Purple Drop Rate


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I had particularly bad luck. I think I had two drop in as many years (and I think the two dropped earlier in that period). Then boom! I had three drop in as many weeks. I seem to get them now from time to time.

I do play a fair amount of alts, but that dry spell was making me wonder if the devs hated me for a bit, even though I knew it was randomly possible.


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I was finishing Lavantaria's arc, on my defender, in RWZ last night solo, +0 3 minions. Last mission got an Absolute Amazement as a drop.


 

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On a Barracuda last night a teammate got an Unbreakable Constraint triple and I landed a Soulbound Allegiance Damage/End I believe.

Sometimes I farm and farm and get nothing; just maximize your odds by playing high end content or market through sales for a return on your income.


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helping someone on a low setting as well.
What do you mean "on a low setting"?


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Originally Posted by Sailboat View Post
What do you mean "on a low setting"?
Since the player was using an alt, and teaming against high-level Rikti--I think it's a reference to getting purple drops on a low-level character.


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I received 5 in two missions a few months ago. I was happy. There had been a six month dry period before that but that is how random works.


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Originally Posted by Dark Victory View Post
Whats going on with my purple drop rate? I havn"t had a purple drop in like 4 issues. Now when I do get a drop its a temp power. I do TFs, Raids, Contact mishs arcs, radio mishs, Hunting. I'm I missing somthing ?
Nothing is going on, you're just having bad luck. Purple drops are rare enough that you can get some pretty long streaks without them. For example, I farm quite a bit, and I get a purple something like every 6-7 runs on average, but there's been times in the past where I've gone almost 30 runs without a single drop. There have also been other times where I've gotten 5 drops in 4 runs. The RNG is much streakier than a lot of people realize.


 

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Random is random, all right.

When I was levelling my archery blaster, I got 10 purples in 32 calendar days -- couldn't have been 31 days for "10 in a month," no -- just playing the game and doing mostly radio and arc missions, back in the days of "Unyielding" and the like for mission difficulty. A few teammates got a few purples as well playing with that toon, and we joked about the dark blue costume and how the toon was apparently a "purple recipe magnet. Maybe you should make the COSTUME purple or something!"

Then I've got some other toons which I play semi-regularly that I'm not sure have ever gotten one. My main two or three toons get a purple -- I'm guesstimating now -- maybe once a month on average, doing the same combination of radio and arc missions. Rare enough to go "hey, wow!" but nowhere close to the farmers who claim to average one per map.


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I must farm way more than most or something. Ive never gone months without purples. I farm a couple hours per day and up to 10 off and on during the weekends. I dont get them every run, but at least 1 every few runs. Just dumb luck i guess. Running solo at 0x8 unless PL'ing my 2nd account.


 

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Originally Posted by eryq2 View Post
I must farm way more than most or something. Ive never gone months without purples. I farm a couple hours per day and up to 10 off and on during the weekends. I dont get them every run, but at least 1 every few runs. Just dumb luck i guess. Running solo at 0x8 unless PL'ing my 2nd account.
I have farmed up to 6 hours per week for months without getting a purple drop. Now, I am not the best farmer, but I was running either Borea rikti warzone missions at +0x8 or the code merlin arc set to +1x8. I probably did a good 4 or 500 missions with no purples. Random is random. That's just how it goes.

Granted, way back when the probability and statistics office at USCB used me in a study on luck (I'm not joking either, somewhere there is documentation of me getting coin toss results of 300-something wins, vs 600-something losses on two separate identical trials as part of a study on luck).

I've been on an 8 man ITF where one guy got two pieces of armageddon. Random is random.


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Originally Posted by GavinRuneblade View Post
I have farmed up to 6 hours per week for months without getting a purple drop. Now, I am not the best farmer, but I was running either Borea rikti warzone missions at +0x8 or the code merlin arc set to +1x8. I probably did a good 4 or 500 missions with no purples. Random is random.
Random is definitely random, but this is freakishly unlucky. I don't really know those missions, but I'm guessing they have at least 100 enemies to defeat in each one. That means you probably went 40,000 to 50,000 defeats with no drops, and if they're big missions it could be well over 100,000. For something that drops at least every 5000 (estimates sometimes go as low as 1500) defeats, that's a freakishly long dry spell.


