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Originally Posted by Fulmens
I did my year and a half. It's your turn.
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Originally Posted by Misaligned
Blah blah blah perception is irrelevant. People will always believe that someone is screwing them until they get it for free. At which point they will believe that someone is screwing them because they should have had it for free... earlier.
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Originally Posted by Misaligned
No one gives a rat's *** about spending 150 mil instead of 149,500,000 on that LotG proc - but sure as hell flip out if they gotta pay 100k for common salvage.
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Originally Posted by DevilYouKnow
But apparently perception is blah, blah, blah so what people "know" doesn't matter anyway.
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Originally Posted by DevilYouKnow
I disagree. What he demonstrated is that it is possible for an individual to manipulate market prices simply because he felt like doing so.
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| Further, it lends credence to the perception that the market is at the mercy of the marketeers. How can you convince someone it is not when something like this occurs? |
| If you are the person who needed a nevermelting ice in the hour you were playing it doesn't matter how long it lasted. |
| Players who aren't interested in the market (and don't read these forums) will assume, rightly, that some marketeer used his money to drive up the prices of an insignifcant piece of salavage for some reason. (profit most likely they will assume) |
| Indeed, the ones paying millions for these things were probably other marketeers, who else would have the cash to waste on something like that? |
It makes it seems like marketeers spend all thier time playing with themselves. 
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Originally Posted by DevilYouKnow
If you are the person who needed a nevermelting ice in the hour you were playing it doesn't matter how long it lasted.
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| If you are the person who needed a nevermelting ice in the hour you were playing |
| If you are the person who needed a nevermelting ice |
| If you are the person who needed a nevermelting ice |
Seriously, on average it takes rolling 48 tickets to get whatever common salvage you want. That means you have a half chance of getting it in LESS tickets than that.
A person might want to think ahead and get 100 tickets for rainy days.
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Originally Posted by Misaligned
At what point do you need anything from a game. You want. Want =/= need. I want world peace and a Snicker's Bar. Provide it now at a reasonable cost. That reasonable cost will be an amount to be determined after I get what I want. It will most likely be less than what the actual cost was, but that's irrelevant. I want it - go get it for me... now!
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Originally Posted by Coyote_Seven
Now I know what side you took during the whole ED and GDN debacles!
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Originally Posted by Rodion
No hate, just an observation:
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Originally Posted by Misaligned
I wasn't playing at that time. The truth is universal though. People have seriously confused want with need. Entitlement is what the problem is, not marketeers or casual players or Bob, the guy who only logs in for 2 minutes a year.
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I think we can call this case closed. What have we learned?
Oh yeah? Well... my icon is better than yours!
Doesn't it strike you as ironic that you claim people are suffering from entitlement issues when you feel perfectly entitled to jerk the market around for fun?
The problem is that some of your fun comes at the expense of others.
Just like the guy selling flashlights for 50 bucks in blackout, people may pay what you ask but you aren't going to convince them that you did them a kindness.
But thanks for explaining the motivation for this kind of thing. Next time demonic blood sample hits 3 million I will understand that it's all in fun and just because someone can do it.
(but just so you know that is the classic power poilitics defense. "becasue we can")
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Originally Posted by DevilYouKnow
Doesn't it strike you as ironic that you claim people are suffering from entitlement issues when you feel perfectly entitled to jerk the market around for fun?
The problem is that some of your fun comes at the expense of others. Just like the guy selling flashlights for 50 bucks in blackout, people may pay what you ask but you aren't going to convince them that you did them a kindness. But thanks for explaining the motivation for this kind of thing. Next time demonic blood sample hits 3 million I will understand that it's all in fun and just because someone can do it. (but just so you know that is the classic power poilitics defense. "becasue we can") |
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Originally Posted by DevilYouKnow
Doesn't it strike you as ironic that you claim people are suffering from entitlement issues when you feel perfectly entitled to jerk the market around for fun?
The problem is that some of your fun comes at the expense of others. |
| Just like the guy selling flashlights for 50 bucks in blackout, people may pay what you ask but you aren't going to convince them that you did them a kindness. |
You know what? You guys are right. Nobody died.
Sure some people probably got frustrated yet again with the market being so screwy but a little frustration is probably good for 'em. Help them deal with it in real life.
If a few more players throw up their hands and give up on the market, no big deal. More for all of us.
I am sure some noble purpose was fufilled by doing this, I guess I am just too n00b to get why this was a good idea.
So again- well done!
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Originally Posted by DevilYouKnow
Sure some people probably got frustrated yet again with the market being so screwy but a little frustration is probably good for 'em. Help them deal with it in real life.
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| If a few more players throw up their hands and give up on the market, no big deal. |
| I am sure some noble purpose was fufilled by doing this... |
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Originally Posted by Nethergoat
naw, it was just me having some fun, the way people do when they play a game.
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I'm wondering what's up with the recent influx of new players posting all kinds of nonsense on the boards.
So far we have had at least the following three... I haven't really kept up with all of them, only the most funny ones deserve to be mentioned.
1) Multiple new guys complaining about the market, have the system explained to them, and still continue complaining.
2) At least one conspiracy theory about the game's population.
3) Someone claiming that they need billions of inf in order to use their slots.
OK, so here's the big question:
Goat spent a few hours of his time and millions of his Inf to give people more money than they asked for for items that they were selling. If he had been crafting hundreds of [Invention: Endurance Reduction (Recipe).50] to put into storage and take out as his characters reached level 47, would he be more or less evil than he is for deleting the items he chose to delete?
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Originally Posted by DevilYouKnow
For my friends, I keep a lot of salvage in my base and when they whine I send it to them.
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Originally Posted by DevilYouKnow
Doesn't it strike you as ironic that you claim people are suffering from entitlement issues when you feel perfectly entitled to jerk the market around for fun?
The problem is that some of your fun comes at the expense of others. Just like the guy selling flashlights for 50 bucks in blackout, people may pay what you ask but you aren't going to convince them that you did them a kindness. But thanks for explaining the motivation for this kind of thing. Next time demonic blood sample hits 3 million I will understand that it's all in fun and just because someone can do it. (but just so you know that is the classic power poilitics defense. "becasue we can") |
So all this time I've been replacing my Nevermelting Ice every day in order to avoid health issues, I've been living in a lie?!
Went to sell some NMIs last night and they were all dirt cheap (<500inf).