up stamina yet. Deal with all other problems lowbie toons have, no end, acc, money, etc. 4. Respec Stamina out now, add other powers, deal with recovery issues, then respec after i19, to add a slot or two in health or stamina. Yeah so I kind of feel stagnant, not sure what to do. Anyone else experiencing this? How are you playing for the next month? or so? |
1. Play as normal, get stamina, then respec after i19.
2. Dont bother with stamina, and be without end all the time. Then respec after i19.
3. Play lowbie toons that usually wouldnt have picked up stamina yet. Deal with all other problems lowbie toons have, no end, acc, money, etc.
My 3 ex-Praetorians are all dealing with it in 3 different ways.
My Broadsword/Fire scrapper used his second build to fit Stamina in at 22 (my usual thing to do). So he's waiting on i19 in order to regain the powers he had to sacrifice for Stamina at 22.
My Fire/Dark Corrupter has skipped it, but is feeling the pain so she's on hold until the inherent comes along.
My Elec/NRG Domi skipped it but doesn't need it anyway. He's the one I'm playing most and when it does come along it'll be freespecced in but remain unslotted bar the initial slot.
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Originally Posted by GuyPerfect
I'm still enjoying all the awesome from Issue 18, personally. I have no idea how people can say "Okay, it's old now. Gimme more new!"
As for Stamina, I don't take it anyway, so life isn't any different for me. It's a benefit of the freedom I've been enjoying all this time. (-: |
THIS!!!!! Resoundingly so! There's some fantastic content I'm still discovering and having a lot of fun with, but I expect I will probably respec those who REALLY need it in due course.
For now I'm just playing as I normally do and I'll stress about Stamina when I19 is out and proven and I need to
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Im just playing like I normally have... Have so many vet and free specs not to worry about about having to respec and deal with the whole inherent powers when they come out. Some toons I will respec others I will leave alone.
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