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But when the X-Men originally fought Dracula, Wolverine's healing factor was able to fight off the vampirism plague.

Soooo....
Well don't they have to actually drain and kill you to turn you into a vampire in the Marvel universe?


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Well don't they have to actually drain and kill you to turn you into a vampire in the Marvel universe?
The Marvel Zombies zombie plague was an extra dimensional universe level badness that specifically adapted itself to infect superhuman beings.

Dracula is just a dude from an old irish novel.



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Ross keeps all of his anger in his 'stashe, thus the 'stashe is where all of the mass of Red Hulk comes from and why you only see it in Ross form.

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Ross keeps all of his anger in his 'stashe, thus the 'stashe is where all of the mass of Red Hulk comes from and why you only see it in Ross form.

So you're saying that he stashes his stuff in his 'stache? Awesome.


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Thor is off-schedule and kind of hard to gauge at the moment.
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I've been behind on my pull list for a while, so I have a borked sense of what's come out when the past few months, but I'm pretty sure Thor's been back on track post JMS/Coipel. I'm a big fan of what JMS did on Thor.

In my humble opinion, Kieron Gillen was a great choice to follow JMS. Not a big fan of Billy Tan, but Asgardians seem to suit his style better than the tights crowd. There's a neat fill-in arc now with gorgeous art by Doug Braithwaite, before the book goes back to the Kirby era "Asgardians are aliens with sci-fi" schtick. Pasqual Ferry will be on art, don't know the writer offhand. I'll be dropping the book at that point, partly because I preferred the mythological spin on Asgard, partly for budgetary reasons.


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The X-Men books since Hope Summers showed up have been a lot of fun... But it looks like they're getting away from that with Vampire'ing. X-Factor seems excluded from that, so it will still be fun.
I'm the opposite.

I find X-Factor boring and a bit pretentious. Plus I'm not big on how Peter David's using Rahne in X-Factor, and she's one of my favorite characters so..... yeah.....

Conversely, I'm loving the crazy vampire stuff. But then, I buy just about anything with Ambush Bug, Squirrel Girl, Beta Ray Bill, or Howard the Duck in it, so I'm a big fan of that kinda thing.


 

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Still, if enough internet people call this idea the worst they've ever heard, they'll spirit the notion away in another few issues.
oh yes, because that's worked so well thus far for OMD/BND/OMiT. the entirety of the internet could actually return every issue of the Red Hulk/World War Hulks saga, torn and wrapped around copies of David's Planet Hulk to show Quesada what GOOD Hulk stories are like and still Quesada will not admit that a story is a bad idea, unless of course Loeb bad mouths him and calls Joey Q a pansy. at which point, the gloves are off and Joey Q will make his mission in life to retcon and destroy everything developed by Loeb since he first came to Marvel. Industry folks like to call this "the Grant Morrison treatment".


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Give it to me straight: Does Marvel suck?
As a whole, no. But certain individual projects do reach an insane level of sucktitudinal horricrap that mystifies even fanboys. see the aforementioned spidey retcons, the Red Hulk storyline, and the recent Messiah whatever X-Trilogy.


 

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see the aforementioned spidey retcons
You know what the worst part was? One More Day could have been made more far more tolerable (Other then Joe Q not being allowed to touch it, that is) if it had been Mary Jane who had been shot, and not Aunt May. At least then Peter's decision to sacrafice his marriage to save her life would have made more sense.


 

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Don't forget the Red Hulk will be joining the Avengers now. >.<



Considering his output since then, maybe he -should- have taken a longer break. Ultimatum? Wolverine and Sabretooth descended from centuries old warring tribes of wolf mutants? Red Hulk? Those are some of the most reviled storylines of the past 5-10 years.

And it's even worse when you consider how great Planet Hulk was, and World War Hulk was good at it's core, if the execution left a bit to be desired. But then they kick all that development out the window for the Red Hulk crap.
Definitely. Considering how the perception is that his son's death hit him extremely hard, it would've been better for him to take a break, or at the least, write out his emotions in some other form, becuase he didn't do his reputation any good here, at least IMO.