 

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I must farm way more than most or something. Ive never gone months without purples. I farm a couple hours per day and up to 10 off and on during the weekends.
That's a lot of farming. It's certainly more than I do. I might do an hour or two a week anymore, I just get bored with it (plus I make more money in much less time playing the markets)


 

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I got 2 with a level 50 archery blaster running in Peregrine when purples first came out... have not gotten a single purple SINCE. It's been what, almost 2 years? I play my two mains (50's) 90% of the time I am on, spend about 10 hours a week farming papers or running ITF's. I support the conspiracy theory...

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Originally Posted by Pyber View Post
This pretty much. Its all in the luck of the draw. Some days the roll chart just loves you, while others you may begin to wonder if the game just doesn't like you.
I've never gotten a purple drop, I play my 50 everytime I play, for at least a mission. I've stopped expecting/hoping for/ thinking about them.


 

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Originally Posted by firespray View Post
Random is definitely random, but this is freakishly unlucky. I don't really know those missions, but I'm guessing they have at least 100 enemies to defeat in each one. That means you probably went 40,000 to 50,000 defeats with no drops, and if they're big missions it could be well over 100,000. For something that drops at least every 5000 (estimates sometimes go as low as 1500) defeats, that's a freakishly long dry spell.
The reason I was selected for the PSTAT study was how bad my luck is. =) One of the grad students saw me playing warhammer 40k with my brother (old school epic rules using missions) On a this particular game I has 18 tanks surrounding his messenger, each tank has 2 shots, they hit on a 4, 5 or 6 (standard 6-sided dice), and miss on a 1, 2, or 3. On any given hit, they would kill him on a 2, 3, 4, 5, or 6. I had 36 shots, each with a straightup 50% chance to hit, then any hit was an 83% chance to kill. If I killed that one unit, I would win.

I didn't even hit him. 36 straight failures on 50-50 odds.

My D&D group had to implement using fixed stat points for character generation. Using the roll "4 dice use the highest 3", I reliably had characters who were worthless. Using "roll 5 dice keep all 5" I reliably had 3 out of 6 stats lower than 11. they finally just gave me fixed stats and said use them.

But it was fun to have my professors document it officially =) I should have kept a copy.

I don't really do any better with drops here. Thank god the market isn't random. =)


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Originally Posted by firespray View Post
That's a lot of farming. It's certainly more than I do. I might do an hour or two a week anymore, I just get bored with it (plus I make more money in much less time playing the markets)
Then you can easily afford to just buy them. I save the inf and/or make it by killing things. lol. I get bored in WW, but to each their own.


 

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I am pleased to announce that I had my 2nd purple drop EVER today while running a tip mission with some friends against Carnies in PI.

After playing for over 14month on CoH this is only my 2nd every purple drop, unfortunately it was a relatively cheap purple, (fortunata sleep set iirc rech/sleep/end maybe?) only on sale for about 70mil but idc

The fact that i finally had another purple drop just made my day

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heh cheers for you!


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Here is a theory supported by multiple people in my SG. It's called the Purple Window Theory (TM). It's about as random and insane as the regular drop thought, however, it supports the streakiness that the RNG likes to do sometimes. We even tested it tonight and it worked! Here's what it is:

The random generator picks a time of day, then a random period of time from 3 minutes to 10 minutes. During that time, a purple may drop on, we have believed to be, a 1 in 750 to 1 in 1500 chance. When you are not in the RNG's window of opportunity, then you will not get a purple, no matter how many mobs you kill. Period. The support of this theory is as follows:
Over the course of my 5 months in this game, I have seen the following happen a total of 26 times:
Random person in Global Channel: "Hey guys, just got a purple!"
Within 3-10 minutes later, people in coalition, the team I'm on, and other global channels say the same thing. However, at any other time in that day, not a single person in all 7 of my global channels and none of the hundreds of people in my coalition got a single purple drop.
Or, as it has happened this week... At exactly 12:45:06 EST Tuesday, my friend got an Armageddon drop. That same friend got a Hecatomb at 12:46:26 EST Wednesday, and then we tested it tonight, and at exactly 12:43:55 EST Thursday, another Armageddon dropped, and 2 people on the same team got purples within 4 minutes of that one dropping. Then after 12:48, not another purple dropped the next hour they were on.

