Im actually ahead of schedule on Malica's inf burning. My policy is to burn a billion for every two I remove from the market. For a while it was difficult keeping track while I was outfitting a super-Widow but now that she;s done and I have nothing to really do until I19 rolls around Im running about a billion burnt every 5 days. I suspect my sloppy record keeping was holding me back.
What this 88 craze has taught me is that my particular market methods can hold up comparable to just about any one particular method. There might be some better but its not an order of magnitude better and that makes me happy.
--Frog
Back on track again. Burnt a billy the other night, and should have another one by the end of this week. Mebbe. Some market wackiness threw all my niches.
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This my problem my salvage got wacky that I wanted to get putting me back and then I never checked....I so lazy....|
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Some market wackiness threw all my niches.
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Back on track again. Burnt a billy the other night,
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hey, do any 88's have one of those PVP global defense IOs lying around?
I find myself in need of one for my ar/dev's post-inherent stamina UBER BUILD, but if I can buy one AND have the inf feed the furnace so much the better!
I'm down for whatever they go for these days, or more since it's for a good cause. =P
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I lit up another billion last night, seems we are in a stalemate with the #6 group I was hoping now that there is a lot less farming we would gain more ground.
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We burn more Influence before 8am than you make all day.
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Actually, based on Granny's scrutiny, we're almost 1/2 way between #6 and #8.| seems we are in a stalemate with the #6 group |
As of last night when she looked, we were 30M behind #6, and 20M ahead of
#8.
I've been taking screenies every Wednesday, so I can see that we're still
gaining ground, albeit slowly (we were 50M+ behind #6, and only 5M ahead
of #8 a couple weeks ago).
I'm also hopeful that some of our folks that haven't logged in during the past
few weeks will get some time over the holidays to help stoke the fire pit - it
has been a bit chilly in some of the rooms at times...
Granny's knitting a sweater to help, but her old bones really feel the chill.
Some good ole inf tossed into the fire pit would help immensely...
Cheers,
4
I've been rich, and I've been poor. Rich is definitely better.
Light is faster than sound - that's why some people look smart until they speak.
For every seller who leaves the market dirty stinkin' rich,
there's a buyer who leaves the market dirty stinkin' IOed. - Obitus.
Mandur's helping me out with the PvP IO situation, so that's a cool 2.5b for the furnace.
Once I'm done kitting out my fire tank I'll be back stoking the fires with my weekly billion.
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Wait, you're sacrificing billy goats? What would Nethergoat say?
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I haven't marketeered much in the past 2 weeks..... I admit it, I just chickened out at participating in the new issue frenzy. I've gotten fat and lazy flipping purples and other high priced commodities, and since I figure there's downward price pressure on those, and since I just didn't see enough of the rest of the market in the runup to have a feel for what was over or underpriced to properly speculate, I'm just sitting it out.|
Originally Posted by Nethergoat
Mandur's helping me out with the PvP IO situation, so that's a cool 2.5b for the furnace.
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But then the Goat comes along and allows me to still contribute and help keep Granny warm during these cold December nights
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Originally Posted by Mandur12
I haven't marketeered much in the past 2 weeks..... I admit it, I just chickened out at participating in the new issue frenzy. I've gotten fat and lazy flipping purples and other high priced commodities, and since I figure there's downward price pressure on those, and since I just didn't see enough of the rest of the market in the runup to have a feel for what was over or underpriced to properly speculate, I'm just sitting it out.
But then the Goat comes along and allows me to still contribute and help keep Granny warm during these cold December nights |
Hey me too...
I squeeze marketing time around my playing time. I take so little time to market because I know what the usually stable prices are and dont have to watch and see too much. With the market going all wonky I have to reassess everything I move and I just dont feel like doing that. So I opt out instead...sure I sell what I get and I have a store of stuff saved up that Ive been moving but its not the same thing.
I should have saved more though....
Ill be back in the swing soonish. I made a serious pile of moola about 12 seconds after I19 went live but havent been back since.
--Frog
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Awwwww... Now this is why the 88's are my favorite SG - you're all so kind |
But then the Goat comes along and allows me to still contribute and help keep Granny warm during these cold December nights |
and considerate towards an old lady...
btw, in reference to my prior post, just thought I'd cherry pick a few numbers
from the screenies for a little perspective (I started taking them just after we
got into the top 20 -- back in late October).
Enjoy!
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SG Reference Oct 22 Today Net Change -------------------------------------------------------------- Current #1 SG 373,822,070 468,228,822 94.4 M Drama Llama SG 146,223,227 165,671,619 19.4 M Us 88's 97,169,002 256,832,372 159.6 M --------------------------------------------------------------
into BTU's, but surely that's got to be at least a little heartwarming...
Of course, winter is fast approaching Paragon City, so there's more to do
to see us through to Spring...
Cheers,
4
I've been rich, and I've been poor. Rich is definitely better.
Light is faster than sound - that's why some people look smart until they speak.
For every seller who leaves the market dirty stinkin' rich,
there's a buyer who leaves the market dirty stinkin' IOed. - Obitus.
I know I saw somewhere average inf earning rates from farmers and average gameplay. I'm sure things fluctuate based on the farmsploit-of-the-week, but a rough estimate could work.
Anyone has those numbers at hand? I'd be fun to see how many hours of farming have been burned.
So I am also looking to purchase some pvp io's and would like to buy off an 88'er. I am looking for two Gladiator Armor 3% def procs and one Shield Wall 3% res. If anyone has some I will also pay off market value. You can contact me in game @liquid sword or here to arrange a time. I only log on in the evenings for a short period of time.