I'd point out that Planet Hulk was Greg Pak's run (and he brought something interesting and original to the story, and I wish he'd stayed on Sakaar, to be honest...the Hulk wasn't top of the totem pole and so you had an interest in seeing him deal), but I agree with you post-World War Hulk.

Maybe they'll realise how bad this was and try and get back to some basics.


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ok so someone explain this to me.

however many years ago shortly after Red Hulk came out, just after World War Hulk, and no one knew who Rulk was. I thought I saw a comic that clearly showed Rulk being Rick Jones.

am I crazy? was that a bait and switch? I know I saw it.


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Greg Pak, who I think is back on the Hulk nonsense, is mostly enjoyable with Amadeus Cho's happenings and writing Hercules when he's around.
In my opinion, Pak is the best writer Marvel has, and I follow whatever title he's working on. Last I noticed he was back on the Hulk again. I hope he can salvage a good story out of the mess they made of it.

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Not The Prince of Power? Cho (as written by Pak) is great, although the title is better when Herc is around.


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I've been behind on my pull list for a while, so I have a borked sense of what's come out when the past few months, but I'm pretty sure Thor's been back on track post JMS/Coipel. I'm a big fan of what JMS did on Thor.

In my humble opinion, Kieron Gillen was a great choice to follow JMS. Not a big fan of Billy Tan, but Asgardians seem to suit his style better than the tights crowd. There's a neat fill-in arc now with gorgeous art by Doug Braithwaite, before the book goes back to the Kirby era "Asgardians are aliens with sci-fi" schtick. Pasqual Ferry will be on art, don't know the writer offhand. I'll be dropping the book at that point, partly because I preferred the mythological spin on Asgard, partly for budgetary reasons.
Is it now? I have read a couple of the Gillen books, but they just seemed so sporadic. Maybe I've just missed an issue here or there.

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I'm the opposite.

I find X-Factor boring and a bit pretentious. Plus I'm not big on how Peter David's using Rahne in X-Factor, and she's one of my favorite characters so..... yeah.....

Conversely, I'm loving the crazy vampire stuff. But then, I buy just about anything with Ambush Bug, Squirrel Girl, Beta Ray Bill, or Howard the Duck in it, so I'm a big fan of that kinda thing.
PRETENTIOUS!?

... I can see it. I think you're supposed to think that about some of the characters, which it makes it enjoyable when things go wrong for them.

I've only read the set-up with the vampire story (Jubilation is infected), so I really haven't seen enough to judge it. Just, after Necrosha, I'm wary of this path.

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oh yes, because that's worked so well thus far for OMD/BND/OMiT. the entirety of the internet could actually return every issue of the Red Hulk/World War Hulks saga, torn and wrapped around copies of David's Planet Hulk to show Quesada what GOOD Hulk stories are like and still Quesada will not admit that a story is a bad idea, unless of course Loeb bad mouths him and calls Joey Q a pansy. at which point, the gloves are off and Joey Q will make his mission in life to retcon and destroy everything developed by Loeb since he first came to Marvel. Industry folks like to call this "the Grant Morrison treatment".
One More Day and One Moment in Time defy logic because Joey Q has an obviously personal stake in the matter. Logic dare not penetrate those walls.

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As a whole, no. But certain individual projects do reach an insane level of sucktitudinal horricrap that mystifies even fanboys. see the aforementioned spidey retcons, the Red Hulk storyline, and the recent Messiah whatever X-Trilogy.
I really liked the Messiah stuff... Does it have that reputation? I haven't heard that opinion on it.

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In my opinion, Pak is the best writer Marvel has, and I follow whatever title he's working on. Last I noticed he was back on the Hulk again. I hope he can salvage a good story out of the mess they made of it.

