I hate every Praetorian
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Adumbrate,
Posted on: 2010-08-25 02:12 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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They are just as basic as anger, fear...|
Originally Posted by Golden Girl
Yes - because they're basic to being a human being.
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If faced with a choice between life and death, people will choose life. It's called self preservation and the system in Praetoria is such that self preservation is quite the hot topic. Whether you're on the dark side or the light (you figure out which is which. I can't tell a difference really) the struggle to stay alive is the main driver.
And don't tell me you're different. The only way you'd be different is when you are nowhere near human.
[CENTER][B]Radix malorum est cupiditas[/B][/CENTER]
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Wasn't he also considered a rebel and a crusader? I guess that made him a mart... oh wait.
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Originally Posted by Quinz
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thank you Quinz for expressing my thoughts since I did not have a way to accurately do so.
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Basically it's a choice between living in a Lawful Evil empire, or face certain death at the hands of giant monster mutant things. I guess that's not much of a choice.
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Originally Posted by Fried Radicals
If faced with a choice between life and death, people will choose life. It's called self preservation and the system in Praetoria is such that self preservation is quite the hot topic. Whether you're on the dark side or the light (you figure out which is which. I can't tell a difference really) the struggle to stay alive is the main driver.
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Primal Earth is bringing choice to Praetoria |
Originally Posted by Coyote_Seven
Basically it's a choice between living in a Lawful Evil empire, or face certain death at the hands of giant monster mutant things. I guess that's not much of a choice.
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@Golden Girl
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And all Praetorians know is that some crazy guys called Arachnos and Longbow are invading. Well 'Normal' ones. (Normal as in those within the norm, not normal as in your backwards logic.)
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Originally Posted by Golden Girl
Primal Earth is bringing choice to Praetoria
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Love and Compassion
Love and Compassion
Love and Compassion
Love and Compassion
Yeah. Pretty basic stuff, there. All that Compassion for their fellow man and all.
-Rachel-
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And all linked to dictatorships too.
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Originally Posted by Steampunkette
Love and Compassion
Love and Compassion Love and Compassion Love and Compassion Yeah. Pretty basic stuff, there. All that Compassion for their fellow man and all. |
@Golden Girl
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Exactly.|
Originally Posted by Coyote_Seven
Basically it's a choice between living in a Lawful Evil empire, or face certain death at the hands of giant monster mutant things. I guess that's not much of a choice.
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And where in either choice do you see Love and Compassion? I don't.
Cole shows neither (he fakes it, sure, it just isn't there) and the Resistance.. meh.. not so much as well. Love and Compassion would mean not making bombs out of people or even creatures (ghouls) for that matter.
People are selfish.
[CENTER][B]Radix malorum est cupiditas[/B][/CENTER]
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Except that last one, which is tied to several guerilla's in countries overthrowing governments. |
Originally Posted by Golden Girl
And all linked to dictatorships too.
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...Wait that reminds me!
Nah.
http://www.prisonexp.org/
So far as I'm aware Stanford isn't a Dictatorship... But i could be wrong..?
http://www.stanford.edu/
Hmm... NOPE!
-Rachel-
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Primal Earth is bringing to Praetoria what Primal Earth is real good at: War.|
Originally Posted by Golden Girl
Primal Earth is bringing choice to Praetoria
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Have you asked people if they wanted to be saved lately? Oh right.. they're hopped up on Enriche.. They have no choice, so it's okay to enforce the ways of Primal Earth onto them.
Right..
yah..
[CENTER][B]Radix malorum est cupiditas[/B][/CENTER]
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It's not enforcing - they're going to be given the freedom to choose how they want to live |
Originally Posted by Fried Radicals
Primal Earth is bringing to Praetoria what Primal Earth is real good at: War.
Have you asked people if they wanted to be saved lately? Oh right.. they're hopped up on Enriche.. They have no choice, so it's okay to enforce the ways of Primal Earth onto them. Right.. yah.. |
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The idea is linked to a dictatorship |
Originally Posted by Steampunkette
http://www.prisonexp.org/
So far as I'm aware Stanford isn't a Dictatorship... But i could be wrong..? |
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Or standard imprisonment methods.
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Originally Posted by Golden Girl
The idea is linked to a dictatorship
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Oh, in this case I think we'd do better with a few American examples.|
Originally Posted by Steampunkette
Love and Compassion
Love and Compassion Love and Compassion Love and Compassion Yeah. Pretty basic stuff, there. All that Compassion for their fellow man and all. -Rachel- |
"Love and compassion" indeed. Historically, people preaching such things tend not to get the wrong kind of attention.
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For a dictatorship, yes |
Originally Posted by Quinz
Or standard imprisonment methods.
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Uhuh.|
Originally Posted by Golden Girl
It's not enforcing - they're going to be given the freedom to choose how they want to live
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And just how are you going to act towards them if after a grisly war where the current way of life is forced out the door, the people actually turn around and want to maintain their utopia as it is?
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That's it, I quit, but I leave you all with this. |
Originally Posted by Golden Girl
For a dictatorship, yes
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http://pic.phyrefile.com/j/ja/jayhaw...Kat_Lady04.jpg
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It'd be morally wrong to allow them to continue with a dictatorship.
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Originally Posted by Fried Radicals
Uhuh.
And just how are you going to act towards them if after a grisly war where the current way of life is forced out the door, the people actually turn around and want to maintain their utopia as it is? |
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So what have you done today to remove Kim Jong-il from power?
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Originally Posted by Golden Girl
It'd be morally wrong to allow them to continue with a dictatorship.
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So you'd take away their free choice to live like that?|
Originally Posted by Golden Girl
It'd be morally wrong to allow them to continue with a dictatorship.
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How are you different from Cole then?
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So are people finally getting that Golden Girl has no understanding of what she's saying, and is just mindlessly repeating a mantra or devising short snarky comments which -support- her mantra?
The fact that a Democracy (The only MORAL form of government) performs standard imprisonment methods and has, in the past, tortured people consistently is swept under the rug of "Only Dictatorships do it"
South Africa, a nation ruled through Parlimentary (I.E. Democratic) methods complete with a Prime Minister is declared a Dictatorship...
Communist = Soviet, even though they have different meanings.
Everything is Black and White if you support the evil side you're evil unless you're a Warden because even though you're supporting the Crusaders you're a special exception.
She has only blind faith in her cause and attempts at witty repartee which make her look like a stroke victim with a facial tick...
Ignore her, folks. it's the only way she'll be stopped.
-Rachel-
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That must mean that, shockingly, loyalists are serving an immoral government |
Originally Posted by Steampunkette
Democracy (The only MORAL form of government)
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