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The numbers I think you are talking about were inf/hour assuming all items vendored. A number of people participated and the "top end" for pure inf/hour assuming no market action was about 25mil/hour.|
Originally Posted by Tormentoso
I know I saw somewhere average inf earning rates from farmers and average gameplay. I'm sure things fluctuate based on the farmsploit-of-the-week, but a rough estimate could work.
Anyone has those numbers at hand? I'd be fun to see how many hours of farming have been burned. |
Factoring in market interaction skews that number wildly depending on what you farm and how you deal with the rewards. If you AE farm for example, you will never get a purple. However, most farmers can effectively "ticket cap" a map in about 5-6 minutes. This caps them at 9,000 tickets (so they don't run over) in about 40 minutes total.
That person can then spend those tickets on gold rolls and get less rolls - or try silver and get a few more rolls with typically more "junk" in them, or they can spend the next 30-40 minutes doing bronze rolls most of which end up getting deleted or vendored.
On the outliers, we have those who spend their tickets on level 50 dmg recipes and just sell them to the vendor. I forget their ticket price, but it seemed like a fair trade off for those who didn't want to monkey with the market.
As for normal map farmers... well, here is a whole new mess to try and figure out. A farmer will always end up deleting salvage and / or recipes that they do not value. Also, as with the rest of this game, luck is a huge determiner of what your actual inf/hour can be on regular mission maps. Myself for example have gotten 3 purple drops in 6 months. 2 were garbage. The 3rd was from an ITF where we decided to hang out and kill stuff after mission completion just for funsies. I calculate that I ran my regular farms about 100 times or so. Tedious and boring - and never received anything of significant value.
If you want an "average" number of what a regular farmer can make per hour, I would guestimate it in the range of about 40-50 mil per hour. This assumes some market interaction via selling of drops. We'll forgo the money earned on the market for now and focus on inf from defeats (purely added money).
Now figure your average farmer "farms" about 7 hours a week, and that farmer adds roughly 175 mil to the economy through defeats alone.
100,000 players.
If 1% are "farmers" then we have about 1,000 active farmers.
Those farmers, assuming an average, are adding 175,000,000,000 (175 billion) to the economy every week just through defeats.
Now if you assume that the other 99% of the people are horribly bad at killing things, and play low level alts and stand around most of the time we can estimate their earning potential at say... 1% of a farmer.
So the "average Joe" is adding 1,750,000 all by their lonesome through defeats.
Factor that across the remaining 99,000 players and we find that the "average Joe" is adding about 173 billion in inf to the economy every week just through defeats.
So in total, we can estimate that about 348 billion inf is added to the economy each and every week just from people doing what they like to do.
- Cheers
Half a million an hour seems like a lot for the "Average joe". I guess if 1/3 of them are playing level 50's it's about right.
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Turns out I had 3 billion gleemail inf 'disappeared' by the patch.
GM Kenie has kicked me up the chain of command- hopefully they find it!
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Did you tell them that while, yes, technically more efficient--it was an inappropriate way of destroying inf? That we prefer to do it as fabulously flamboyant as possible?
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Turns out I had 3 billion gleemail inf 'disappeared' by the patch.
GM Kenie has kicked me up the chain of command- hopefully they find it! |
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Has anyone checked to see if the #6 group knows we're chasing them, and if they're burning inf to escape?
(I put a billion in yesterday.)
ED: let me check with them.
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For the sake of argument, even if we cut my guestimates by 2/3rds, on average, there is about 100 billion inf added to the economy every week just through defeats.|
Originally Posted by Fulmens
Half a million an hour seems like a lot for the "Average joe". I guess if 1/3 of them are playing level 50's it's about right.
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We've burned what, 100 billion? A bit more? So our effort over the past (nearly) 3 months has removed what is generated by the populace at large in a single week.
We have destroyed roughly 7-8% of what was generated (assuming a 2/3rds reduction of my estimates).
At this rate, we're slightly behind Mr. WW in removing inf. Although we are still an additional source.
I still support the 88s and hope that they reach their mark of #1
My market niches were destroyed. The crafted enhancements are now selling for LESS than the recipes. If I could disenchant, we'd be back in business.
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GM Grackle assures me I'll have my 3 billion back soon- hooray!
Mandur will be able to keep Granny toasty and my ar/dev will be that much closer to the ranged cap.
Startling Alt Discoveries: logged in a guy to do a day badge relocate and noticed he had a PvP recipe in his inventory, one of the melee ones. Being the sharp operator I am, I sprinted for the market, bought some salvage, crafted it and promptly sold it for 150m. Thank you, drop bug!
I don't remember what I paid for it, but it had to be a lowball bid because he can't slot it so it was pure speculation.
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Melee PvP recipes are going for 150 million? That seems ridiculously cheap. I think the lowest purple ranged damage recipe I saw this weekend was 350 million.
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Startling Alt Discoveries: logged in a guy to do a day badge relocate and noticed he had a PvP recipe in his inventory, one of the melee ones. Being the sharp operator I am, I sprinted for the market, bought some salvage, crafted it and promptly sold it for 150m. Thank you, drop bug!
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Having Vengeance and Fallout slotted for recharge means never having to say you're sorry.
I'm back. Thanksgiving happened and I've been scared to check the game, because I offered "a billion or so" to match base builders on that thread. . .
After the base builders, you guys are next in the rotation.
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