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Not The Prince of Power? Cho (as written by Pak) is great, although the title is better when Herc is around.
I'm not the biggest Hulk fan to begin with, though I followed Incredible Hulk leading up to the Hercules hostile takeover of the title, and found myself enjoying Hercules more than I ever did the Hulkster.

Prince of Power is just a 4-issue mini-series, right? If it becomes a monthly I would definitely add it.


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I really liked the Messiah stuff... Does it have that reputation? I haven't heard that opinion on it.
I liked it.

The opinions I've heard the most were good for Messiah Complex, fair for Messiah War, and mostly great for Second Coming.


 

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ok so someone explain this to me.

however many years ago shortly after Red Hulk came out, just after World War Hulk, and no one knew who Rulk was. I thought I saw a comic that clearly showed Rulk being Rick Jones.

am I crazy? was that a bait and switch? I know I saw it.
The very first issue heavily implied that Rick Jones was the Red Hulk, but it turned out he was the Blue Abomination (A-Bomb) instead. I wish people wouldn't keep forcing me to remember that...

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I liked it.

The opinions I've heard the most were good for Messiah Complex, fair for Messiah War, and mostly great for Second Coming.
Messiah Complex was good, but didn't end quite as strongly as I would have liked. Messiah War was outright terrible and entirely pointless. Second Coming was really good outside a couple of needless and horribly obvious character deaths. The only real problem I have with the series is their tendency to go nowhere and focus on too many stories instead of telling one really good one.

X-Factor annoys me in its position of "consistently almost great". There's great, long running plot threads always going that generally amount to fantastic character moments, but then it will get sidetracked for 3 months or so and feel entirely mediocre. I do love the book; I just wish it jumped to its heights more often.


 

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The X-Men books since Hope Summers showed up have been a lot of fun... But it looks like they're getting away from that with Vampire'ing.



Had a thought..if they bring back Dazzler..let her get turned into a vampire..wouldnt she be the bestest sparkly vampire every?


 

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The X-Men books since Hope Summers showed up have been a lot of fun... But it looks like they're getting away from that with Vampire'ing.



Had a thought..if they bring back Dazzler..let her get turned into a vampire..wouldnt she be the bestest sparkly vampire every?

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You know what the worst part was? One More Day could have been made more far more tolerable (Other then Joe Q not being allowed to touch it, that is) if it had been Mary Jane who had been shot, and not Aunt May. At least then Peter's decision to sacrafice his marriage to save her life would have made more sense.
Instead we get Peter guilt-tripping MJ into making a deal with "a devil" to sacrifice their marriage and future years. Mind you, comic book time aside, Peter and MJ could have up to another 60 years together.

And this was to save the life of someone who, for all intents and purposes, has already lived a full life, and will more than likely be dying of NATURAL causes in what, 2, maybe 10 years tops?


Tales of Judgment. Also here, instead of that other place.

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General 'Thunderbolt' Ross.


So the man threw every good thing about himself to become a homicidal monster that causes more problems than solves.

Yeah...

Wait, then who the heck was he talking to like two issues before?!?


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Wait, then who the heck was he talking to like two issues before?!?
A Life Model Decoy, or LMD, more'n likely. The all-purpose US versions of the Doombots that get the blame for some of Dr. Doom's actions.


Tales of Judgment. Also here, instead of that other place.

good luck D.B.B.

 

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A Life Model Decoy, or LMD, more'n likely. The all-purpose US versions of the Doombots that get the blame for some of Dr. Doom's actions.
Exactly so, which puts a new spin on panel 2.


 

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A Life Model Decoy, or LMD, more'n likely. The all-purpose US versions of the Doombots that get the blame for some of Dr. Doom's actions.
That, or it's a Skrull secretly PRETENDING to be Ross turning into the Red Hulk. Or a dream sequence. Or some other idiotic nonsense.


 

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That, or it's a Skrull secretly PRETENDING to be Ross turning into the Red Hulk. Or a dream sequence. Or some other idiotic nonsense.
My head is gonna explode if it turns out that we got Ross Rolled. I mean. I always said Red Hulk was really Jeph Loeb.