The Red Hulk is...


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General 'Thunderbolt' Ross.


So the man threw every good thing about himself to become a homicidal monster that causes more problems than solves.

Yeah...


 

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Originally Posted by BlackArachnia View Post
General 'Thunderbolt' Ross.


So the man threw every good thing about himself to become a homicidal monster that causes more problems than solves.

Yeah...
I figured. I just thought of the stupidist idea that Joe Q thought would be cool as a kid and the Rulk came to mind and it had to be 'Thunderbolt' Ross because the character is too complex for Joe Q to understand.


 

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Um, they revealed that weeks ago...



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Um, they revealed that weeks ago...



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I must have missed it then NP. Sorry about that. I was doing random searches, (the White Rabbit villain was hilarious) and that was one of my main searches. They seem to imply who Red She-Hulk is as well.


 

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It's Betty Ross


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Originally Posted by Reiraku View Post
It's Betty Ross
The article I was reading did not confirm that, and I could not find a verification yet, so I was not going to say that.


 

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Of course!

It's really the only way this ****storm of pure idiocy could have gone. If they'd picked someone that made sense, it would have gone against everything Rulk stood for. I, for one, would have been disappointed if they hadn't picked someone mind-numbingly stupid for the reveal.


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The sad thing is, there was absolutely no good reason Rulk couldn't have been written to be Leonard Samson.

Except they wanted to pull the "we're gonna fool the readers by implying it was Sampson and the have it NOT be him, hur hur" gag.

Or, heck, have it be one of Banner's old split personalities that Sampson had in cold storage that he didn't tell anyone about.



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Originally Posted by NinjaPirate View Post
The sad thing is, there was absolutely no good reason Rulk couldn't have been written to be Leonard Samson.

Except they wanted to pull the "we're gonna fool the readers by implying it was Sampson and the have it NOT be him, hur hur" gag.

Or, heck, have it be one of Banner's old split personalities that Sampson had in cold storage that he didn't tell anyone about.



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what really had me scratching my head was that Rulk had no mustache.
Yet when he reverted to Ross, it grew back.
It has been repeatedly shown that whatever state Banner's hair is in when he changes into Hulk, ol Greenskin has that state of hair.

I know, it's a wierd thing to nit-pick out of the whole story, but it still bothers me.


 

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what really had me scratching my head was that Rulk had no mustache.
Yet when he reverted to Ross, it grew back.
It has been repeatedly shown that whatever state Banner's hair is in when he changes into Hulk, ol Greenskin has that state of hair.

I know, it's a wierd thing to nit-pick out of the whole story, but it still bothers me.
Red Hulk also has total control over hte amount and placement of his body hair, so he just hides his 'stache until he's ready to turn back into General Ross. It makes it harder to know it was him.

Either that or it's a gaping plot hole left by the fact that Red Hulk's identity was pulled entirely out of the writers' ***es.


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Red Hulk also has total control over hte amount and placement of his body hair, so he just hides his 'stache until he's ready to turn back into General Ross. It makes it harder to know it was him.

Either that or it's a gaping plot hole left by the fact that Red Hulk's identity was pulled entirely out of the writers' ***es.
i'd tend to guess the latter all things considered.


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i once more state my astonishment that anyone is still shelling out cash for that trainwreck of a storyline, or that anyone even cares at this point.


 

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Originally Posted by BlackArachnia View Post
The article I was reading did not confirm that, and I could not find a verification yet, so I was not going to say that.


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Well, this largely falls on the shoulders of Jeph Loeb. And as much as I despised the whole Red Hulk saga and the really poor writing of him punching out the Watcher and Thor and so on, I have to have some sympathy for the guy.

He really didn't stop writing comics after the death of his son, and I think it really shows here. Red Hulk reads like the ultimate power fantasy; he can take down anyone, he outthinks everyone, he's just unstoppable. I'm no psychologist, but I can see someone who's lost a child writing a character that never loses.

At least they've brought it to an end (even if the two-year-in-the-building fight between Hulk and Skaar ended in a panel for no reason I thought was good), and we now have the 'Hulk Family'. Whittle it back to Betty, Bruce and Skaar (so long as they ditch the emo attitude) and I'll be starting to be okay with it.


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Where does his 'stash go when he's Red Hulk?

And why does it return when he reverts?


 

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Where does his 'stash go when he's Red Hulk?

And why does it return when he reverts?
The 'Stash goes inside his lip to brush his teeth while he levels mountains and hurls people to other planets.


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Coming up next in the Marvel U:

The new Hobgoblin is really Aunt May!
Frank Castles wife faked her death, and has really been the Kingpins Mistress all these years!
Bruce Banner becoming the Hulk wasn't actually because of the Gamma Radiation, but because he was chosen by the mystical avatar of Rage!
Northstar was never REALLY gay, he just pretended to be in order to uncover the gay conspiracy under orders of Nick Fury!
Spider-man? Pffft, [censored] Spider-Man!


 

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Coming up next in the Marvel U:

The new Hobgoblin is really Aunt May!
Frank Castles wife faked her death, and has really been the Kingpins Mistress all these years!
Bruce Banner becoming the Hulk wasn't actually because of the Gamma Radiation, but because he was chosen by the mystical avatar of Rage!
Northstar was never REALLY gay, he just pretended to be in order to uncover the gay conspiracy under orders of Nick Fury!
Spider-man? Pffft, [censored] Spider-Man!
OMG! LiquidX is Joe Quesada!!!!


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I was sticking my head in the sand and pretending that story didn't exist.

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Betty Ross, wow I know Leob wrote this but you know that Editor in Chief and now President of all Marvel Media, Joe Q who probably helped come up with the idea.

I mean Betty Ross Banner was killed by the Abomination to get at Bruce. Why would she be acting like a total evil being when she comes back? Would she not want her revenge on Igor?

It was her death that triggered Banner's fall from grace that helped get him booted and tricked off this planet.

Wait... sorry Logic. This is Joe Q's Marvel, an artist who is not a writer. My bad. It has to look cool and make no sense.


 

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Maybe Ross is just senile and plagued by guilt, and he's seeing his dead daughter in every female.

If it were Loeb, that's probably what I would go with.

Still, if enough internet people call this idea the worst they've ever heard, they'll spirit the notion away in another few issues.


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It's this sort of thing that keeps me from reading comics in their monthly forms.

I, too, was most confused about the disappearing mustache, especially since Marvel did a What If ...? collection a while back in which Ross became (the grey) Hulk, in which he retained his mustache when Hulking.

And despite all the stupidity apparently (I haven't read any of this stuff) surrounding the Red Hulk, I will say one thing for him: he's a very pretty shade of red.


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Originally Posted by Zikar View Post
Where does his 'stash go when he's Red Hulk?

And why does it return when he reverts?
The same place as everything else that disappears/reappears in the Marvel U..."An undisclosed extradimensional source". Like the hundreds of pounds of mass that Hulk gains in his transformations...


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Originally Posted by BlackArachnia View Post
The article I was reading did not confirm that, and I could not find a verification yet, so I was not going to say that.
Have the comic. Yeah, the Red She-Hulk is Betty Ross-Banner.



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