It may or may not be as random as people think. I also believe that there are 2 Purple Windows, one for your not-so-popular ones, like your Sleep/Confuse/Immobilize sets, then the one with the more popular ones, AKA the damage purples. It's a theory worth testing. I, personally, have only had 1 purple drop on me in the 5 months I've been playing (about a week ago), but I also play a lot of lowbies. My time spent on my 50s is miniscule compared to my time levelling up toons.

Either way, random is random, lucky is lucky, streaks are streaks. You play the game, you have fun, and you squeal like a giddy little schoolgirl when you see Recipe Found!


 

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Originally Posted by runt9 View Post
Here is a theory supported by multiple people in my SG. It's called the Purple Window Theory (TM). It's about as random and insane as the regular drop thought, however, it supports the streakiness that the RNG likes to do sometimes. We even tested it tonight and it worked! Here's what it is:

The random generator picks a time of day, then a random period of time from 3 minutes to 10 minutes. During that time, a purple may drop on, we have believed to be, a 1 in 750 to 1 in 1500 chance. When you are not in the RNG's window of opportunity, then you will not get a purple, no matter how many mobs you kill. Period. The support of this theory is as follows:
Over the course of my 5 months in this game, I have seen the following happen a total of 26 times:
Random person in Global Channel: "Hey guys, just got a purple!"
Within 3-10 minutes later, people in coalition, the team I'm on, and other global channels say the same thing. However, at any other time in that day, not a single person in all 7 of my global channels and none of the hundreds of people in my coalition got a single purple drop.
Or, as it has happened this week... At exactly 12:45:06 EST Tuesday, my friend got an Armageddon drop. That same friend got a Hecatomb at 12:46:26 EST Wednesday, and then we tested it tonight, and at exactly 12:43:55 EST Thursday, another Armageddon dropped, and 2 people on the same team got purples within 4 minutes of that one dropping. Then after 12:48, not another purple dropped the next hour they were on.

It may or may not be as random as people think. I also believe that there are 2 Purple Windows, one for your not-so-popular ones, like your Sleep/Confuse/Immobilize sets, then the one with the more popular ones, AKA the damage purples. It's a theory worth testing. I, personally, have only had 1 purple drop on me in the 5 months I've been playing (about a week ago), but I also play a lot of lowbies. My time spent on my 50s is miniscule compared to my time levelling up toons.

Either way, random is random, lucky is lucky, streaks are streaks. You play the game, you have fun, and you squeal like a giddy little schoolgirl when you see Recipe Found!
I was kind of thinking the same thing. Certain times of the day for drops. I know my wife was farming for a week. Every morning between 7-8 am. I take a break at 8am at my job. Everyday that week she txtd me before i went to break saying that she had gotten a purple. EVERY day that week. She made over a billion dollars in 4 days. (before they started selling for 3-600mil) lol.

I havent been able to test it lately because she finished school and started working... I guess real INF is more important. lol...


 

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Or, maybe that's the natural human tendency to see patterns where none exist, and random numbers are random?

Nah.... Couldn't be.


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I wish they would lower the drop rate of temp recipes.

I have honestly seen 10 drop from one radio which to me at least seems way to high.



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Originally Posted by Janel View Post
I wish they would lower the drop rate of temp recipes.

I have honestly seen 10 drop from one radio which to me at least seems way to high.
Can't disagree with that. I vendor all of mine now--I can't even recoup the posting fee anymore. They're like (originally) the anti-costume recipe.


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I've gotten around 20 purple drops total since they were first introduced to the game.
I've bought many others, but getting 20 of my own is probably not too bad all things considered.


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Originally Posted by Roderick View Post
Or, maybe that's the natural human tendency to see patterns where none exist, and random numbers are random?

Nah.... Couldn't be.
Could be. Humans like to find patterns for something that is supposedly random. The thing is, no one can know for sure. The devs have not outright said one thing or the other, the actual drop rate, or anything. The first thing I said is that it was a theory and was insane. It's about as likely as turning around to see a fresh-out-of-the-oven cherry pie sitting underneath your bed. But human nature is human, and if I can make a pattern, I usually do. I've seen the pattern work more times than not, but I'm also a very analytical and insane person, so spotting a pattern is easier for me because I find them where they don't exist.